Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[ItsChon]

I echo what Tigranes said. You can make your own build if you follow some basic guidelines, but if you're asking me what I'd recommend, it depends on how you want to play. Any requests? Do you want to use Guns, Crossbows, Melee Weapons, Psionics? Do you want to be stealthy? Glass Cannon? Tanky? There is a ton of variety, so you can really play the game how you want to play it.

Sure, a high risk, high reward 'glass cannon' would be cool, or some noob-friendly specialisation in firearms / ranged damage?

One of my favorite builds was my Thought Control Sniper build. Utilized stealth to set myself up in a good position, set up traps to slow down the enemy and damage them, and finally I finished off any stragglers or enemies that got to close with mind melting Psionic powers. I beat the game on hard without even using any crafting, which is very powerful. Does that sound attractive? You'll be reloading a lot as a first time player, but I think it's very doable, especially on normal.

 

[Trash Player]

But everyone keeps telling me Styg breaks half of the builds with every update, haha.

Okay though, what kinda build would my dearest Chon recommend?

Character building isn't critical in difficulties below Dominating, which has a lot of leeway anyway. But heed this: use consumables. Really, use them. Unlike most CRPGs, they are genuinely useful/powerful, even to the end of the game.

 

[razvedchiki]

how would you make a fuctional spear+riot armor build for hard (psi is forbiden)? i played with it a bit when expeditions was out it was really slow and low dmg compared to a sword build.
went for 10/6/6/8/3/3/5 and nimble/iron grip/impale/board up/sprint/cheap shots/shield arm/shield bash, wanted max con for thick skull but iron grip needs 11 str.

 

[fredsteel]

What are everyone's thoughts on the stealthiest possible murderhobo? I feel like it would mean either going all-in on crossbows and traps, or pure knife melee with a bit of throwing, without much point in splitting the difference between them, but I'm by no means a master underrail buildsmith like a lot of the people here.

Depending on what you mean by "stealthiest possible murderhobo", crossbow will probably be able to pull of stealthy kills knife couldn't because it's ranged.

I mean the best possible build where stealth is the main skill/feat investment. With the oddity system and pickpocket I know you can avoid a surprising amount of combat, but ultimately this is still a combat game so any build is a murderhobo build.

As long as you invest in stealth and plan ahead for crafting, doesn’t really matter what you run on Normal.

I don't really know what "plan ahead for crafting" means, and I might want to try Hard. I've only ever played psi before, pre-Expedition.

As you will play the game you will see that different items have upgraded versions of themselves. I suggest you look up the crafting requirements for these cool items so you have them on one hand, before the game sells it to you and on another hand, it is cheaper.

how would you make a fuctional spear+riot armor build for hard (psi is forbiden)? i played with it a bit when expeditions was out it was really slow and low dmg compared to a sword build.
went for 10/6/6/8/3/3/5 and nimble/iron grip/impale/board up/sprint/cheap shots/shield arm/shield bash, wanted max con for thick skull but iron grip needs 11 str.

From my memory, riot spear needs more feats than say the build I’m currently running which is spear psi (psychokinesis). Overall, the 75% block this build provides is redundant by the time it goes online, as you said even in Expedition which you can start over-leveled it is very underwhelming.

 

[lukaszek]

was curious what one can get from blaine at lvl8. Now I have component for q100 tichrome winged spear that ill be able to craft at lvl9. depotA is going to be fun.
Going for 13 AGI, I think ill pump dex afterwards for better throwing skill? Hitting things at max range is hard

 

[Tigranes]

was curious what one can get from blaine at lvl8. Now I have component for q100 tichrome winged spear that ill be able to craft at lvl9. depotA is going to be fun.
Going for 13 AGI, I think ill pump dex afterwards for better throwing skill? Hitting things at max range is hard

What the hell you can go to Blaine before Depot A? How

What have I been doing the last ten years

 

[Parabalus]

was curious what one can get from blaine at lvl8. Now I have component for q100 tichrome winged spear that ill be able to craft at lvl9. depotA is going to be fun.
Going for 13 AGI, I think ill pump dex afterwards for better throwing skill? Hitting things at max range is hard

What the hell you can go to Blaine before Depot A? How

What have I been doing the last ten years

You can go there immediately if you can hack the intercom, otherwise it's just the scrapper / eel quest, it continues regardless if you go into Depot A or not.

You can even deliver Blaine's head to Eddy and also finish the Eels questline.

 

[Tigranes]

I always thought getting the Depot A chip is what progresses the scrapper eel questline.

Well this is really going to change my 18th Dominating run or whatever this is

 

[Gay-Lussac]

Just met a robed figure in drop zone, he's trying to hack into a locked door. It's tchortist going by his inventory. If I interact with him he runs and eventually disappears. Is there anything to this encounter or should I just kill him?

 

[Tygrende]

Just met a robed figure in drop zone, he's trying to hack into a locked door. It's tchortist going by his inventory. If I interact with him he runs and eventually disappears. Is there anything to this encounter or should I just kill him?

There's more to it. Nothing you can do at that particular encounter though.

 

[lukaszek]

if one raises movement points pool through raising AGI, does your realtime movement speed increase?

 

[Scrounger]

Yes!

Spoiler

For every point above 5 it gives you a +5% to cope

 

[ItsChon]

how would you make a fuctional spear+riot armor build for hard (psi is forbiden)? i played with it a bit when expeditions was out it was really slow and low dmg compared to a sword build.
went for 10/6/6/8/3/3/5 and nimble/iron grip/impale/board up/sprint/cheap shots/shield arm/shield bash, wanted max con for thick skull but iron grip needs 11 str.

That's the right stat lineup, but you can knock your constitution down to 7, as 8 Constitution doesn't offer anything to the build. In terms of damage, it's true that Spears take some time to ramp up. It won't be until around level 16 or so that you really start to put the hurt onto people, but once the build gets going, it feels great. I make sure to have two spears that I can switch between, so when you throw one away you can jab with the other. Once you have a strong energy shield, you become super resistant against most forms of damage. Ranged attacks bounce off your shield, and melee attacks get blocked. Strong recommend.

 

[lukaszek]

so far with my spears experience you need mechanic crafting for depot a. There is no proper merchant, mediocre crafted stuff got 2x better base stats. Probably because there were added late. I guess swords are similar, didnt play.

The more I fool around with it the more Im getting into knifer build with throwing actually. Max dex, get both fatal throw and spear throw, still keep 3str. Thrown spear benefits from all grabbed feats but 1 - ripper. Unlike thrown knives that pretty much nothing work with them

 

[Gay-Lussac]

I'm starting to wonder if I should go Pack Rathound. I have 7 strength and only pick up valuable items, but the added versatility in weapons and ammo I could carry may well be worth a feat. I'm barely getting by as is.

 

[ItsChon]

I'm starting to wonder if I should go Pack Rathound. I have 7 strength and only pick up valuable items, but the added versatility in weapons and ammo I could carry may well be worth a feat. I'm barely getting by as is.

It's a fair investment. Unless you're running a specifically feat hungry build, once you get your main core, the rest become quality of life.

 

[lukaszek]

from my limited testing wings on spear give +1 to range per about 30q. With +3 range Im able to throw it from outside of enemy notice range. I wonder at which point I will be reliably able to throw those spears from afar. Lvl10, 10dex and commando belt gives me 20% against trapped target at max range. At least I was able to assasinate gerhard page. Came prepared to fight his whole squad but single throw removed 80% of his hp on dominating

 

[jackofshadows]

I made a music video about killing tchort


jebsmoker


also it was my first playthrough so only normal difficulty

My man, you do realize that hotkeys are useless if you don't actually use them? I mean, play as you want but recording a vid with clicking is kinda embarasing if you ask me.

Sure, a high risk, high reward 'glass cannon' would be cool, or some noob-friendly specialisation in firearms / ranged damage?

Play a sniper (not necessarily the exact one but to give you an idea).

I'm starting to wonder if I should go Pack Rathound. I have 7 strength and only pick up valuable items, but the added versatility in weapons and ammo I could carry may well be worth a feat. I'm barely getting by as is.

No no no unless you need to carry traps/lots of grenades. Manage it better, make stashes.

 

[Knifegaf]

https://youtu.be/ST6Ru6UuK6Y
what perfect timing that spear is on topic

 

[thesecret1]

I ended up restarting. The stealth crossbowman was... disappointing, really. Not that it is unviable or anything, but I found it really tedious. The "stealth part" is kind of garbage since enemies are almost never in a situation where you could stealth kill them – they tend to be grouped up, and even if you manage to lure one out of sight through traps and the like, you usually don't have the means to kill him within a single turn (especially on dominating) after which he alarms his friends anyway, so the stealth part becomes kinda moot. Generally, every fight ended up being about kiting enemies well enough while utilizing aimed shot and kneecap, which was doable but not very fun. I guess there's other crossbowman builds that are more fun, but this one wasn't it.

I'm trying a heavy shotgunner this time around and so far it's really good :D The difference compared to crossbowman is night and day. While as crossbowman, I couldn't really tank anything and my damage output was negligible (offset by high mobility and range, I suppose), here I go up close and personal, tank enemy hits like they're nothing, and blast them in the face for massive damage. The only negative is that I'm giving up stealth – it was kinda shitty in combat, but I enjoyed the non-combat part of it (ie. getting into interesting places without triggering hostilities with friendly NPCs). Maybe once I get some of the skills to their max potential, I'll have some points left over to dump into stealth, just for fun? I'll probably end up putting it in crafting instead, but it's a possibility.

On another note, I think I'm in love with pickpocketing. It's such a silly skill, doesn't really help you much in combat aside from some highly situational cases (where the enemy is non-hostile at first so you can steal his meds and ammo), but stealing faction-related oddities you otherwise wouldn't have, along with luxury items is pretty fun, and you have basically infinite health hypos and adrenaline shots, since the friendly commoners and guards always carry some of those.

 

[lukaszek]

just had random encounter... i think? In camp hathor there was a guy with nearly destroyed jet. With mechanic and mercantile skills I bought it for 300 harons. As lvl12 guy I already own a jet and can do husar jet ski riding with my spear... at very small speed considering state of my ride.

I must say I love spear throwing, poking with it much less. It only reinforces me in adding spear throw to stabby build. I guess I know what I would do for infusion.

At max range im seeing 1.2k crits with my q100 spear.

Had my fastest rathound king kill

 

[ItsChon]

just had random encounter... i think? In camp hathor there was a guy with nearly destroyed jet. With mechanic and mercantile skills I bought it for 300 harons. As lvl12 guy I already own a jet and can do husar jet ski riding with my spear... at very small speed considering state of my ride.

I must say I love spear throwing, poking with it much less. It only reinforces me in adding spear throw to stabby build. I guess I know what I would do for infusion.

At max range im seeing 1.2k crits with my q100 spear.

Had my fastest rathound king kill

HOLY SHIT! He actually added in a way to access the Waterways before embarking on the Expedition? Fucking legendary. Now I just hope there are ways for you to upgrade your ride. I wonder if Ray's shop is open? What happens when you Jet Ski towards the Black Sea?

 

[lukaszek]

HOLY SHIT! He actually added in a way to access the Waterways before embarking on the Expedition?

there were other ways but definitely harder. As such I can answer your following questions

Now I just hope there are ways for you to upgrade your ride.

I think best way would be to steal better jet from Rig - never had that problem, I think its doable?
That would give you working condition low tier jet. Then for actual upgrade you must be strong enough to do either:
- waterways
- ambush protectorate patrol

I wonder if Ray's shop is open?

it opens only after you start expedition

What happens when you Jet Ski towards the Black Sea?

you end up in black sea with aegis location not available to you

 

[ItsChon]

I think best way would be to steal better jet from Rig - never had that problem, I think its doable?
That would give you working condition low tier jet. Then for actual upgrade you must be strong enough to do either:
- waterways
- ambush protectorate patrol

Fair enough, though it would be nice if there was a Jet Ski shop that was open to a player that featured lower quality parts then Rays, specifically aimed at Early Waterways exploration.

you end up in black sea with aegis location not available to you

How does that work? Like is there a blank where the island is supposed to be? Are there Jet Skiers that stop you from approaching the island?

 

[Tygrende]

just had random encounter... i think? In camp hathor there was a guy with nearly destroyed jet. With mechanic and mercantile skills I bought it for 300 harons. As lvl12 guy I already own a jet and can do husar jet ski riding with my spear... at very small speed considering state of my ride.

I must say I love spear throwing, poking with it much less. It only reinforces me in adding spear throw to stabby build. I guess I know what I would do for infusion.

At max range im seeing 1.2k crits with my q100 spear.

Had my fastest rathound king kill

HOLY SHIT! He actually added in a way to access the Waterways before embarking on the Expedition? Fucking legendary. Now I just hope there are ways for you to upgrade your ride. I wonder if Ray's shop is open? What happens when you Jet Ski towards the Black Sea?

You already could access Black Sea without joining the expedition before. It was just harder.