World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[RaggleFraggle]

So I've been a Bloodlines fan since I played back in the 2000s and now I've written off the IP as cursed. Are there any other urban fantasy crpgs worth playing that have been released or are upcoming?

shadowrun dragonfall director's cut & shadowrun hong kong

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So I've been a Bloodlines fan since I played back in the 2000s and now I've written off the IP as cursed. Are there any other urban fantasy crpgs worth playing that have been released or are upcoming?

shadowrun dragonfall director's cut & shadowrun hong kong

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting?

basically the only game that fits is Secret World but they made it an MMO for whatever reason, guess you're out of luck

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

If they release this someday it still be worse than modded by Wesp Bloodlines. Paradox will turn this into dlc milking pile of crap.

 

[RaggleFraggle]

So I've been a Bloodlines fan since I played back in the 2000s and now I've written off the IP as cursed. Are there any other urban fantasy crpgs worth playing that have been released or are upcoming?

shadowrun dragonfall director's cut & shadowrun hong kong

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting?

basically the only game that fits is Secret World but they made it an MMO for whatever reason, guess you're out of luck

Thanks for trying. I would make the sort of games I would want to see if I had the requisite skill and funding. Sadly, game design was not my area of study and I'm not gonna upend my career just to make my dream games.

 

[Storyfag]

Wesp [or Wasp sorry dont remember]

His post is literally at the start of this page.

 

[Tyranicon]

Thinking about starting a betting pool for how many pages this thread will have before the game releases (if ever).

I'm thinking around 1000 pages, that sounds about right.

The fact that they haven't hard confirmed a dev for this project is nothing but bad news.

 

[Roguey]

The fact that they haven't hard confirmed a dev for this project is nothing but bad news.

I keep saying this is because they don't want people to dismiss it as a walking sim until they have something to show, and they don't want to repeat the mistake of announcing it too early. It could just get canceled again this time for good.

 

[hello friend]

So I've been a Bloodlines fan since I played back in the 2000s and now I've written off the IP as cursed. Are there any other urban fantasy crpgs worth playing that have been released or are upcoming?

shadowrun dragonfall director's cut & shadowrun hong kong

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting?

basically the only game that fits is Secret World but they made it an MMO for whatever reason, guess you're out of luck

Thanks for trying. I would make the sort of games I would want to see if I had the requisite skill and funding. Sadly, game design was not my area of study and I'm not gonna upend my career just to make my dream games.

Secret World is well worth playing despite shit combat and mmo gameplay. Damn shame.

 

[gerey]

I keep saying this is because they don't want people to dismiss it as a walking sim until they have something to show, and they don't want to repeat the mistake of announcing it too early. It could just get canceled again this time for good.

That's some strong copium.

What makes you think the project won't suffer from similar mismanagement issues as version 1.0? And even if it's not mismanaged, do Paradox even have anyone with the talent and passion necessary to do the IP justice, or is this going to be another anemic flop shoved out the door to cash in on the previous game's fame?

Far as I can tell Paradox have no clue what they're doing, and all the studios under their thrall are shovelware tier or asylums for woke clowns, so there is virtually no hope they'll make anything worthwhile.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

I am curious too. Western RPGs in contemporary setting are strangely nonexistent. Instead, If you don't mind JRPGs, there are a ton in contemporary setting (just one example: the Persona series).

 

[Roguey]

What makes you think the project won't suffer from similar mismanagement issues as version 1.0?

For externally developed games, we have reworked how we, going forward, invest in projects that are outside our core segments and how we collaborate with third-party developers. The investments will be monetarily smaller and managed by a dedicated team working outside the regular development organization. In parallel, we have reviewed the production process in order to be able to identify problems earlier and sharpen the focus of these collaborations. All in all, this means that we can act at a lower cost and with a lower risk while simultaneously enabling us to find new sources of revenue more efficiently.

It could be mismanaged again, which is why I said they could just cancel it. It'd be less embarrassing for all involved this time around though.

And even if it's not mismanaged, do Paradox even have anyone with the talent and passion necessary to do the IP justice, or is this going to be another anemic flop shoved out the door to cash in on the previous game's fame?

This is the entire game industry.

 

[Ismaul]

Bloodlines 2: You're the sucka

 

[Vincente]

Bloodlines 2: You're the sucka

Starring 2pacula.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

I am curious too. Western RPGs in contemporary setting are strangely nonexistent. Instead, If you don't mind JRPGs, there are a ton in contemporary setting (just one example: the Persona series).

This is one hell of a monkey's paw if I've ever seen one.

Ask yourself: do you really want western devs to be making anything set in contemporary times?

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

I am curious too. Western RPGs in contemporary setting are strangely nonexistent. Instead, If you don't mind JRPGs, there are a ton in contemporary setting (just one example: the Persona series).

This is one hell of a monkey's paw if I've ever seen one.

Ask yourself: do you really want western devs to be making anything set in contemporary times?

As a matter of fact I love contemporary setting with some elements of mystery/sci-fi/horror/fantasy (like Bloodlines), while I don't care too much about standard generic medieval fantasy settings.
I would like to see a full fledged RPG in these settings rather than a JRPG.

But I agree, It's 2022. I don't know if western devs could really do that in a proper way.

 

[Tyranicon]

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

I am curious too. Western RPGs in contemporary setting are strangely nonexistent. Instead, If you don't mind JRPGs, there are a ton in contemporary setting (just one example: the Persona series).

This is one hell of a monkey's paw if I've ever seen one.

Ask yourself: do you really want western devs to be making anything set in contemporary times?

We've seriously reached the cultural epoch when we're afraid of media that reflects our times.

Can this smilie go backwards?

 

[RaggleFraggle]

I think it’s possible to make a contemporary urban fantasy crpg without inserting obnoxious partisan messages. If we can do it for imaginary pasts and futures, then we should be able to do it for imaginary presents.

I don’t think the topic IP is suited for this, even if it wasn’t owned by Paradox. It has a blatantly partisan counterculture message baked into it since its inception three decades ago. Even the mechanics reflect this, with it being impossible to increase your magical power without literally cannibalizing the higher ups. “Eat the rich” indeed. The other games in the IP are no better in this regard: e.g. the werewolves are eco-terrorists and the wizards think science is bad/wrong.

If we want contemporary urban fantasy crpgs, then these will have to come from somewhere else. But that’s just my opinion after years of burnout

 

[Delterius]

diablerie is basically marxism

now i've seen everything

 

[J1M]

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

I am curious too. Western RPGs in contemporary setting are strangely nonexistent. Instead, If you don't mind JRPGs, there are a ton in contemporary setting (just one example: the Persona series).

This is one hell of a monkey's paw if I've ever seen one.

Ask yourself: do you really want western devs to be making anything set in contemporary times?

Every 50 pages or so I advocate for treating VtM as a period piece that remains set in the 90s.

Sidestepping contemporary politics is a nice side benefit.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Anything that takes place in a contemporary setting? Give or take a couple decades, I guess

I am curious too. Western RPGs in contemporary setting are strangely nonexistent. Instead, If you don't mind JRPGs, there are a ton in contemporary setting (just one example: the Persona series).

This is one hell of a monkey's paw if I've ever seen one.

Ask yourself: do you really want western devs to be making anything set in contemporary times?

Every 50 pages or so I advocate for treating VtM as a period piece that remains set in the 90s.

Sidestepping contemporary politics is a nice side benefit.

In before tards pretend a single throwaway line by an NPC or a reference in a newspaper is anything close to what happens in modern games.

Fully expecting vtmb2 to have drumpfler as the ventrue antagonist.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Every 50 pages or so I advocate for treating VtM as a period piece that remains set in the 90s.

The '90s are nice. No smartphone and social bullshits, but still contemporary.

 

[Roguey]

Every 50 pages or so I advocate for treating VtM as a period piece that remains set in the 90s.

Sidestepping contemporary politics is a nice side benefit.

As Netflix showed with Fear Street, period pieces written in the current year are not immune from current year political perspectives. There's no going back.

 

[J1M]

Every 50 pages or so I advocate for treating VtM as a period piece that remains set in the 90s.

Sidestepping contemporary politics is a nice side benefit.

As Netflix showed with Fear Street, period pieces written in the current year are not immune from current year political perspectives. There's no going back.

You can sabotage anything. A period piece provides cover for those who want it.

 

[Delterius]

Every 50 pages or so I advocate for treating VtM as a period piece that remains set in the 90s.

Sidestepping contemporary politics is a nice side benefit.

As Netflix showed with Fear Street, period pieces written in the current year are not immune from current year political perspectives. There's no going back.

You can sabatage anything. A period piece provides cover for those who want it.

you can sabbatage anything indeed.

eeeh eeeeeeeeeh

 

[Namesake]

It just occurred to me what they're going to do

VTMB - ReVamped
- Updated graphics
- Console Ports
- New Side Quests
- New Woke Characters
- $79.99

Perfect opportunity to snag some cash, rewrite problematic original content, secure a new and less critical zoomer audience for the eventual VTMB2

Actually somewhat impressed this hasn't happened yet