Butthurt There's a nigger and gay sex in Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2!

[uajii]

In case people don't know, the Mali "empire" is the one that made literal sand castles located all the way to west Africa. The highly skilled doctor and engineer from this clearly advanced sand Wakanda traveled across the entire Sahara desert, length wise, ferried himself across the Mediterranean, probably landed somewhere in Italy and made a long trek in some remote northern Slavic country dominated by a religion hostile to his own so he could do some kind of business in a city that barely even allowed Jews to do the same.

Modern people don't realize this, but some people traveled fairly long distances in middle ages. Europeans regularly went on pilgrimages to Jerusalem. It's documented that three Ethiopian monks traveled to Council of Constance in 1415. Of course they were Christians, so they actually had a reason to go there, but going from Ethiopia to Constance is longer distance than from Mali to Kuttenberg. And if this Musa guy is real, he's not living in Bohemia. He's part of Sigismund's retinue. Sigismund was the King of Hungary and Croatia, therefore he had an access to Mediterranean ports, which makes it a little more believable. Employing a Muslim doctor could make sense, since he probably would have more medical knowledge than European bloodletters. Sankoré University in Mali was well regarded center of learning.
I still don't think there are any documented cases of any people from Mali being in Hungary at this time. So they kinda did what Josh Sawyer did with his black guy in Pentiment. Very unlikely presence, but not impossible.

Also, we do have one documented case of black people in Bohemia in 1467, when a Bohemian nobleman received two blacks from the King of Portugal, but of course that was after Portugal established their colonies in Sub-saharan Africa.

When we took our leave, the king spoke very kindly to Lord Lev, first by himself and then through an interpreter. He said to him these words: "I see that you come from a very distinguished family, and therefore I beg you to do our kingom the honour of asking for any gift you desire. It will be granted to you." When our lord heard this, he respectfully thanked him for the honour and favour bestowed upon him, and asked the king to give him two Moors. The king's brother was present, and when he heard this request he burst into laughter and said: "What you ask, my friend, is of no value. Ask for something greater and more honorable than these Moors. But if you desire them so much, please accept this third gift from me, a monkey, and return to your homeland, thus exquisitely endowed! Evidently," he asked, "you have neither Moors nor monkeys in your country, that you ask for them above all other things?
And when Lord Lev answered that they were seldom seen in our country, the duke said: "But there is an abundance of such things in our country. Here the king, my brother, has three cities in Africa, and sends an army into that country every year. And from no such expedition, even a smaller one, do they return empty-handed, but bring with them a hundred thousand or more Moors of all ages and sexes. And all that is brought is then sold like cattle. For such is the custom here, that people from other countries come to the Moors market and buy them up. And the king profits more from the sale of them than from the taxes of the whole kingdom. For even a small black man is worth twelve or thirteen gold pieces of Portuguese money; but a larger one is of course much more expensive." And they have a custom, that if anyone gets a strong and hard-working Moor, he baptizes him, and does not sell him, unless he gives him to a friend as a gift. But as long as the Moor is not baptized, he is free to sell him at will.

(AI translated from: Václav Šašek of Bířkov - Diary of Travels of Lord Lev of Rožmitál from Bohemia to the Edge of the World, 1467)

 

[Hace El Oso]

Modern people don't realize this, but some people traveled fairly long distances in middle ages. Europeans regularly went on pilgrimages to Jerusalem. It's documented that three Ethiopian monks traveled to Council of Constance in 1415. Of course they were Christians, so they actually had a reason to go there, but going from Ethiopia to Constance is longer distance than from Mali to Kuttenberg. And if this Musa guy is real, he's not living in Bohemia. He's part of Sigismund's retinue. Sigismund was the King of Hungary and Croatia, therefore he had an access to Mediterranean ports, which makes it a little more believable. Employing a Muslim doctor could make sense, since he probably would have more medical knowledge than European bloodletters. Sankoré University in Mali was well regarded center of learning.
I still don't think there are any documented cases of any people from Mali being in Hungary at this time. So they kinda did what Josh Sawyer did with his black guy in Pentiment. Very unlikely presence, but not impossible.

And he should have been a subject of the Turks or, if closer to the Islamic golden age, a Saracen, a thousand, a million, ten million times over before a sub-Saharan black. But that isn’t the fashion of the moment.

The only sub Saharan blacks in Europe would be oddities, objects of courtly vanity, exported like animals from the barely-explored Leopoldlands in Africa, nothing more. I’m not interested in listening to kids and outsiders argue against this, it was still true within living memory.

P.S. And also, when someone from the Middle Ages talks about ‘black’ people, they invariably mean tanned people like Greeks.

 

[Oreshnik Missile]

 

[MerchantKing]

Are you goys looking forward to KANGDOOM COOM II: WE WUZ AN SHEEEIT?

 

[normie]

Are you goys looking forward to KANGDOOM COOM II: WE WUZ AN SHEEEIT?

can you make this for even smaller ants?

 

[Fargus]

half of the text is too small and fucked up with compression artifacts

 

[Larianshill]

I maintain that the nigger is not real

 

[notpl]

I maintain that the nigger is not real

You are utterly delusional if you think anyone made fakes this convincing. This is weapons-grade "beyond good and evil 2 is still in development and it's going to be great!"-level cope. It's real.

 

[Yosharian]

If the sequel is compromised, it'll sell decently but all the good will built up will crumble away and the guy will be relentlessly mocked for selling out right around the same time that tolerance for subversion and performative tokenism is at an all time low.

You are seriously delusional if you think a single black NPC is going to ruin the 'good will', or if you think the game is 'compromised' by it.

Like seriously get some fucking perspective. Almost nobody gives a shit. Hell I'd say most Codexers probably don't give a shit and will play it and love it regardless. Yeah you'll all spam this thread with your racial slurs and your sad collection of Nazi poster memorabilia for a few weeks. Meanwhile you'll purchase the deluxe edition and play it non-stop with the curtains closed while whispering to yourself 'ba-baka D Vavra, it's not like I love your game or anything...'

 

[cvv]

Almost nobody gives a shit. Hell I'd say most Codexers probably don't give a shit and will play it and love it regardless.

I'll play it and almost certainly love it but I do give a shit. I hate it because:

1. It's the most blatant, embarrassing case of tokenism I've ever seen
2. From a studio that almost ruined its mainstream reputation by refusing to stoop to tokenism 7 years ago
3. It's extremely inauthentic in a game that's built its brand on historical authenticity.
4. Vavra has spent the last 10 years being all tough and unyielding against the woke mob, only to cave in an era when bending the knee is not only necessary anymore but when the opposite is starting to be actually cool

It's not just about some random dindu in a videogame (that you can probably kill and rob as soon as you meet him), there's way more to it.

 

[Harthwain]

You are seriously delusional if you think a single black NPC is going to ruin the 'good will', or if you think the game is 'compromised' by it.

My guess is that since Vavra lost control (he sold the studio, if I am not mistaken) somebody thought the game needs some diversity and inclusivity. It may be a token NPC and the majority of players may not be that bothered by it (as there are woke games that are way more insufferable when it comes to being woke), but it certainly looks like a slippery slope for the next game of the studio and that's sad, especially when you compare the whole situation to Vavra telling people there were no blacks in medieval Bohemia and they should make their own game.

 

[Yosharian]

You are seriously delusional if you think a single black NPC is going to ruin the 'good will', or if you think the game is 'compromised' by it.

My guess is that since Vavra lost control (he sold the studio, if I am not mistaken) somebody thought the game needs some diversity and inclusivity. It may be a token NPC and the majority of players may not be that bothered by it (as there are woke games that are way more insufferable when it comes to being woke), but it certainly looks like a slippery slope for the next game of the studio and that's sad, especially when you compare the whole situation to Vavra telling people there were no blacks in medieval Bohemia and they should make their own game.

This is what always happens with successful studios though. Just look at CDPR. Used to be based (collecting cards in Witcher 1 lmao), now their latest game will be pushing fourth wave feminism into a medieval fantasy game, and the MC will be fighting the patriarchy with a Botox + lip-filler face.

Just enjoy the decent games while they last and then stop buying from them and move on once the rot has taken over. Don't try to make developers into your heroes. They are entertainers selling you a product.

 

[Lord_Potato]

4. Vavra has spent the last 10 years being all tough and unyielding against the woke mob, only to cave in an era when bending the knee is not only necessary anymore but when the opposite is starting to be actually cool

Maybe he simply likes to sail against the wind? Whatever the Zeitgeist is at the time when he releases his game, he's against it! A true contrarian edgelord.

The man's a fucking legend.

 

[Stavrophore]

We have enough niggers in real life, why vavra have to torment us? He betrayed us.

 

[Lord_Potato]

We have enough niggers in real life, why vavra have to torment us? He betrayed us.

We do? I barely see any black people in Poland. Last time I spoke to one was most likely when I studied abroad, like 18 years ago.

 

[Beowulf]

I maintain that the nigger is not real

The niggers are real and can hurt you. Especially the doctors.

 

[Konjad]

We have enough niggers in real life, why vavra have to torment us? He betrayed us.

We do? I barely see any black people in Poland. Last time I spoke to one was most likely when I studied abroad, like 18 years ago.

Just order Uber Eats.

 

[Lord_Potato]

We have enough niggers in real life, why vavra have to torment us? He betrayed us.

We do? I barely see any black people in Poland. Last time I spoke to one was most likely when I studied abroad, like 18 years ago.

Just order Uber Eats.

I regularly order food online, but people who bring it mostly look like Indians and Pakistanis. Sometimes also Ukrainians do these delivery jobs. I literally never saw a black delivery dude.

 

[Konjad]

We have enough niggers in real life, why vavra have to torment us? He betrayed us.

We do? I barely see any black people in Poland. Last time I spoke to one was most likely when I studied abroad, like 18 years ago.

Just order Uber Eats.

I regularly order food online, but people who bring it mostly look like Indians and Pakistanis. Sometimes also Ukrainians do these delivery jobs. I literally never saw a black delivery dude.

All indians and Pakis must go to Warsaw then. Thank dog.

 

[Maxie]

all the niggers were busy lecturing wawra on the richness of their jigaboo culture so that kcd2 can be finally a realistic representation of the middle ages

 

[NecroLord]

I maintain that the nigger is not real

The niggers are real and can hurt you. Especially the doctors.

Never relax.

 

[Jenkem]

sad to see that czechs are becoming more pozzed, they are playing into nato's hands and it's awfully sad. they are just poland 2.0 now

 

[Stavrophore]

sad to see that czechs are becoming more pozzed, they are playing into nato's hands and it's awfully sad. they are just poland 2.0 now

More like Poland becoming czechs, czechs were always more pozzed than Poland.

 

[Beowulf]

Yes, the evil NATO warmongers ordered Vavra to include more token people of colour in his game.
Truly, Vatnik's minds in action are a wonder to behold.

 

[Jenkem]

glad my gpu is old or else I would have pre-ordered this shit now I'll never get another warhorse game again or imbibe in anything czech.
just threw my dvorak CDs in the trash

*spits*