Undernauts: Labyrinth of Yomi - new Exp. Inc dungeon RPG

[Jermu]

Tried first post game area, boss was identical to that area's boss (little bit more dmg/hp maybe). Im done with this game for now.

 

[Silva]

So the game isn't totally shit but is enough of a weak sauce that I'll be waiting for a sale on PS4.

Thanks for the input Jermu . You saved me some bucks.

 

[Grauken]

It's out, 50€ is steep though

 

[Adenocaulon]

no launch discount

 

[Grauken]

Still bought it because I want to support dungeon crawlers, but I can understand people waiting for discounts or other options.

 

[Reinhardt]

Will buy it in a few days for

Gud girl.

But yes - price was a bit unexpected.

 

[Grauken]

It's fun so far.

• You build your main char, go around some until you find the 1st camp, then build 5 other chars. Fully customizable with the usual types of character classes.
• You have to build doors and later ladders and other types of environmental stuff to progress in the game, you do this via a resource you get by destroying useless items
• Pretty easy so far. You have fixed battles, some of which regenerate whenever you enter and then leave camp again, and random battles (very low encounter rate at the moment)
• Levelling up happens pretty fast so far, you get 1 attribute point per level up (standard attributes you have in any RPG) and also skills points to level up those as well. Sorcerers/Clerics have their spells, fighters special attacks that are basically the same as spells, both use up MP
• There's a mechanic where you main char can activate 1 of 3 effects per battle per rounds (High defense, Spells/Skills don't cost MP or high evasion, or alternatively you can recharge one of those again)
• Per each level there's a monster that once killed activates the light on each level and supposedly lowers the encounter rate as well
• Fixed monsters, chests, NPCs are all marked visually in the 3d view
• You have a minimap and can open a pretty exhaustive automap, but no way to make notes (not that I have needed that so far)
• HP, MP and so on get replenished when you enter the camp
• No exit button from the game. Weird
• Controls are the usual gamepad stuff you expect from a console crawler
• Plot so far has a bit of a horror vibe (you get stuck in the Yomi dungeon, the portal doesn't work and everybody at camp 2 and your initial team got butchered by monsters)

 

[Grauken]

Found a game stopping bug, at least for me.

When you beat the first boss monster and then go back to the camp, if you show the girl the foto the game tells you it can't proceed until something is installed and the locks you in on the screen

 

[MuscleSpark]

Not exit button from the game. Weird

It's not that weird when you consider that the game was built for consoles where you use a dedicated button to go back to the home screen and turn off the game from there.

 

[Grauken]

Not exit button from the game. Weird

It's not that weird when you consider that the game was built for consoles where you use a dedicated button to go back to the home screen and turn off the game from there.

That makes kinda sense, but given that most ports manage to include a dedicated quit function, I assumed this one would as well

 

[Thac0]

Experience Inc frustrates me, because with their ultra easy difficulty and good art style they would be made to be babbies first blobber and draw money into the subgenre.
They are fucking retarded however and keep fucking up on the port and marketing department. Hell with how casual friendly they are all of their games should be +70% positive reviews on steam, but most are yellow like all other blobbers. Not because they filter noobs like the rest of the pack, because they have shitty ports like this, are ridiculously overpriced and sold in gay bundles.
I will wait for 50% discount or more.

I don't think either this or Dungeon Encounters will sell all that well, and while I think Mary Skelter Finale sold alright those are definitly not numbers that will push up the amount of drpgs in production either. Labyrith of Galleria has a chance to do well, from what I have heard of the changes however I do not think it well outself Refrain either. Geofront is translating Dinosaur so that might do well if the critically autistic Trails fanbase latches on to it, but who knows how long that will take.

I think it will all come down to Atlus' Etrian Odyssey team again. If they are working on a dungeon crawler again behind the scenes, as Etrian Odyssey sells consistently pretty well and EO was the game that triggered the revival of drpgs in Japan in the first place. If there is a new drpg by the EO team in the oven.
Also Cattle Call (Alliance Allive) is busy porting Demon Gaze to the West, and Cattle Call is at least known for high polish.

So the drpg god still has a few rounds in the chamber, but with so many consecutive misses sales wise the drpg might fade to obscurity again.

 

[Kruno]

I was looking forward to this. Too bad it is popamole shit.

 

[Grauken]

Okay, bug is fixed, crawling can go on

I was looking forward to this. Too bad it is popamole shit.

So you only pretend to like dungeon crawlers?

 

[flyingjohn]

Pc port:
-No windows 7 support and that same missing dll is why you don't have the quit button and shit controller option.
Swith emu:
-Can play on windows xp and can use any controller,plus there is quit button.

Good job,experience.fail.

 

[d1r]

It's fun so far.

• You build your main char, go around some until you find the 1st camp, then build 5 other chars. Fully customizable with the usual types of character classes.
• You have to build doors and later ladders and other types of environmental stuff to progress in the game, you do this via a resource you get by destroying useless items
• Pretty easy so far. You have fixed battles, some of which regenerate whenever you enter and then leave camp again, and random battles (very low encounter rate at the moment)
• Levelling up happens pretty fast so far, you get 1 attribute point per level up (standard attributes you have in any RPG) and also skills points to level up those as well. Sorcerers/Clerics have their spells, fighters special attacks that are basically the same as spells, both use up MP
• There's a mechanic where you main char can activate 1 of 3 effects per battle per rounds (High defense, Spells/Skills don't cost MP or high evasion, or alternatively you can recharge one of those again)
• Per each level there's a monster that once killed activates the light on each level and supposedly lowers the encounter rate as well
• Fixed monsters, chests, NPCs are all marked visually in the 3d view
• You have a minimap and can open a pretty exhaustive automap, but no way to make notes (not that I have needed that so far)
• HP, MP and so on get replenished when you enter the camp
• No exit button from the game. Weird
• Controls are the usual gamepad stuff you expect from a console crawler
• Plot so far has a bit of a horror vibe (you get stuck in the Yomi dungeon, the portal doesn't work and everybody at camp 2 and your initial team got butchered by monsters)

Any new info on the difficulty? Game otherwise sounds great. And I fucking love the art style.

 

[Jermu]

easy

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Mature Rating?

Price seems steep for a short easy game. I like the map, a lot of the features but it does seem a tad steep and the gameplay looks pretty simple. .... and no GOG.




Is there an OST to listen to?

 

[Lyre Mors]

Why in the hell even go through the effort of making a DRPG if you're going to just make it easy as fuck? I cannot fathom how a group of people who dedicate their lives to making a dungeon crawler for a year or two would be alright with illegitimatizing their game in such a way. It just boggles the mind.

Such a waste of potential.

 

[flyingjohn]

Why in the hell even go through the effort of making a DRPG if you're going to just make it easy as fuck? I cannot fathom how a group of people who dedicate their lives to making a dungeon crawler for a year or two would be alright with illegitimatizing their game in such a way. It just boggles the mind.

Such a waste of potential.

Because most of their sales are from switch and that is a casual audience.
Pc barely accounts for anything.

 

[Reinhardt]

Implying pc crowd are not kazuls.

 

[flyingjohn]

Implying pc crowd are not kazuls.

They are cheap casuals.

 

[Lyre Mors]

Because most of their sales are from switch and that is a casual audience.
Pc barely accounts for anything.

Yeah, of course a part of me would want to concede to the fact it's all motivated by monetary concerns, but when you're dedicated to such a niche genre, you would think the passion of that would encourage a certain faithfulness to what you're creating.

That's the only place my confusion comes from.

 

[Adenocaulon]

I think there the problem may be a combination of difficulty and saving system

A difficult game with custom save, which only allows to save in town or checkpoints (with the risk of loosing your time if you die), or maybe with autosaving but with penalization (like permadeath) encourages a grindy aproach to minimize risks, so the challenge and balance is not appreciated as it should be.

If there is a difficult game but with manual saving, this allow abusing the save system. However you can try a more risky playstyle.

I have it in gog but I have not played Strangers of Swords City or other experience game yet, but as my concern is that in japanese designs difficulty usually encourages grinding instead knowing the game mechanics I do not care if the game may be easy, probably this just mean grinding will not be necessary.

 

[flyingjohn]

Because most of their sales are from switch and that is a casual audience.
Pc barely accounts for anything.

Yeah, of course a part of me would want to concede to the fact it's all motivated by monetary concerns, but when you're dedicated to such a niche genre, you would think the passion of that would encourage a certain faithfulness to what you're creating.

That's the only place my confusion comes from.

Japan hasn't learned what western wargames learned.Keep the complexity up the price and don't over saturate your niche.
The niche audience has no qualms about buying 80+ dollar games if the games are interesting to them.
Japanese devs lower complexity and keep the price which is pretty stupid.At that point they might as well be making generic jrpg's.

 

[Kruno]

Why in the hell even go through the effort of making a DRPG if you're going to just make it easy as fuck? I cannot fathom how a group of people who dedicate their lives to making a dungeon crawler for a year or two would be alright with illegitimatizing their game in such a way. It just boggles the mind.

Such a waste of potential.

I think the difficulty of Stranger of Sword City started out perfect. You are vulnerable and you learn the game mechanics through experimentation and inevitable death. The game became far too easy near the middle to the end through.

How can they make a dungeon crawler easier than that? It defeats the whole purpose of the genre. it will be like making a first person shooter where you solve maths puzzles to shoot things with.