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Golden Doggies are now actually gold.

e: First they had trouble with units dropping attack orders, now I can't keep my fucking wizards from going into melee for some reason. :lol:
 

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Any idea why if i set textures to ultra, my laptop becomes a vulcano while at high it has decent temperatures? I thought it was caused by shadows, lights and so on...
 

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I didn't have more than 20 minutes to play today, but it looks like they added some aggressive LoD culling to the map view. I now get 100+ FPS on the world map. Maybe it gets worse with more revealed? Not sure, but it's a lot better than what it was prepatch. Doesn't look like anything about that was in the patch notes.
 

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The AI being able to replenish its garrisons immediately is also bullshit of the highest order that makes sieges an accosting drag.
 

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I actually forgot it's out yesterday huh. Uninstalling WH2 and now I need to wat 20 hours to get WH3. Woe is 3rd world internet
 

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I'd say sieges as a whole are a huge problem and beyond tedious, not only the towers.
Yeah. I decided to play N'kari, and sieges and settlements are just dreadful, even when you can skip most of it by just running fast.

The AI being able to replenish its garrisons immediately is also bullshit of the highest order that makes sieges an accosting drag.
I think that's just the AI's replenishment bonus kicking in, plus iirc the ai replenishes twice per turn.
 

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Oxyotl is really fun now, your start position is pretty safe and you can go aaaaanywhere you like.
 

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I think that's just the AI's replenishment bonus kicking in, plus iirc the ai replenishes twice per turn.
It's actually not. There are two scenarios in which the AI fully replenishes its garrisons immediately - if you are besieging a settlement and *another* army attacks you, dragging the garrison into the fight, and when the AI takes over a city. In the first case, all the units that belong to the garrison which are completely wiped out will replenish at the end of the turn (i.e. before your turn starts, so there's nothing you can do about it) and in the second case the AI just starts out with a fresh garrison every time they take over a city.
 

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I played for an hour last night and was pleasantly surprised by the game's performance.

The AI in a small siege also did some cheeky tricks that surprised me but until I see a proper mid/late game siege in a walled settlement I won't count my chickens.
 

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I actually forgot it's out yesterday huh. Uninstalling WH2 and now I need to wat 20 hours to get WH3. Woe is 3rd world internet

Have you tried setting up a personal hotspot from your phone to share with your PC ? I'm in the countryside atm and even with shitty 4G it multiplied my dl speed by 5 (with home netwrk it would have take me 24h to dl TWW3!)
 

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I actually forgot it's out yesterday huh. Uninstalling WH2 and now I need to wat 20 hours to get WH3. Woe is 3rd world internet

Have you tried setting up a personal hotspot from your phone to share with your PC ? I'm in the countryside atm and even with shitty 4G it multiplied my dl speed by 5 (with home netwrk it would have take me 24h to dl TWW3!)

Mobile is faster, but there are fixed quota and its giga expensive. It's like 9 USD per 50GB. I ain't paying 18 dollar for faster download.
 
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Dark Elves report:

So, slaves are weird. You make a ton of money by keeping your slave count above 500 or so. This makes sure that all your buildings produce around 50-75% more cash, which gives you a really good economy. Having more slaves doesn't really do much, and in fact can be detrimental. -2 public order for -5% construction cost and -10% construction time is simply a BAD deal. Your late game potential is reduced but you have a massively better early and midgame so long as you can expand and it's a very smooth ride. You might have the best overall income in the game now, honestly. Can't underestimate getting 700 gold from your basic spammable Tier-3 industry building, where other races take like 20 turns to pay off the build cost you're making bank immediately. Also one benefit of slave bonuses not mattering is that you no longer have to beeline for that single late -15% slave decline rate tech and can pick up all the nice small other goodies at early levels. Overall I don't think slaves are really "nerfed", just different, and if anything buffed if you are conquering quickly. I wish the global slave bonuses were buffed a bit though.

Black Arks are totally OP, the more you get the sooner you quicker you dominate everyone. It's kind of like skaven now in that you just shoot to the end of the unit tech tree and can hire whatever you like from around turn 15. You'll be #1 faction strength easily which makes it very rare to be attacked (though you'll have to un-ally Malekith if you want to avoid him attacking literally everyone because he thinks you'll help him). Speaking of Malekith he's useless and never expanded past his starting province and is at war with all his neighbors but me now. Great job. CA did fix Black Arks being able to hire level 9 units (in WH2 they counted their +recruit rank bonuses twice, both as something being recruited from and as the recruiter), which is a minor drawback. Also I'm not sure what they did but replenishment from black arks seems to be buffed. I think you get full replenishment including all replenishment bonuses in foreign territories as long as the black ark is in replenishment mode

Confederations seem impossible without cheesing, Malekith never even came close even when he had literally no army, but at least for Dark Elves I don't think you even really want them. With slave bonuses gone there's no huge benefit to getting new Dark Elf lords. Malekith has some OK faction-wide buffs but for the most part a Fire supreme sorceress on a dragon (dragons fix their stats to make them good combat characters, and you want a good caster lord because sorceress heroes go on your black arks) or a Beastmaster (+8 MA/MD to monsters if you want to create the ultimate doomstack) tend to be your best lords, and they can get names of power. Slightly better melee combat or their specific unit buffs that legendary lords bring don't really outweight these perks.

I've been running mostly shielded Darkshard armies w/ 4 artillery so far (Malus gets shades because he's my best boy). They are almost free on black arks and won't break the bank if you summon a normal lord to run inward and do some land battles with the army. Don't really need anything stronger at the moment since I'm only at turn 35 and AI armies are kind of crap, and I have caster heroes + the improved dark ark AoE abilities. Once the dark arks get the full blue line they'll have enough -upkeep reduction that I can spam the truly impressive armies. Funniest battle so far was vs. Alith Anar who came with a 90% archer stack, my darkshards just sat in trees until they wasted their ammo while my lord spammed line attacks on them.
 
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I actually forgot it's out yesterday huh. Uninstalling WH2 and now I need to wat 20 hours to get WH3. Woe is 3rd world internet

Have you tried setting up a personal hotspot from your phone to share with your PC ? I'm in the countryside atm and even with shitty 4G it multiplied my dl speed by 5 (with home netwrk it would have take me 24h to dl TWW3!)

Mobile is faster, but there are fixed quota and its giga expensive. It's like 9 USD per 50GB. I ain't paying 18 dollar for faster download.
It's crazy, I wonder in what country you have such expensive GBs. I pay 10e a month for 80Gb with unlimited phonecalls & text messages to french number wherever in the EU.
 

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I actually forgot it's out yesterday huh. Uninstalling WH2 and now I need to wat 20 hours to get WH3. Woe is 3rd world internet

Have you tried setting up a personal hotspot from your phone to share with your PC ? I'm in the countryside atm and even with shitty 4G it multiplied my dl speed by 5 (with home netwrk it would have take me 24h to dl TWW3!)

Mobile is faster, but there are fixed quota and its giga expensive. It's like 9 USD per 50GB. I ain't paying 18 dollar for faster download.
It's crazy, I wonder in what country you have such expensive GBs. I pay 10e a month for 80Gb with unlimited phonecalls & text messages to french number wherever in the EU.

In-dog-nesia :negative:

On the other hand for food I can spend like 2 USD to get a full nutrious meal. If with meat its probably 3 USD per day.
 

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I actually forgot it's out yesterday huh. Uninstalling WH2 and now I need to wat 20 hours to get WH3. Woe is 3rd world internet

Have you tried setting up a personal hotspot from your phone to share with your PC ? I'm in the countryside atm and even with shitty 4G it multiplied my dl speed by 5 (with home netwrk it would have take me 24h to dl TWW3!)

Mobile is faster, but there are fixed quota and its giga expensive. It's like 9 USD per 50GB. I ain't paying 18 dollar for faster download.
It's crazy, I wonder in what country you have such expensive GBs. I pay 10e a month for 80Gb with unlimited phonecalls & text messages to french number wherever in the EU.

In-dog-nesia :negative:

On the other hand for food I can spend like 2 USD to get a full nutrious meal. If with meat its probably 3 USD per day.
Good for you I'd prefer cheap food over cheap internet.
 

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I've been trying out Azazel's campaign in the RoC map and imo the WoC rework isn't bad. It isn't bad because the unit upgrade mechanic makes sense and they added a second resource (souls) to worry about, which immediately adds another dimension to the campaign map. Yeah, they stole the unit upgrades from the Amazons in Troy, but I don't care. You are heavily incentivized to go into Cathay as Azazel and I did that, but I'm starting to have second thoughts because all you do is siege battles. Which is bad due to two things (besides sieges being shit in general). First of all, you can't rely on auto-resolve at all because even decisive victories decimate like half your army and it gets worse from there. You can't afford to wait turns for attrition (or replenishment after a siege) deep in enemy territory, so you are forced to manually fight each one as soon as possible. And second of all, an all-melee army like Azazel's (and WoC in general) are surprise, surprise, shit at sieges until they get monstrous units. So I've invested heavily in magic to off-set that and I hate the fact I have to rely on magic so much in every campaign in this damn game. This has officially become Total Spellcasting. The units are there to simply buy time for your spell cooldowns. Also, I'm starting to hate automatic garrisons in these nu-Total Wars. If settlements didn't have free garrisons, we wouldn't be besieging them every turn and it will do wonders for the pacing. Even if by some miracle you get an interesting siege, it still takes like half an hour or more for each one. Needing that much time for sieges which aren't interesting is soulcrushing. CA's main priority now should be finding a way to make sieges not tedious, or at least minimize the tediousness as much as possible.
 

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Those are random spawns in the Southern Chaos Wastes.
As far as I know, those ridiculous stacks are an unintended side effect from Oxyotl's visions of the old ones.

So because this one asshole exists everyone gets to deal with random chaos stacks? Fun.

I think it only happens when the player is Oxyotl. I think Fedora Master is playing as Oxyotl?
 

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