Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Parabalus]

Are there any cryo or pyro collectors before Depot A?

 

[Yaz]

Maybe as random loot?

I've never paid attention to Fixer for that, but on the slight off-chance - he doesn't have any?

 

[ciox]

Ok, guys, in this new run i'll attempt to steal a jet from Ray's without getting caught. I want to go to Black Sea without even talking to Aegis. Wonder if i can pull it off.

Stealing a Ray jetski without hostilities is doable, it just has to be one of the really cheap ones. As for how Aegis reacts

Spoiler

they just leave at the same time as you, and somehow jump ahead of you with their heavy barge, but hey at least you can do this in the first place which is more than many games would allow.

 

[Parabalus]

Maybe as random loot?

I've never paid attention to Fixer for that, but on the slight off-chance - he doesn't have any?

No, they're all acid.

 

[Yaz]

No, they're all acid.

Acid ones?

Incendiary/Cryo could be spawning in the newer locations(later dungeon additions.) I suppose it's worth checking out now.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Yaz]

Quinton is sure to have some... I think. But only after Depot A is completed. As far I understood he wants it before that. Clearly he wants to roast some dogs.

PS: if this was D:OS2 we'd see some nice interaction in setting an acid soaked ground on fire.

 

[CHEMS]

You know, Depot A kinda reminds Black Montain Clan from Arcanum. Wyatt Pear reminds me of Gudmund Ore Bender: they both lost their close peers to experimental evil and spent years laying traps and resenting what happened. I wonder if BMC actually inspired the level.

 

[Sheepherder]

Are there any cryo or pyro collectors before Depot A?

Scrapper merchant - Gort sells them. A bit rare tho, quality goes up to 69. Blaine sells them too, but good luck with that.

 

[Yaz]

Arcanum

I'd need a good patch to play Arcanum. The basic Steam version isn't very good technically speaking.

 

[CHEMS]

Arcanum

I'd need a good patch to play Arcanum. The basic Steam version isn't very good technically speaking.

Try Arcanum Multiverse, it's pretty good. Also Drogg's been doing stuff again, i think there was a new patch from him last year

 

[Yaz]

Cool, cool. I'd be giving that a try some time very soon .

 

[Sykar]

Trying to make a good Psi-melee hybrid, having trouble deciding on some things especially my ability scores, gonna be playing on hard

Here is the build I'm thinking of at the moment, feats are not necessarily in the order I will take them https://underrail.info/build/?HgUIA...8Kdwq7CjcK9FkshwrcUZOKdjQLiorUC4qe-CuKslwHfvw

Anything I can do to improve the build?

With that much PSI you will be able to wizard sorcerer yourself out of anything, you don't really need to change anything.

I'd take Psychosis though, and def Expose Weakness so you can slice up robots, seems like the ideal use case.
Psychostatic electricity and Psycho-neural flexibility are pretty weak feats, and I'd take more TM for stasis.

5 CON is definitely a waste though, either drop it to 3 or go to 9 for SI. If you drop it to 3 and put the points in DEX you get Ripper which is great.

What makes Psychostatic electricity a bad feat? I thought it was a pretty decent feat with 5% crit chance at the very least that affects everything including psi powers.

Slow and unreliable to stack. Electrokinesis is a weak spell and hogs up Premed, so usually you use just it to stun.

Trying to make a good Psi-melee hybrid, having trouble deciding on some things especially my ability scores, gonna be playing on hard

Here is the build I'm thinking of at the moment, feats are not necessarily in the order I will take them https://underrail.info/build/?HgUIA...8Kdwq7CjcK9FkshwrcUZOKdjQLiorUC4qe-CuKslwHfvw

Anything I can do to improve the build?

Instead of Int/Will/ Dex, I would max out str. 9/6/3/3/3/10/6, put all extra points to strength. With swords, you don't get much out of extra dex past 6 for the feats.

Might as well go Hammer then. But his build has higher mental stats, more PSI focus.

Electrokinesis is one of two spam-able spells that does well against robots, the other being Temporal Distortion. NO is worthless and CK is close to. TP does not stun and gets its damage reduced by a large margin. Implosion does better though but is single target and on a CD.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Yaz]

Nagas have very high everything.

Use some Corrosive Acid and some 8.6 W2C Steel-Kat.

 

[CHEMS]

so... on dominating, here is naga with full 5 polarization stacks

it... makes no sense? Unless I dont understand this correctly and it reduces it by 50%, which would mean that on dom naga sits at 100 (80%) energy defense...

If you're not running a crit build, Laser Pistols are just weak. Polarization isn't that good, get an amplified one if you have critical power.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[CHEMS]

UPDATE: OPERATION GRAND THEFT AQUA WAS A TOTAL SUCCESS

Yes, it is possible to steal a jet from Ray even before expedition starts. I will post the necessary steps here:

What you need: High perception to see the hidden vent (attempting to lock the outside door will get you spotted by the camera) and 110 effective lockpicking skill and one hotwiring tool

1 - Get to the hidden vent so you gain access to Ray's Shop
2 - Get out through the door near the watergate
3 - Stay directly BELOW the camera overseeing the Freighter, you won't be detected
4 - Start combat mode and make a run for the end of the pier by the Skimmer
5 - Exit combat and enter stealth (otherwise you'll get shot by that cunt Briggs)
6 - Pick the ignition from the Skimmer
7 - Enter combat mode, hop on the skimmer, pop a adrenaline shot and sail to the left
8 - DO NOT APPROACH ANY ONE IN CORE CITY IN THIS JET AT ALL, THEY WILL KNOW YOU STOLE IT AND WILL TURN HOSTILE!
9 - Sail to the waterways and look for Jet Skiers
10 - Murder some poor sap and acquire his ride
11 - Since you're not on Ray's stolen ride, you'll be able to go back to Core City
12 - Go to the Black Sea to trigger Ray's Shop
13 - Return to Core City Docks
14 - If you saw the thief on the vents, give his description so you get discounts for Ray
15 - Laugh at the expense of this dumbass who owns the monopoly of jet skis and has no clue you just stole the shit out of his shop
16 - Enjoy jetting at a relative low level, gaining access to the Rig and Drag n' Drop

Pic Related, Dumb Ray butthurt about the stolen jet. Also, note that he says "1" jet and not "one". I think it may be possible to steal more jets from him, but i don't see how.

Also, DO NOT DO THIS if you don't want to be a pirate. Aegis will shoot you if you go near their camp.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[CHEMS]

so you are never able to sail with that jet to core city?

No, you'll have to dump it somewhere. They'll know it's stolen. That's why you have to steal another one from a random jet skier, or if you find an abandoned one, get it instead.

 

[someone else]

Expansion on sale, is it worth getting? I got bored after going down the hole in vanilla and rushed the ending, how many hours is it?

 

[Major_Blackhart]

It is worth it

 

[razvedchiki]

is spear throw worth it for a hoplite build (riot armor +shield)?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG