Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Thread

[vivec]

Not to piss on the parade MRY but Philetis on most part was just weird, not deep.

 

[hexer]

Greeks definitively aren't impressed

http://thegeeksociety.gr/torment-tides-of-numenera-review-en/

I can only assume that they are all members of Golden Dawn, because they're clearly based.

The Greeks recognized this modern Trojan horse from miles away..
one cannot hope to fool the ancient masters of false advertising

 

[MRY]

Not to piss n the parade MRY but Philetis on most part was just weird not deep.

FTFY. He's a pastiche of Kosh from Babylon 5, who was lame to begin with. A good third of his dialogue consists of random references to the Codex, the Numenera bestiary, and Passover. And yet, I still love him. I like the idea of a character who can remember only that there was an important question it had to answer, but now no longer knows the question, let alone its answer, and so just cycles through every random question to pose to others and every random trivium to offer as a response. (Incidentally, this is literally how I felt/behaved after getting a bad concussion as a kid, and so the notion of its having a hole in its mind that it's trying to "obscure through obscurity" has some grounding in my own experience.) I don't think it's deep, but the character has like 25 nodes or something in each encounter (if that). It's not supposed to be Dak'kon.

Of course, I built such a failsafe excuse into all my characters. For example, Inifere specifically says he was forced to eat and absorb the essence of bad emo poets so that if when people say he's overwrought and ridiculous, I can say, "Yes, yes, that's the whole point, learn to read," before going off to cry IRL.

 

[agris]

Rhin just joined my group, and in her first set of VO lines, I heard the actress pause to make sure the word she was reading was correct. Not a natural pause, but the type that happens accidentally when reading aloud.

 

[Roguey]

Well, Gavin is going to be lead for WL3...maybe therre's a reason.

It's good to see that all the heads responsible for Torment's mismanagement have been rolled. Fargo might make a big public showing about how proud he is of the team and their work, but his disappointment is reflected in his actions.

 

[Pirata Alma Negra]

Well, Gavin is going to be lead for WL3...maybe therre's a reason.

It's good to see that all the heads responsible for Torment's mismanagement have been rolled. Fargo might make a big public showing about how proud he is of the team and their work, but his disappointment is reflected in his actions.

But how will he be able to cut his own head? On a guillotine maybe.

just do not expect something as impressive as Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment or Witcher 3.

Lumping Twitcher 3 in with two great Infinity Engine games. Disgusting!

What was that? Codex's top list?

 

[Roguey]

Fairfax, Kevin Saunders was fired (as delicately as possible) ages ago, Adam Heine now works for the same place Kevin does, and Colin's looking for a job.

When the three leads for a troubled project have been axed, you know justice has been done.

 

[Sentinel]

Fairfax, Kevin Saunders was fired (as delicately as possible) ages ago, Adam Heine now works for the same place Kevin does, and Colin's looking for a job.

When the three leads for a troubled project have been axed, you know justice has been done.

How do you know this info? Any sauce? Specifically about Colin, idgaf about Kevin, fucking dumbass.

 

[Roguey]

How do you know this info? Any sauce? Specifically about Colin, idgaf about Kevin, fucking dumbass.

I was referencing you, I figured he was preemptively laid off, same as Adam. They knew what their pre-release projections looked like.

 

[Tigranes]

Not to piss n the parade MRY but Philetis on most part was just weird not deep.

FTFY. He's a pastiche of Kosh from Babylon 5, who was lame to begin with. A good third of his dialogue consists of random references to the Codex, the Numenera bestiary, and Passover. And yet, I still love him. I like the idea of a character who can remember only that there was an important question it had to answer, but now no longer knows the question, let alone its answer, and so just cycles through every random question to pose to others and every random trivium to offer as a response. (Incidentally, this is literally how I felt/behaved after getting a bad concussion as a kid, and so the notion of its having a hole in its mind that it's trying to "obscure through obscurity" has some grounding in my own experience.) I don't think it's deep, but the character has like 25 nodes or something in each encounter (if that). It's not supposed to be Dak'kon.

Of course, I built such a failsafe excuse into all my characters. For example, Inifere specifically says he was forced to eat and absorb the essence of bad emo poets so that if when people say he's overwrought and ridiculous, I can say, "Yes, yes, that's the whole point, learn to read," before going off to cry IRL.

I liked Philetis, I thought Inifere was awful. The difference being that Philetis has a very nice and basic conceit (which you describe), so that he isn't dependent wholly on the quality of the delivery; whereas Inifere's overwrought rambling is true to his conceit, but that conceit is equally, well, emo.

I think, actually, a big part of why Inifere felt so Evanescence was because of the context: the CHIIIILDREN OF THE EEEEENDLESS GAAAAATE who have no personality or philosophy and are your worst kind of run of the mill demon abyss cult worshipper dudes, and then here at the heart of the emo you find the lone Inifere. If he was found at Circus Minor it might be different.

 

[Rev]

It's good to see that all the heads responsible for Torment's mismanagement have been rolled. Fargo might make a big public showing about how proud he is of the team and their work, but his disappointment is reflected in his actions.

Wait, McComb is not at inXile anymore? Wasn't he in the pitch video of WL3 on Fig as the lead writer for the game or something like that?

 

[Pirata Alma Negra]

That isn't going to happen, without claiming some twisted heritage how will Fargo squeeze the next millions?

 

[Chris Avelltwo]

Well, Gavin is going to be lead for WL3...maybe therre's a reason.

It's good to see that all the heads responsible for Torment's mismanagement have been rolled. Fargo might make a big public showing about how proud he is of the team and their work, but his disappointment is reflected in his actions.

But Gavin was part of the Torment team... also, he has a hyphenated last name.

 

[Roguey]

Wait, McComb is not at inXile anymore? Wasn't he in the pitch video of WL3 on Fig as the lead writer for the game or something like that?

Yeah he was there, but that Gavin guy is the lead writer now and George Ziets is the lead designer. Fargo promoting the heroes, dropping the zeros.

 

[Fairfax]

Fairfax, Kevin Saunders was fired (as delicately as possible) ages ago, Adam Heine now works for the same place Kevin does, and Colin's looking for a job.

When the three leads for a troubled project have been axed, you know justice has been done.

Kevin probably had a falling out with Fargo, not necessarily justice. Adam could be what you think or simply costs+logistics. I didn't know about Colin, though. I thought he was going to work on WL3 as well?

 

[Roguey]

Kevin probably had a falling out with Fargo, not necessarily justice. Adam could be what you think or simply costs+logistics. I didn't know about Colin, though. I thought he was going to work on WL3 as well?

Well the guy cracked a joke about needing to look for a job on February 27 so I guess plans changed.

 

[Lhynn]

Guys... what if, and listen to me here. What IF fargo actually wants to make good games BUT he hired people out of good faith and those people were evil SJWs that ruined what could have been great games!

Spoiler

 

[TT1]

Question: if Planescape Torment would have an succesor but not in Planescape world (due to licence), what setting would be the most appropriate beside Numenera?

Brazil, 2017

 

[ga♥]

Wait, McComb is not at inXile anymore? Wasn't he in the pitch video of WL3 on Fig as the lead writer for the game or something like that?

Yeah he was there, but that Gavin guy is the lead writer now and George Ziets is the lead designer. Fargo promoting the heroes, dropping the zeros.

It was already discussed here about Saunders and Heine but the source on McComb?

 

[MRY]

I liked Philetis, I thought Inifere was awful. The difference being that Philetis has a very nice and basic conceit (which you describe), so that he isn't dependent wholly on the quality of the delivery; whereas Inifere's overwrought rambling is true to his conceit, but that conceit is equally, well, emo.

I think, actually, a big part of why Inifere felt so Evanescence was because of the context: the CHIIIILDREN OF THE EEEEENDLESS GAAAAATE who have no personality or philosophy and are your worst kind of run of the mill demon abyss cult worshipper dudes, and then here at the heart of the emo you find the lone Inifere. If he was found at Circus Minor it might be different.

Can't you even read? He ate emo poets!

:sob:

 

[MRY]

Kevin probably had a falling out with Fargo, not necessarily justice. Adam could be what you think or simply costs+logistics. I didn't know about Colin, though. I thought he was going to work on WL3 as well?

Well the guy cracked a joke about needing to look for a job on February 27 so I guess plans changed.

This is such a preposterous deception, it is only because all skill checks with TTON pass that you fooled anyone. Here is the Tweet:

Yes. Colin left inXile because Gavin bullied him too much.

I saw Colin last night at the launch party, where he gave a lovely speech about the project and talked about the many more he's looking forward to doing at inXile.

It simply boggles my mind to see someone trying to do a victory dance on Kevin Saunders leaving inXile, but so it goes.

 

[Fairfax]

Kevin probably had a falling out with Fargo, not necessarily justice. Adam could be what you think or simply costs+logistics. I didn't know about Colin, though. I thought he was going to work on WL3 as well?

Well the guy cracked a joke about needing to look for a job on February 27 so I guess plans changed.

This is such a preposterous deception, it is only because all skill checks with TTON pass that you fooled anyone. Here is the Tweet:

Yes. Colin left inXile because Gavin bullied him too much.

I saw Colin last night at the launch party, where he gave a lovely speech about the project and talked about the many more he's looking forward to doing at inXile.

It simply boggles my mind to see someone trying to do a victory dance on Kevin Saunders leaving inXile, but so it goes.

I think Roguey was talking about a comment during the GDC panel, someone else mentioned it as well.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

People jumping to conclusions based on absolutely nothing. Well I never.

 

[hexer]

I think Colin's much better at writing game settings than game plots..
Some of his previous work such as Dragon Mountain (ADnD) and San Francisco (Fallout 2) felt overly simplistic.
The potential was there but nothing came out of it.
On the other hand Birthright campaign setting and his Planescape sourcebooks were pretty good.

 

[MrBuzzKill]

Can't you even read? He ate emo poets!
:sob:

I thought he was going mad because of the endless harassment of the Children/ hiding from the sorrow in such a fucked up place. Anyway I didn't think the character was "emo" at all, rather an unstable immortal guy with a predilection for poetry stuck between Scylla and Charybdis.

As for the Dalad, they're

Spoiler

the race that originally researched and made (practical use of?) the Tides, and possibly the race that created the Sorrow as well. It's revealed in one of the 2 last meres.

I believe that's the Tabaht, and if so, they are the same ones who built that construct (at least, I think so).,

Spoiler

The Tabaht were specifically referred to by the Changing god as nothing more than abhumans that were quite good at scavenging, finding the Underspine that gave them tidal powers. The Underspine itself was originally made by the Dalad.
http://numenera.gamepedia.com/The_Changing_God

Btw, was watching a Scary Door compilation yesterday and realized the game reminds me of it a lot. :D