Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[lukaszek]

people forgot about equilibrium already

 

[CHEMS]

Temporal Manipulation synergizes with everything.

It's just too temptating to slap TM on every build. Very good benefits, little to no drawbacks. But "optimizing" builds adding TM feels too cheap. I tend to avoid doing this, but goddamn it's hard.

 

[Arthandas]

Can you do anything with the "crumbled rocks" in the NW part of Old Junktown, or are they just "environmental lore" ?

 

[lukaszek]

Can you do anything with the "crumbled rocks" in the NW part of Old Junktown, or are they just "environmental lore" ?

they connect to waterways. You can open it from the other side

 

[Razor]

Temporal Manipulation synergizes with everything.

It's just too temptating to slap TM on every build. Very good benefits, little to no drawbacks. But "optimizing" builds adding TM feels too cheap. I tend to avoid doing this, but goddamn it's hard.

I got the allahu akbar belt from the meatheads in blast suits from the sewers. On another note I should remark that bear traps work on them too. Except when one of them dies and the sledgehammerer is still alive. Then he just pulls out his belt, goes into a frenzy and just sprints through every trap to blow up with you.

Anyway looking at TM spells it seems stasis would be a good fit with it. Build a tank, acquire stasis, apply it to gather all the infidels around you and then blow up as the spell expires.

On the matter of hitting friendlies, well yes, avoid the acid pistol there, and cooked shot too if friendlies and enemies are close.

Well yeah, that's my point. Default attack leaves acid puddles around anyway that immediately aggros all friendly NPCs that just walk through there.

 

[Takamori]

Styg posted progress in his twitter on infusion, currently working with the combat and UI I guess?

https://twitter.com/stygdev/status/1642258105919479808?s=20

 

[ItsChon]

Holy fucking shit inject it into my god damned veins. While I always assume the subsequent entry into a series will be inferior to the original, this shit is making me seriously optimistic.

 

[Trashos]

It's just too temptating to slap TM on every build. Very good benefits, little to no drawbacks. But "optimizing" builds adding TM feels too cheap. I tend to avoid doing this, but goddamn it's hard.

I like it myself, because TM freed me from having to use grenades. Maybe I am just not that good, but before TM I often felt I was lacking AP to do the job, and made up for it with grenades and traps. With TM it is easier for me to focus on my main weapon, which makes my builds more different to each other than before, even if they all have TM.

(Plus, I feel that Expedition plays better with more AP. You want me to kill whole densely populated villages, you 'd better give me enough AP to empty my clips.)

 

[Spark Mandriller]

TM is stupid because contraction's bonus stacks with adrenaline, but the drawback doesn't. You're capped at 35 AP minimum so the backfire effect doesn't do anything if you've already got fatigue. So it's just free AP, which are the most valuable thing in the game. And then you get other powers on top of that to make it even better. Crazy.

 

[notpl]

"Take more actions" is always going to be the strongest ability in any system that allows it and devs should simply resist the temptation to include it in the first place.

 

[Tweed]

"Take more actions" is always going to be the strongest ability in any system that allows it and devs should simply resist the temptation to include it in the first place.

*laughs in Action Boy and Bonus Move*

 

[Trashos]

The truth is that the correct AP was 70 (without Adrenaline) all along.

 

[CHEMS]

It's just too temptating to slap TM on every build. Very good benefits, little to no drawbacks. But "optimizing" builds adding TM feels too cheap. I tend to avoid doing this, but goddamn it's hard.

I like it myself, because TM freed me from having to use grenades. Maybe I am just not that good, but before TM I often felt I was lacking AP to do the job, and made up for it with grenades and traps. With TM it is easier for me to focus on my main weapon, which makes my builds more different to each other than before, even if they all have TM.

(Plus, I feel that Expedition plays better with more AP. You want me to kill whole densely populated villages, you 'd better give me enough AP to empty my clips.)

The combo Premed + Stasis is just straight up busted. Instant "I WIN" button unless you fuck up horrendously. You get TWO alpha strikes, there's simply no more powerful combo in the game. Not to mention you get extended buffs during the second alpha strike, you can just murder everything like this, and it only costs you 70 skill points on TM, 6 INT and a feat slot. On a crossbow crit build this lets you steamroll the whole game on DOM.

 

[Trashos]

What "whole game"? You only get Stasis after the Core City main quest. The Black Sea has obviously been designed with TM in mind. So the parts TM makes easier are mainly the Institute of Tchort quests, DC, and probably the Protectorate/Free Drones questline.

I claim that DC (which I was never a big fan of) plays better now. The Protectorate questline probably plays better too. I will not speak of the Free Drones questline, because I haven't done it in a long time. So for me, TM maybe affects negatively the Institute quests. The net effect is positive, afaic.

 

[CHEMS]

You can roll a stasis mentor as soon as you get to Oculus if your mercantile is good enough. I'm pretty sure i've seen it as random loot too...

 

[Arthandas]

Where can you get a 115 quality steel cat smg frame for mp6 upgrade? The weapons store in Core City has one but it's just 60 quality.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Where can you get a 115 quality steel cat smg frame for mp6 upgrade? The weapons store in Core City has one but it's just 60 quality.

For high quality weapon parts you'll need to go the upper rail or be lucky enough to loot it.
The oligarch houses, Protectorate merchant (membership required) and the Tchortists tend to sell high quality parts.

 

[OSK]

The JKK vendor won't sell to me. Is that because I was mean to him? Or is this some kind of bug?

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

The JKK vendor won't sell to me. Is that because I was mean to him? Or is this some kind of bug?

What's your mercantile at? If you want to unlock everything you'll need high mercantile.
JKK isn't great for SMG parts anyway.

Spoiler

Are you part of Oculus? I think Constantine has some parts.

 

[OSK]

The JKK vendor won't sell to me. Is that because I was mean to him? Or is this some kind of bug?

What's your mercantile at? If you want to unlock everything you'll need high mercantile.
JKK isn't great for SMG parts anyway.

I think you confused me with the other guy. In my case, the JKK vendor doesn't even give me the dialog option.

 

[Trashos]

The shop only becomes available after you do a few quests for them. (And you can only do quests for them if you have not done quests for another oligarch.)

 

[OSK]

The shop only becomes available after you do a few quests for them. (And you can only do quests for them if you have not done quests for another oligarch.)

I think I finished all the quests? This is the only dialog option I get with him:

 

[Trashos]

Have you met with the JKK Oligarch? If not, then you have not finished with their quests. Win a few fights in the Arena, and the Oligarch will send a messenger for you for further work.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

The JKK vendor won't sell to me. Is that because I was mean to him? Or is this some kind of bug?

What's your mercantile at? If you want to unlock everything you'll need high mercantile.
JKK isn't great for SMG parts anyway.

I think you confused me with the other guy. In my case, the JKK vendor doesn't even give me the dialog option.

Oh sorry, you're right.
Yeah, you normally have to complete the JKK questline before being able to use their merchant. Do you still have quests with Vivian?

 

[OSK]

Yeah, you normally have to complete the JKK questline before being able to use their merchant. Do you still have quests with Vivian?

Nope. No more quests with Vivian.

Have you met with the JKK Oligarch? If not, then you have not finished with their quests. Win a few fights in the Arena, and the Oligarch will send a messenger for you for further work.

That probably explains it. I wasn't getting any more quests, so I figured I was done.

Thanks.