Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Tygrende]

So high AGI/PER, stealth, crossbows, throwing, traps, pickpocket, and the relevant crafting skills?

Yeah, something like that. Probably want 10 AGI to pick blitz, at least some DEX so keeping throwing/pickpocket won't bankrupt you. As much PER as you are left with to hit things.

 

[notpl]

A throw/crossbow/trap guy uses which craft skills? Mechanics and chemistry?

Would Versatile be worthwhile on that build to use melee occasionally without skill investment or nah?

 

[lukaszek]

What are everyone's thoughts on the stealthiest possible murderhobo? I feel like it would mean either going all-in on crossbows and traps, or pure knife melee with a bit of throwing, without much point in splitting the difference between them, but I'm by no means a master underrail buildsmith like a lot of the people here.

Depending on what you mean by "stealthiest possible murderhobo", crossbow will probably be able to pull of stealthy kills knife couldn't because it's ranged.

let me start by saying that getting in range was never an issue.

Now for actual stealthiest assassin(human enemies) - go knives with versatility and execute. You will cut some throats and execute with silenced gun.

Dont dismiss throwing if you truly want stealthy takedown at range. When it comes to spear throwing you can go with 3str and regular max dex knife guy. Grab required feat, craft winged spear, silently throw javelin at max distance. Can poison!

 

[Tygrende]

let me start by saying that getting in range was never an issue.

It's not about getting in range as much as it is about being able to kill things without possibly being in view of others things. It doesn't matter often, but ranged can do pull off stealthy kills melee can't from time to time.

 

[Tigranes]

lukaszek How do your knifehobos tend to handle situations where they have to be exposed somewhat to danger - e.g. Depot A mutant hordes, where many builds will trap bottlenecks and throw molotovs, but you don't yet have the tools to hit & run stasis or completely control the battlefield, meaning the dogs will acid web you?

 

[ItsChon]

Also, since the last update you only need to kill 2 things in the game, actually. Both at the very end of the game. I already did a pacifist run a very long time ago and will be doing another one soon.

Wtf, what two things? Tchort and?

 

[lukaszek]

lukaszek How do your knifehobos tend to handle situations where they have to be exposed somewhat to danger - e.g. Depot A mutant hordes, where many builds will trap bottlenecks and throw molotovs, but you don't yet have the tools to hit & run stasis or completely control the battlefield, meaning the dogs will acid web you?

i throw molotovs and create bottlenecks
Depot A can be stealthed through obviously, but if you got sneak then you can create ambushes until you collect all the oddities. How do you think my knife thrower cleared depot 1 on dominating?


There are 3 areas. 1st with dogs is easy - go kill the robot. Not sure if it was case before but its destruction generates enough noise to attract all the dogs. Close the door. Open the door. Throw molotow. Repeat

Other 2 I fight in same way: my go to mechanism is place mine at the end of patroling mutant route. That will attract everything on the map to hug and gather in specific spot. Preferable throw a bunch of caltrops in your escape route. Throw molotow to set most of the enemies on fire. Now you either keep retreating into other traps or run away and restealth. Worst case scenario - take one exit and come back from another.
To be real though, knifer doesnt have it that hard. You can enter depot A as lvl10 on oddity and thats what I usually do on dominating. Fancy footwork and cheapshot is given, it allows you hit&run tactics with muties. You will learn how to retreat to stay out of dogs line of sight.

Wtf, what two things? Tchort and?

mushroom. Not sure how is that different since latest update though?

 

[Tygrende]

Not sure how is that different since latest update though?

Spoiler

There's an alternative questline to skip arena and oligarchs, both of which forced kills.

 

[Tigranes]

lukaszek huh. Yeah, I suffer by going in Level 8 usually (can you even get to 10 w/o pickpocket?), and then don't restealth/exit zone unless I really need to. But I guess that is the way

 

[Theodora]

How autistic is this game?

(How long does one need to set aside to learn UnderRail / git gud to a basic level?)

 

[ItsChon]

How autistic is this game?

(How long does one need to set aside to learn UnderRail / git gud to a basic level?)

Just use a build from someone else and enjoy the game. The getting good part will happen as you play the game, and most of it is related to character building anyway.

 

[Theodora]

Just use a build from someone else and enjoy the game. The getting good part will happen as you play the game, and most of it is related to character building anyway.

But everyone keeps telling me Styg breaks half of the builds with every update, haha.

Okay though, what kinda build would my dearest Chon recommend?

 

[Tigranes]

The final update is out, and also updates don't break builds unless you made an autistic megamax creation.

Play on Normal/Oddity and you can mess up & experiment. Pick one weapon skill and specialise (psi is more forgiving). Hacking & Lockpicking are great QOL, stealth even more so. Social skills are a bonus and not really needed. Crafting is very powerful.

 

[Ghulgothas]

UnderRail has a low autism floor, but a high autism ceiling.

 

[ItsChon]

Just use a build from someone else and enjoy the game. The getting good part will happen as you play the game, and most of it is related to character building anyway.

But everyone keeps telling me Styg breaks half of the builds with every update, haha.

Okay though, what kinda build would my dearest Chon recommend?

I echo what Tigranes said. You can make your own build if you follow some basic guidelines, but if you're asking me what I'd recommend, it depends on how you want to play. Any requests? Do you want to use Guns, Crossbows, Melee Weapons, Psionics? Do you want to be stealthy? Glass Cannon? Tanky? There is a ton of variety, so you can really play the game how you want to play it.

 

[Theodora]

I echo what Tigranes said. You can make your own build if you follow some basic guidelines, but if you're asking me what I'd recommend, it depends on how you want to play. Any requests? Do you want to use Guns, Crossbows, Melee Weapons, Psionics? Do you want to be stealthy? Glass Cannon? Tanky? There is a ton of variety, so you can really play the game how you want to play it.

Sure, a high risk, high reward 'glass cannon' would be cool, or some noob-friendly specialisation in firearms / ranged damage?

 

[Wunderbar]

Sneaky glass cannons are fun but hard. Noob-friendly build is tin can (heavy armor + assault rifle).

 

[Zeem]

How autistic is this game?

(How long does one need to set aside to learn UnderRail / git gud to a basic level?)

It is as autistic as you want it to be. Most of the veterans are at this point playing thematic meme builds on Dominating, and that's where otherwise minor nerfs and buffs can make or break a character. Playing a relatively normal build on Hard and below is perfectly fine, although you might end up having to restart a couple times if you mess things up too much. Do note that the game pretty much requires you to specialize, jacks of all trades are not particularly viable there.

 

[lukaszek]

can you even get to 10 w/o pickpocket?

it might depend on your luck with getting burrower and wild pigs oddities. 3 protectorate tags can be reclaimed if you are able to go murderhobo during free maura quest. There is an issue with 4xp from insignias, I think scrapper on can be found in one of the containers in scrapper shop. Its possible to stealth grab it

 

[Parabalus]

I echo what Tigranes said. You can make your own build if you follow some basic guidelines, but if you're asking me what I'd recommend, it depends on how you want to play. Any requests? Do you want to use Guns, Crossbows, Melee Weapons, Psionics? Do you want to be stealthy? Glass Cannon? Tanky? There is a ton of variety, so you can really play the game how you want to play it.

Sure, a high risk, high reward 'glass cannon' would be cool, or some noob-friendly specialisation in firearms / ranged damage?

Play a build where you pump your primary stat (the one which affects your main combat skill) to 18. That's enough to make you cruise through Hard.

 

[Comte]

Sneaky glass cannons are fun but hard. Noob-friendly build is tin can (heavy armor + assault rifle).

You got a tin can assault build?

 

[Parabalus]

Not sure how is that different since latest update though?

Spoiler

There's an alternative questline to skip arena and oligarchs, both of which forced kills.

What's the cutoff point, or rather can you still join a faction?

 

[Wunderbar]

Sneaky glass cannons are fun but hard. Noob-friendly build is tin can (heavy armor + assault rifle).

you got a tin can assault build?

eh, I'm not a good build maker, the local maniacs can probably come up with something.

 

[Butter]

This is an AR tin can build I've been working on. I'm sure it's sub-optimal, but still fine for Normal/Hard. Survival Instincts is optional, but you might as well go for it if you're playing this way. Grenadier can probably be moved earlier in the build. Major Supplier at 30 isn't going to matter much if you're already in DC.

https://underrail.info/build/?HgcGB...AAwqAAAAAAAHh9OyYxYhVbSlVJS8KFFsKDJ8K1wqR9378

 

[Tygrende]

Not sure how is that different since latest update though?

Spoiler

There's an alternative questline to skip arena and oligarchs, both of which forced kills.

What's the cutoff point, or rather can you still join a faction?

As far as I'm aware you can still do arena and oligarchs just fine. No idea if you can do it the other way around, first starting the new questline and then joining an oligarch, but I would assume so.