Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Zeem]

Spoiler

Yeah, it being Biocorp sub was speculation, a possibility, I didn't express that clearly enough after the first post. I assumed it to be a Biocorp Undernavy military vessel for a couple of reasons: It was a very large sub, based on the amount of shadow dust its negation created. The other docking bays at Abyssal Station can't have been much larger than the ones used for the submersile we get to ride. And as far as we know, nobody had naval power like Biocorp did. Lemurians seemed to prefer smaller, more efficient vehicles. Then there's the word "invading", as in invading military force, but maybe I'm taking that one too literally.

There was no date on the small object negation experiment. It could be from any point between the discovery of shadowlith and the shadow emission. There's a hundred years before the Biocorp invasion.

Anyways, the shadow emission date seems very late to me. It couldn't have been the start of the scientists' corruption, could it? That would barely give enough time for Sørmirbæren "culture" and population to emerge, yet the console logs around research dome paint a picture of a slow and gradual process from scientific research on reptilian DNA and whatnot to macabre rituals.

The submersible used by the player is probably the smallest underwater vehicle utilized in Lemuria. In LemCo you can see one of the larger subspheres docked to a pier, although it's unusable due to being filled with spiderwebs, and research logs also mention heavy sublifters operating in excavation sites.

Spoiler

This subsphere was probably one of those used by future Scalers to get to the surface. Phryg clarified the timeline with LE-BD and LE-AD referring to dates before and after Lemurians moved into Sbyssal Statio Zero respectively. This means ASZ Shadowlith was discovered 20-30 years before Biocorp attack, and the attack itself was commenced in a matter of weeks if not days. Biocorp didn't hang around for long before leaving Ceto with just a couple of guards to stand watch, so mounting an attack on ASZ seems unlikely, although not impossible.

 

[epeli]

Hey Infinitron you were following Underrail devlogs via RSS for your newsposting, right?

The old feeds are probably dead, the site got updated. https://www.stygiansoftware.com/

 

[Infinitron]

How long has this been a thing?

I'm not sure the old site is dead though.

 

[epeli]

How long has this been a thing?

I'm not sure the old site is dead though.

The new site went up just a few hours ago. The devlogs were split by game (underrail/infusion) some months ago already. The old frontpage is still up but I'm not sure if there are any plans to keep updating it and the old feeds.

 

[Infinitron]

Styg didn't create a new thread here for that third Underrail Infusion update so I never saw it.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

God I love this game. I can't wait for Infusion.

 

[hell bovine]

Considering the player character was going to be different anyway, a standalone game works better, so: great news! :D

 

[Alienman]

God I love this game. I can't wait for Infusion.

What is known about Infusion?

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Well the graffix ho in me loves the idea of 3D models, new set pieces, art design, and speshul affex. And yes, I have to write it like a retard because I fully acknowledge those aren't something I should give a fuck about in the context of this.

 

[Ghulgothas]

God I love this game. I can't wait for Infusion.

What is known about Infusion?

That it'll be a standalone module, takes place in a new part of Underrail, will have more of a Industrio-High-Tech Aesthetic since the team got tired of the Junked-up Urban Decay and Tribalistic aesthetic in Underrail and Expedition, and'll have lots n' lots of prettier graphix as they improve their engine.

Nothin' more than that at the moment, plot details, new mechanics and stuff have yet to be revealed. But feel free to wildly speculate.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Don't know if anyone saw this but it's amazing

 

[Essegi]

I hoped for a small discount for Expeditions those sales but nothing... Well, may Stig have a bigger beer (possibly a quadrupel and not one of those abused ipas...), i've still to play the game bun i'm sure he deserves it.
So i started the game, i read a bit and i went for an easy build... Tank assault crafter aka fat nerdy guy with a gun passion: https://underrail.info/build/?AQgDAwgIAwcPAAAAAAAADw8AAA8PDw8PAAAAAAAAAAhP378
Normal difficulty since i know it will be more than enough...
Now i could kill rathounds but they hurt me in return... I have the basic pistol and i am face to face with one i can kill it in 2 rounds taking a hit, in optimal conditions... I can't go far doing that.
I ventured without an armor that seems pretty much mandatory for my character... Also stealth is not an option.
Do you advice to buy one at some vendor, there was one and i just missed it or something else?
I wonder how much money/consumables are an issue early game.

 

[Parabalus]

I hoped for a small discount for Expeditions those sales but nothing... Well, may Stig have a bigger beer (possibly a quadrupel and not one of those abused ipas...), i've still to play the game bun i'm sure he deserves it.
So i started the game, i read a bit and i went for an easy build... Tank assault crafter aka fat nerdy guy with a gun passion: https://underrail.info/build/?AQgDAwgIAwcPAAAAAAAADw8AAA8PDw8PAAAAAAAAAAhP378
Normal difficulty since i know it will be more than enough...
Now i could kill rathounds but they hurt me in return... I have the basic pistol and i am face to face with one i can kill it in 2 rounds taking a hit, in optimal conditions... I can't go far doing that.
I ventured without an armor that seems pretty much mandatory for my character... Also stealth is not an option.
Do you advice to buy one at some vendor, there was one and i just missed it or something else?
I wonder how much money/consumables are an issue early game.

Run to the fences and close the doors behind you, rathounds can't open them and you can shoot through.

At the "boss" throw molotovs.

You should prob amp the difficulty to Hard.

 

[Essegi]

Yup i noticed that, it's just i can't do that on all enemies. I just discovered the 85% health cap for regen that is quite useful. Also i don't have a repair kit and the pistol is degrading faster than i thought... Need really to get familiar with the system, i stick on normal at least until i learn the basics...

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Ol' Willy]

Need really to get familiar with the system, i stick on normal at least until i learn the basics...

Early game is pain considering the economy and finances, you're unlikely to have enough cash to afford anything but the most necessary stuff. Later, money will stop being a problem.

 

[Zeem]

I hoped for a small discount for Expeditions those sales but nothing... Well, may Stig have a bigger beer (possibly a quadrupel and not one of those abused ipas...), i've still to play the game bun i'm sure he deserves it.
So i started the game, i read a bit and i went for an easy build... Tank assault crafter aka fat nerdy guy with a gun passion: https://underrail.info/build/?AQgDAwgIAwcPAAAAAAAADw8AAA8PDw8PAAAAAAAAAAhP378
Normal difficulty since i know it will be more than enough...
Now i could kill rathounds but they hurt me in return... I have the basic pistol and i am face to face with one i can kill it in 2 rounds taking a hit, in optimal conditions... I can't go far doing that.
I ventured without an armor that seems pretty much mandatory for my character... Also stealth is not an option.
Do you advice to buy one at some vendor, there was one and i just missed it or something else?
I wonder how much money/consumables are an issue early game.

Early game is the only time you're going to be hard-pressed for money and ammo/consumables (unless you decide to minmax supersteel, buy best jet skis and fully furnish your house, but by that point you'll be swimming in cash on Normal anyway). I suggest grabbing Aimed Shot feat ASAP, Expertise is pretty much useless early on and improving crit chance is much better once you start crafting your own gear (which should be in Junkyard). Base ability spread is good, I suggest putting all the additional points you get from leveling into Perception to boost your Guns skill and get access to some great gun-related feats.
Look into how feats can synergize with each other - for example taking Suppressive Fire and Opportunist means a free 15% damage bonus on all your bursts, using Kneecap Shot with Opportunist also boosts any subsequent attacks by 15%. Put some points into Throwing as well, grenades are quite powerful in this game

Are there random quests in underrail

There are now. Harland's quest has a couple variations, or it may instead spawn another quest with its own dungeon in near Junkyard.

 

[hell bovine]

im trying to understand harland quest in SGS.

so normally I play on autopilot mode but one of the new characters saw new dialog from guns seller which unlocked nice questline from harland. I assume its fairly new thing.

Thing is, I just started new character and I cant see it? As in there is no dialog option to start whole thing. Whats more Harland camera isnt smashed(he got 2).

I think it's a random quest, got it with some characters but not others.

 

[ciox]

There are whole random zones you can encounter, keep an eye out for new doors and level exits.

 

[Essegi]

Early game is pain considering the economy and finances, you're unlikely to have enough cash to afford anything but the most necessary stuff. Later, money will stop being a problem.

Well, i just bought a rahound leather armor... Things are easier now.

Early game is the only time you're going to be hard-pressed for money and ammo/consumables (unless you decide to minmax supersteel, buy best jet skis and fully furnish your house, but by that point you'll be swimming in cash on Normal anyway). I suggest grabbing Aimed Shot feat ASAP, Expertise is pretty much useless early on and improving crit chance is much better once you start crafting your own gear (which should be in Junkyard). Base ability spread is good, I suggest putting all the additional points you get from leveling into Perception to boost your Guns skill and get access to some great gun-related feats.
Look into how feats can synergize with each other - for example taking Suppressive Fire and Opportunist means a free 15% damage bonus on all your bursts, using Kneecap Shot with Opportunist also boosts any subsequent attacks by 15%. Put some points into Throwing as well, grenades are quite powerful in this game

Yup, got to level 2 and took aimed shot. I managed to go to M'lan Ratula and kill him and, after some tries i got lucky (1 normal shot, 1 aimed shot and 1 regular critical). Now i expect things to go bad, pistol condition is less than 50% and i don't have a repair kit...
EDIT: lol after that the quest was done, i reactivated all 5 points. That game makes me feel like a sissy.

 

[Zeem]

Well, i just bought a rahound leather armor...

You know there's a free suit of leather armor in one of the lockers in your quarters?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Essegi]

Well, i just bought a rahound leather armor...

You know there's a free suit of leather armor in one of the lockers in your quarters?

FFS... I returned to my room and i don't know why i overlooked a single locker... Ofc the one with armor and repairs kit...
Nice start!
Thanks btw!

 

[Jason Liang]

So I got Qinalo to her sweet 16 on Oddity DOMINATING a few days ago but I haven't any motivation to continue. She wipes the floor with everything in combat, and scrounging for more Oddities is a chore. Psi trivialized combat already and since she got Critical Power it's even worse. At this point there isn't really anything interesting to do in the game. This game reminds me of Arcanum far more than Fallout, and this is sort of the same problem Arcanum had.

I've thought about restarting with Classic mode and with a less Psi heavy build, but that seems pointless as well. For those interested, the build I decided on was 3/10/3/3/5/10/6, dex melee Versatility with TC, PK and TM. Feats are Versatility, Opportunist, Psi Empathy, Tranquility, Parry, Premeditation, Ambush, Psycho-Temporal Acceleration, Cheap Shots, Locus of Control, Critical Power. https://underrail.info/build/?EAMNAwMGCgYAAABaAAAoPTIAGyVaAB4AWjcANy0AMismwqM_BsKZAirCh0shGt-_

All the feats were ok, except Parry. If I restarted I would probably go PER Guns Versatility instead, and cut Psychokinesis and maybe Thought Control to see if it makes combat more enjoyable.

Underrail is an ok rpg but it has some off issues with both combat and the game progression. I would mention these main issues-

- Feat selection. Some feats are extremely narrow or for LARPing only, while others break the game combat like Locus of Control and Critical Power. Feats typically personalize your character in other rpgs, but in Underrail what defines your character is your main attribute and the skills you choose to focus on. Choosing feats feels trivialized.
- Skill points are too plentiful. I don't really want to craft but there's nothing else for me to really spend points on.
- The combat encounter design is kind of lazy, but maybe this is the fault of the issues with the combat system.
- Overall the game gets too easy and your character gets too powerful too quickly. It's also that you have so many options for combat that the AI is helpless.
- The game is sort of in a bad spot of not being plot driven, but not having enough diverse content to being a true sandbox either. There's places to explore and quests in those places, but not much else. In other words, the main plot and quest line is not that exciting, but neither does the game have enough outside of following the quest line.