Tyranny + Bastard's Wound Expansion Thread

[roshan]

LOL WTF. You can gain points in a skill by selecting it in dialogue. Now we need to grind dialogue in order to gain skill points??? First they forced people to quest grind in Pillars of Shitternity, now they want to force players into dialogue grinding too?

Good thing the game is easy and skills don't matter lol/lmao

It's impossible to miss requirement for a check after the first area.

LOL so the systems don't suck because they are completely superfluous. Makes sense.... in an alternate reality, perhaps.

 

[Excidium II]

LOL WTF. You can gain points in a skill by selecting it in dialogue. Now we need to grind dialogue in order to gain skill points??? First they forced people to quest grind in Pillars of Shitternity, now they want to force players into dialogue grinding too?

Good thing the game is easy and skills don't matter lol/lmao

It's impossible to miss requirement for a check after the first area.

LOL so the systems don't suck because they are completely superfluous. Makes sense.... in an alternate reality, perhaps.

lmao it is what it is in the reality of you playing a shitty CRPG

 

[roshan]

LOL WTF. You can gain points in a skill by selecting it in dialogue. Now we need to grind dialogue in order to gain skill points??? First they forced people to quest grind in Pillars of Shitternity, now they want to force players into dialogue grinding too?

It's like you've never seen an improve by use system before.

"Click on hyperlink to get +stat" is not an "improve by use system", it's just grinding, period, and it limits your options in dialogue to those that confer the bonus stats. An improve by use system should involve some player thought, effort and skill, but as implemented by Obshitian, it's just grindy and ruins the whole point of dialogue trees and options.

 

[Excidium II]

If you lose your sleep over stat increases in this braindead game it's time to kys

Also unless I missed something you always use the highest score from the party? Because I passed every athletics check even though I was a mage.

 

[Sentinel]

You do always use the highest score from the party.

 

[agentorange]

The Act IV and V stuff in that art book is just the ending slides/stuff that was in Act III (the resonator on top of the tower).

 

[Haplo]

LOL WTF. You can gain points in a skill by selecting it in dialogue. Now we need to grind dialogue in order to gain skill points??? First they forced people to quest grind in Pillars of Shitternity, now they want to force players into dialogue grinding too?

It's like you've never seen an improve by use system before.

"Click on hyperlink to get +stat" is not an "improve by use system", it's just grinding, period, and it limits your options in dialogue to those that confer the bonus stats. An improve by use system should involve some player thought, effort and skill, but as implemented by Obshitian, it's just grindy and ruins the whole point of dialogue trees and options.

Like other's have pointed, you absolutely don't have to though. You can just pay some spare change to train skills (up to 5 points per level), you use the party highest score, so you can split the 3 that are actually tested (Lore, Subterfuge, Athletics) among members (not that it's needed) aaand you also train them outside dialogue, in combat, while scaling rocks/crossing rivers/other, while creating magic spells, detecting hidden stashes, opening locks, etc.

 

[hell bovine]

LOL WTF. You can gain points in a skill by selecting it in dialogue. Now we need to grind dialogue in order to gain skill points??? First they forced people to quest grind in Pillars of Shitternity, now they want to force players into dialogue grinding too?

It's like you've never seen an improve by use system before.

"Click on hyperlink to get +stat" is not an "improve by use system", it's just grinding, period, and it limits your options in dialogue to those that confer the bonus stats. An improve by use system should involve some player thought, effort and skill, but as implemented by Obshitian, it's just grindy and ruins the whole point of dialogue trees and options.

You are the one that chooses to grind, blame yourself for being so obsessive about it. As haplo pointed out, those skills are easily raised by trainers and outside of dialogue. You can also turn dialogue skill checks being displayed off (options > difficulty > uncheck one of the options there, forgot how it's called; or just turn expert mode on).

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

You are the one that chooses to grind, blame yourself for being so obsessive about it. As haplo pointed out, those skills are easily raised by trainers and outside of dialogue. You can also turn dialogue skill checks being displayed off (options > difficulty > uncheck one of the options there, forgot how it's called; or just turn expert mode on).

You already sound like you've played the game multiple times and treasure it as a classic...

 

[hell bovine]

You are the one that chooses to grind, blame yourself for being so obsessive about it. As haplo pointed out, those skills are easily raised by trainers and outside of dialogue. You can also turn dialogue skill checks being displayed off (options > difficulty > uncheck one of the options there, forgot how it's called; or just turn expert mode on).

You already sound like you've played the game multiple times and treasure it as a classic...

mhm, sure, if you say so

 

[Bubbles]

The Act IV and V stuff in that art book is just the ending slides/stuff that was in Act III (the resonator on top of the tower).

Well, it's in Act 3 now...

 

[roshan]

Combat is incredibly boring. Essentially, waiting for cooldowns to finish and then spamming the abilities when they are available. I can't believe anyone would think this is in any way good design.

 

[Ausdoerrt]

So I finished it last night. Subjectively, I liked it quite a bit. The game's fun, to the point, has a cool setting, and is not a complete slog like PoE (which I couldn't even bother to complete on the first try and until they patched the hell out of it). I'm also tempted to replay it another time or three to try different stuff, which is a good reaction.

Objectively... well, it could've been less buggy and somewhat better written. But I'm not seeing any significant competitors right now, so it came at a good time.

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

Been playing this for a few hours and beginning to doubt my choice of trying to be impartial towards the Disfavored/Chorus. Is "neutral judge" even viable in this game, story-wise? I thought that was the whole point of being an agent of this Tunon chap, but the game seems to be trying to push me towards picking a side.

 

[Sizzle]

Been playing this for a few hours and beginning to doubt my choice of trying to be impartial towards the Disfavored/Chorus. Is "neutral judge" even viable in this game, story-wise? I thought that was the whole point of being an agent of this Tunon chap, but the game seems to be trying to push me towards picking a side.

Four sides (with a couple of places where you can switch allegiances) are available - the Disfavored, the Scarlet Chorus, the Rebels and the Independent path.

 

[anus_pounder]

I wish there was a 5th option to be an agent of Tunon all the way.

 

[ilitarist]

I wish there was a 5th option to be an agent of Tunon all the way.

Indeed. I thought

Spoiler

Tunon pledging to you was a trap and wondered why there's no "I'm still loyal to Kyros, stop that" reaction. I know it'd be sort of letdown but it's a completely valid in-character decision for a many player character types. You have many opportunities to say you believe in progress of the empire.

 

[veevoir]

Actually, rebel path should fork to that.

When you take the Well with the rebels Tunon acknowledges that you use them and should continue using them, but if they step out of the line - crush them. Basically I'm very disappointed that on one hand you can string along the rebels up to the point where they all meet you - and kill them.

On the other - you can't do pretty much the same for the duration of the storyline only to dispose of them once Disfavored/Chorus are brought to heel..

 

[adddeed]

LOL WTF. You can gain points in a skill by selecting it in dialogue. Now we need to grind dialogue in order to gain skill points??? First they forced people to quest grind in Pillars of Shitternity, now they want to force players into dialogue grinding too?

Who's we chump? If you choose to grind all the best to you. Plus you know you can disable the qualifiers etc for the dialogue and you can not see any effects of dialogue options? No one is forcing you to do anything. What a bozo.

 

[Bonerbill]

I wish there was a 5th option to be an agent of Tunon all the way.

Since Tunon would still want you dead no matter what, a Tunon path should end with Tunon killing you because you're dumb enough to still follow him after Fatebinder Myothis' warnings.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Been playing this for a few hours and beginning to doubt my choice of trying to be impartial towards the Disfavored/Chorus. Is "neutral judge" even viable in this game, story-wise? I thought that was the whole point of being an agent of this Tunon chap, but the game seems to be trying to push me towards picking a side.

Four sides (with a couple of places where you can switch allegiances) are available - the Disfavored, the Scarlet Chorus, the Rebels and the Independent path.

How can one into independent path? Basically, you have to favor one faction over the other to build loyalty and then give the command to the other faction? Or is there another way?

 

[Mei Scarlet]

I wish there was a 5th option to be an agent of Tunon all the way.

Since Tunon would still want you dead no matter what, a Tunon path should end with Tunon killing you because you're dumb enough to still follow him after Fatebinder Myothis' warnings.

Why would he want to kill you if you'll pledge allegiance to him? For the whole game I was acting as a loyal dog of Kyros and therefore Tunon so Tunon's decision to bow to me came really out of the blue.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Tyranny drinking game: take a shot everytine you have [glares silently] dialogue option

 

[Popiel]

About 45 times if you'll go Rebel path.

 

[HoboForEternity]

so alcohol poisoning then