Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[FeelTheRads]

And they say TB fans are crazy.

Well, here goes half of the funding.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

Codex wouldn't have been butthurt if RTwP won, it would've been as expected (well, I certainly expected it to win by a landslide), and would conclude with a few pages of the usual snarky grumbling about decline and Biodrones ruining everything.

I certainly don't see any Codexer come even close to withdrawing their pledge over RTwP winning, like these babies are doing.

Mostly agree, there would have been many decline! posts/gifs/pictures but withdrawing pledges and/or threatening with Metacritic reviews revenge? I really doubt it.

Combat being crap never stopped Codex from loving any game if it delivered in other areas such as setting, writing, quest design, C&C, atmosphere etc. (Torment and Arcanum being among Codex favourites are more than enough proof of that), not to mention that a good chunk of Codex actually likes IE games (I mean other IE games besides Torment) while I reckon the vast majority of RTWP Torment backers have very limited to no experience with turn based games and are even more dismissive about it.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

PrimeJunta about 1 hour ago
I was hoping they'd pick RTwP just to see Hiver's subsequent meltdown. TB is clearly a better fit for the game though

IIRC Hiver said he even enjoyed playing Torment with a fighter class so that guy's wrong IMO.

 

[FeelTheRads]

 

[Longshanks]

I think most of us expected Torment to have RTWP combat, the only butthurt would have been about losing the poll war (though even this was expected), it would not have extended to trashing the game. Are we not backing P:E? Is not PST considered one of the holy trinity?

No, in this case the Codex really is the more balanced party. Scary, I know.

 

[DalekFlay]

https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/409100615126487040

Rami Markus Maunula ‏@rmmzx10h
@BrianFargo One of remake Kickstarters polled fans on whether to go turnbased or realtime and when fans said TB they went with RT anyway

Ahh, the illusion of choice.

David Gaider should offer a similar poll on the Bioware Social Whorehouse.

 

[Infinitron]

Those TB haters sure are smart. I wonder how many other people have stuff like this.

 

[Minttunator]

☆ dlux ☆ 3 minutes ago
Your decision doesn't seem very wise to me. Hopefully I am wrong and this decision does not eventually backfire on you, even ever so slightly. I wouldn't be surprised if many P:T fans (backers or not), who hate TB combat, write extremely negative reviews on metacritic because they feel betrayed. Revenge is known to be sweet.

From refund demands to passive aggressive threats... just keeps getting better and better!

Oh man, I remember that guy! :D

This person has also backed such turn-based games as Battle Worlds: Kronos, Wasteland 2 and Divinity: OS, among other things - you can't explain that! He was also active on the Eternity boards until he disagreed with some design decision (don't recall what) and left in a huff. Last I saw, he was starting drama on the Divinity forums - he's like an average Watch poster, passive-aggressive 24/7. Retards gonna retard, what can I say.

All in all, this is a major victory for the forces of incline and the butthurt has already been (and will continue to be) glorious. I hope smudboy makes a new video soon.

 

[Western]

Infinitron Someone should really break the news to the poor soul.

 

[AstroZombie]

Infinitron Someone should really break the news to the poor soul.

I disagree, the thought of this retard going into a fit of rage when he plays D:OS and discovers it has TB combat gives me great joy.

 

[Sensuki]

He was also active on the Eternity boards until he disagreed with some design decision (don't recall what)

No XP for kills.

 

[janjetina]

They should deny his refund request, since it is baseless.

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

I hope there won't be many refundretards.

 

[Sensuki]

I wonder how many other people have stuff like this.

More than this many. I just did a quick sweep.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Looks like cases of mindlessly slamming the Pledge button. OLOL I HAET TURN BAESD LET ME PLEDGE TO ABOUT 5 TB GAEMS>

 

[Sensuki]

Well, that backfired.

Sensuki
I like turn based combat and am looking foward to a turn-based Torment game - I even wrote that very clearly. I also backed many TB based games, isn't it obvious that I like TB combat? xD

I am however also sympathetic with the fans of P:T, who do not like TB combat at all. They bought the game because it was a RTwP infinity engine game and were hoping for an inifinity engine feel for the spiritual sequel. Which they will not really be getting. I can understand that many are upset about this.

Learn to read before you waste your time making a ridiculous list of "TB-Heretics" and adding even more fuel to the file. There is enough drama here as it is.

 

[hoverdog]

Well, that backfired.

Sensuki
I like turn based combat and am looking foward to a turn-based Torment game - I even wrote that very clearly. I also backed many TB based games, isn't it obvious that I like TB combat? xD

I am however also sympathetic with the fans of P:T, who do not like TB combat at all. They bought the game because it was a RTwP infinity engine game and were hoping for an inifinity engine feel for the spiritual sequel. Which they will not really be getting. I can understand that many are upset about this.

Learn to read before you waste your time making a ridiculous list of "TB-Heretics" and adding even more fuel to the file. There is enough drama here as it is.

I like TB, yet I am against it in Torment, because... some other people don't like it?

 

[Infinitron]

Sensuki FYI the developer of JA: Flashback is not the developer of BiA - that would be the dearly departed Coreplay.

 

[Sensuki]

There's more than one person saying that as well.

Sensuki FYI the developer of JA: Flashback is not the developer of BiA - that would be the dearly departed Coreplay.

Riiight I see. Back In Action =/= Brothers in Arms. I recall seeing someone say BiA in association with their name quite a bit.

 

[Longshanks]

Well, that backfired.

Sensuki
I like turn based combat and am looking foward to a turn-based Torment game - I even wrote that very clearly. I also backed many TB based games, isn't it obvious that I like TB combat? xD

I am however also sympathetic with the fans of P:T, who do not like TB combat at all. They bought the game because it was a RTwP infinity engine game and were hoping for an inifinity engine feel for the spiritual sequel. Which they will not really be getting. I can understand that many are upset about this.

Learn to read before you waste your time making a ridiculous list of "TB-Heretics" and adding even more fuel to the file. There is enough drama here as it is.

This could have been a valid point. If people pledged for Torment, having been led to believe that it would very much be in the vein of PST, with no mention that the combat system may differ, they'd have every right to be pissed. This was not the case. InXile clearly stated that they weren't certain what combat system would be used. Maybe some people didn't follow the Kickstarter closely enough or just assumed that RTWP would end up being chosen, but that's just tough luck really, they don't have a legitimate complaint.

 

[Sensuki]

That dlux guy just seems to have some issues.

He abandoned the Project Eternity forums never to return when Josh announced there would not be XP for kills. He has yet to ever log back into his profile.

And now he's acting the same regarding the Torment combat style. When I asked him about P:E on the Torment comments he stopped posting.

 

[LivingOne]

Bester said

Most people who voted TB don't even understand what it is, confusing it with rtwp.

Others just heard TB must be some RPG hardcore thing.



Neither of the two groups actually played a TB game.



A small part of those who voted actually played and understood the concept. Ridiculous.

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64...-ruin-torment-by-making-it-turn-based/page-14
He's still at it,eh...

 

[LivingOne]

That dlux guy just seems to have some issues.

He abandoned the Project Eternity forums never to return when Josh announced there would not be XP for kills. He has yet to ever log back into his profile.

And now he's acting the same regarding the Torment combat style. When I asked him about P:E on the Torment comments he stopped posting.

I might be mistaken but wasn't it for the stamina regen thing that he ragequitted?

"OMG its healtregen!!1!"

 

[Sensuki]

nah kills for XP. I PM'd him about it when he did.

 

[Ninjerk]

Which, in essence, makes him nostalgiafag doesn't it?