World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[hivemind]

gamebryo 2

 

[Syme]

We all already know why it's called Bloodlines 2 — it's another cashgrab cashing in on your nostalgia, stop trying to think of alternative reasons.

Wasn't Activision owning Bloodlines specifically a roadblock to getting the sequel out at earlier points? I kinda want to know how they Kotick onboard seeing as whatever offer Paradox may have made has to be pocket change to Big B.

I personally don't think Kotick is anywhere near as bad as people like to make him out to be, I doubt it would be hard to get him on board for a project like this.
People hate Kotick for doing things that maximize profit for the company… that's his job.

People hated Kotick long before the shitshow that happened last month. He literally said that he wanted to take the fun out of making video games and instill a corporate culture of skepticism, pessimism, and fear of an economic downturn. If you enjoy a proper dystopian nightmare scenario, then he's definitely your guy.

In a speech to investors he used words that would resonate well with them?!
Wow, that's scandalous! He should have reaffirmed their commitment to "fun" in making videogames that are buggy, unfinished messes which sell like shit and cause the developers to shut down, that would have been a homerun for sure.

As opposed to the tremendous incline that happened in the industry over the past decade thanks to corporate culture.

You ever think it might have been a result of all the failures caused by all that "fun", genius?

I'm not arguing as to the cause of the cultural shift, I'm arguing that it shouldn't be applauded since not much of value came from it, as evident by the grognardism that's shared by myself and many others on this board.

 

[Zombra]

Is it really a sequel in any meaningful sense? Looks like an entirely standalone story also.

What is required to be a "real sequel"? Does it have to be the continuing story of a single protagonist? Same setting, themes, and gameplay not enough for you? You'd better call GTA, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Fallout 1 & 2, Suikoden, Dark Souls ... basically every game series ever made. They've all made a horrible mistake!

basically every game you've listed shouldn't be given numeric sequels but their own sub-title

Why? Will you answer any of my questions above?

 

[Riddler]

tbf it would be cool to see Jack and/or Beckett again, at least

Beckett maybe.

Jack, Jeanette/Therese, VV, Nines, Bertram etc would be blatant pandering.

Why would Jack be Pandering? The others seem relatively tied to LA but Jack roams around and was behind the whole plot in BL1, him being involved in some way in what goes down in Seattle doesn't seem far fetched at all.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

rather than seeing old characters I am more worried about tranny fags getting inserted cause whitewolf's sjw agenda in the game.

 

[Lacrymas]

Isn't jack dead?

edit: It is heavily implied in the novel Gehenna: The Final Night that Smiling Jack meets his Final Death. He is killed by a Nosferatu named Okulos who was disguised as a vampire named Samuel; Jack let himself be killed to ensure that the thin-blood movement he helped start and raise would continue to fulfill Gehenna.

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Smiling_Jack

Maybe he fake it otherwise he die as a true sjw

Those books are considered non-canon afaik, since they all deal with possible scenarios during the apocalyptic Gehenna. Which didn't happen.

 

[ZVERMIX]

It's not clear that Activision ever owned any of the intellectual property in the first Bloodlines. They could just have a license to sell it.

Well they did issue a copyright infringement letter to the devs of Project Vaulderie, which was a modern remake of the Bloodlines. And apparently they had a legal case ready, which caused those guys to agree with 'cease and desist' right away.

 

[Grunker]

tbf it would be cool to see Jack and/or Beckett again, at least

Beckett maybe.

Jack, Jeanette/Therese, VV, Nines, Bertram etc would be blatant pandering.

I agree, but you know those are exactly who we're going to see. Jack especially, there's just no way in hell he won't be making at least a small cameo - I suspect a much larger role. To be fair, though, he, like Beckett, is very much a wanderer and wouldn't feel extremely out of place.

Ironically, political correctness may be what saves us from Jeaneatte (an awkward cameo anyway because they wouldn't be able to force a canon decision onto ppl. so she would probably be rewritten with some new defect that is a probable result of all choices in the original) and VV.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Odds on the cab driver returning?

 

[Grunker]

Smiling Jack became a prophet for Gehenna during the Time of Judgment.

Christ that's retarded. This is why no nevermind should be paid to 90% of the lore in P&P settings, especially WoD. Just use the brilliant core and the offshoots that work for you

 

[Ent]

Cabs are dead. He's probably an Uber or Lyft driver.

 

[Lacrymas]

VV makes me feel funny, tingling feelings in my pants, she definitely should come back. Don't give her extra clothing, though, no matter how contemporary and girl powah that would be.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Cabs are dead. He's probably an Uber or Lyft driver.

You wish. Taxis are kept alive through extensive lobbying and heavy regulations.

 

[Storyfag]

there are a few Redemption-related easter eggs in Bloodlines

There are? Do tell.

Grunker

 

[ZVERMIX]

tbf it would be cool to see Jack and/or Beckett again, at least

Jeanette/Therese, VV would be blatant pandering.

I for one see nothing wrong with pandering if it involves seeing those tits from my teenage days in glorious 2020 graphics.

 

[vota DC]

Odds on the cab driver returning?

He will come back chopping your hand and saying "I am your father of your father of your father of your father of your father of your father of your father of your father of your father of your father!"

 

[ZagorTeNej]

There are? Do tell.

"Wherefore art thou, Mercurio?"

 

[Herumor]

Isn't jack dead?

The old books about Gehenna aren't canon anymore. In Beckett's Jyhad Diary, Smiling Jack is alive. So to speak.

 

[Black]

By the way, I revisited Redemption by looking up its LPs on youtube and the music seemed familiar. Lo and behold, the composer for the early parts of the game was the same dude that did Wizardry 8. Redemption environments kinda remind me of Wiz 8 too.

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah, Redemption's soundtrack stands out a bit. It isn't mind-blowing or anything, but it's much better than usual, it creates an atmosphere. Anezka's theme and the music that plays during casual exploration of Prague in particular are unusual.

 

[Black]

I did warn you.

 

[Ent]

Cabs are dead. He's probably an Uber or Lyft driver.

You wish. Taxis are kept alive through extensive lobbying and heavy regulations.

Ehh I live in NYC and even with the regulation taxi's are slowly dying. My uncle even owns a taxi medallion and that thing has devalued from 1.5 mill to around 300K now. The convenience is just too great.

 

[Nano]

Do you people seriously think scantily-dressed women are considered politically incorrect? It's really the opposite, as long as the developer doesn't make it all about being for the male gaze and gives the female character some personality, it's seen as a female empowerment thing.

 

[Lacrymas]

VV has a personality, that's why she's sexy. Not a very complex or deep one, but it's there and she's perfect for a casual fling.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Do you people seriously think scantily-dressed women are considered politically incorrect? It's really the opposite, as long as the developer doesn't make it all about being for the male gaze and gives the female character some personality, it's seen as a female empowerment thing.

scantily-dressed attractive women are