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Underrail: The Incline Awakens

Discussion in 'Underrail' started by Blaine, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. Gay-Lussac Arcane

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    Thanks to the kind advice of fellow codexers, I made some adjustments to my build and am back to playing! Had quite a bit of fun exploring the new waterways.

    Question, is there a known place for high quality TiChrome Serrated Blades? I want one for my boots, but haven't found an answer to this online. I also couldn't find an answer as for what the quality of the blade improves on the boot, I'd guess the bleed proc is a static 30% and it just adds more damage to unarmed attacks.
     
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  2. Fenix Arcane Vatnik

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    RHK wearing armor that increase fire damage, my Exe critted and did 2K fire damage.
     
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  3. Trashos Arcane

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    Tigranes, are you using the cryoliquid pistol at all? I am guessing that you will not be using it now that you have Cryostasis, but have you ever found any legit use for it?

    The freeze effect is nice, but at 50% probability it may take half a turn to freeze someone. I also found the DC labyrinth worms that have zero resistance to cold, while they are immune to acid and resistant to heat. They can be killed by fire, but I guess cold is an option if one can be bothered to carry the cryoliquid pistol in DC. Still, that's just one enemy.

    I don't know, the cryoliquid pistol does not look competitive to me. Unless I am missing something. It should probably go full cryostasis to be competitive.
     
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  4. Fenix Arcane Vatnik

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    I used it at SI clean up, where it was importnt to delay big bugs.
     
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  5. normie Arcane Patron Zionist Agent

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    cryo for human mook killing and crowd control (definitely the most useful chem gun), fire for critters and fear (easiest to make ammo for, yugest delayed damage multiplier), acid for everything and robits and to goo the floor

    full spec mad chemist is king, adv. cat. belt is a cheat item
     
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  6. Trashos Arcane

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    Hmm.... azuridae are very flammable. Isn't it simpler to just bombard them with fire?
    I haven't tried cryo on them tbh, maybe I should. Goliaths take a while to burn.

    Humans fear fire too. I may have a blindspot, but I do not see the cryo advantage there. Setting them on fire + rooting them in place with acid looks like the simplest tactic.
     
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  7. normie Arcane Patron Zionist Agent

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    the problem with acid is that it kills and if it doesn't, you need to break los to get out of the way of ranged reprisals, the problem with fire is that like every 3rd dude is immune

    cryo is 2 turns of freeze aka no need to break line of sight, zeros enemy evasion for max grenade damage, chills, so it procs opportunist without having to freeze, freeze chance goes up above 60s, highest raw damage, nobody resists it but bots - it's made for juggling groups without them ever getting a shot off
     
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  8. Trashos Arcane

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    I was just thinking that the one thing I'd change is the freeze chance. Imo, it should be 75%-80%. I didn't see 60% last playthrough, I only took it to ~50% with very good materials, but I don't remember the details. I will pay more attention this time. I believe at 60% it is still low (although certainly much better than 50%). At 60% you have ~15% chance to not freeze anyone within 2 shots, ie strategically you will have to plan around freezing someone every 3 shots. That's a lot of AP for a freeze (and I am talking about endgame pistols).
     
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  9. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I am a big lover of acid, and usually go with it 90% of the time building everything around the goo - but this time I've been rotating all 3 types just to see.

    Freeze pistols have a higher base damage rate, but you're not really multiplying that in a chem build. You can freeze enemies with the special, and it can situationally be superior to goo, especially if you aren't on Metathermics. But I am not sure it's particularly useful in general - maybe for freeze + execute as Sheepherder mentioned. At least fire has Pyromaniac to work with it and you can transition to it easily with molotovs.

    But yes, part of it is the flexibility to be able to adapt to fire/cold immune enemy types, and to situations where you can't break LOS on acid. So I'd always carry all three around from now on, I think.
     
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  10. Trashos Arcane

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    Yeah, I love acid too.
    The point about Execute is interesting. I have been using Ambush, and I just realized that this has biased my view of the pistols (in favor of the incendiary one, obviously). OK then.
     
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    The best place for consistent, TiChrome Blades is Leonie's shop at the entrance of the Foundry. Bleed chance is a static 30%, and the quality changes the damage. The more blades you use, the more chances you have to roll for a bleed, but you can't stack multiple bleeds off one attack I believe.
     
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  12. Gay-Lussac Arcane

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    Thanks for the info! Ripper's Glove has 3 procs for bleed and it sometimes causes multiple bleeds with a single hit, so I'd imagine getting more blades on your gear works the same.

    EDIT: I might actually be wrong on that last bit. Could've sworn I saw it happen, guess not.

    EDIT 2: Ok, yeah, I've definitely had several bleed procs from the same strike happen just now.
     
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  13. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    It's possible, but the Ripper's Glove is a unique glove and if you notice, it has the bleed text written three different times. It's possible more blades on your gear works the same, IDK yet. I'm currently playing a fist build and will be crafting some armor with multiple blades, so I will let you know.
     
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  14. roshan Arcane

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    Where can I read about this update? Thinking of playing Underrail again but might wait for this.
     
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  15. jackofshadows Magister

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    Only Godmen Styg knows. The last dev's activity occured in late july so I wouldn't expect the new update too soon.
     
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  16. damager Arbiter

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    After reinstalling the game on steam my savegames are lost. Aren't they saved in steam, online? I have to admit the last time I played is years ago... but still...

    My build was my baby, kinda...
     
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  17. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    Just did the three master's fight. It was very well done, a lot more fun than the Utility Tower. Unfortunately, I instantly found the way to cheese it instead of facing them head on, but it was still really cool.

    I wanted to ask, has anyone compiled any lore on the encounter? I believe the email that tells you whether or not the Three Master's have spawned versus the Utility Tower has something to do with someone breaking out of prison, right? They have a group called DomiNation? One of their lines of dialogue says something about how "We've suffered more than this"? It really was a fascinating encounter, and it reminded me of how many awesome encounters can actually be created using Underrail's engine.
     
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  18. Gay-Lussac Arcane

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    Man the Jet Ski's on Ray's shop are so damn expensive. I really want a big one to put all the cool parts I found in the waterway, but there's no chance in hell I'm gonna get the money for any of them. Maybe if I put some points into Mercantile, but it's so late for that. I'm just scrounging for my third set of super steel as is.
     
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  19. Spark Mandriller Augur

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    Go ask Jon the Beautiful about them. Selling information is his entire purpose.
    They don't have a complex backstory though, just that they got mad when Arena shut down the team mode they were part of.
     
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  20. Gay-Lussac Arcane

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    By the way, there's no way to decode the lore thingies from the DLC if you're with the pirates, right? Internet says no, just wondering if something got added in one of the later updates.
     
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  21. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Man there's a lot of these new little areas that I haven't noticed

    Have a lot of people found the Mind Cracker? I don't really think it's particularly attractive for actual use, but the area is very cool
     
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  22. Spark Mandriller Augur

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    It's basically a ~120 quality tichrome hammer with anti psi effects. Even if you don't care about the psi that's still pretty useful considering how early you can get it. As long as you can deal with the beetle party to get it, at least.
     
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  23. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    Yeah I found out. Nearly had a stroke trying to find my way back out with all the fucking beetles that were there on Dominating, and my low level character.

    There are a lot of new areas like you said that are flying under the radar that are really interesting and make the game feel much more alive than I remember. I'm sure you know all about the Lost Vault, but I had a really good time going through that as well, as I had missed it in my other playthroughs recently. And Utility Station 6 was a great update as well.
     
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  24. Fenix Arcane Vatnik

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    This in a sence it has higher chance to proc than acid at SI time.
     
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  25. Gay-Lussac Arcane

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    MY FUCKING GOD I FORGOT THERE WERE SETTINGS TO SPEED UP COMBAT THOSE FIGHTS WITH 100 ENEMIES IN EXPEDITION WERE DRIVING ME INSANE
     
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