World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming early 2025

[ERYFKRAD]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up. Satanic black magic, sick shit.

Until the next daytime slumber, specifically.

So just skip the snooze?

 

[Storyfag]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up. Satanic black magic, sick shit.

Until the next daytime slumber, specifically.

So just skip the snooze?

Yes, that would prevent unconscious regeneration. But it'd also leave the vampire groggy and barely able to act, even once the Sun went down again.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up. Satanic black magic, sick shit.

Until the next daytime slumber, specifically.

So just skip the snooze?

Yes, that would prevent unconscious regeneration. But it'd also leave the vampire groggy and barely able to act, even once the Sun went down again.

 

[Bulo]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up.

What happens to the hair that's cut off?

 

[Roguey]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up. Satanic black magic, sick shit.

Until the next daytime slumber, specifically.

Like I said earlier, one can just handwave this away by assuming the character is cutting and styling their hair every time they wake up (scenes you don't actually see in-game, at least as far as the original Bloodlines goes).

Of course if Phyre wakes up looking like that, forget it. Lousy decision either way.

 

[Storyfag]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up.

What happens to the hair that's cut off?

Depends on the age of the vampire. Likely turns to very fine dust.

 

[Vincente]

Newly made vampire endangering the Masquerade by selling copious amounts of hair to barbers and hair stylists around the city, causing Masquerade threat.

 

[Wesp5]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

 

[just]

you can theorize all you want
in the end you'll play as zoomer lesbo

 

[sosmoflux]

I wonder what Brian thinks of all this

 

[Storyfag]

maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed.

Either that, or one of the many, many rituals of any of the multiple strains of Blood Sorcery. These and Thinblood Alchemy are big boxes of toys that can be used to handwave away almost anything.

 

[Storyfag]

I wonder what Brian thinks of all this

"But do they still use "sex worker" for prostitutes?"

 

[ChildInTime]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

She also mentions some bitch named Ysabella, who 'stole her power', so yeah, I guess just some sorcery ritual gone wrong (or right), and the thinblood was a sacrifice with some unintended side effects.

 

[Irxy]

Probably no playable Nosferatu because changing everything so that people act appropriately to seeing a Nossie takes too much effort.

I would guess that the stand-alone DLC will be a nosferatu campaign.

Kind of doubt it, Nosferatu don't seem like a clan with a wide target audience attraction.
I mean, it's cool to have them, but I'm pretty sure that if we make a popularity chart these guys would be at the bottom.
Frankly this clans dlc idea is kind of ridiculous for single player story rpg.

Imagine the pitch though: heeey so we have this sexy vampire fiction where you play the ancient hipster looking gaylord who's going to dominate all the loosers around him with amazing powers and suck them off dry. And for a modest 14.99$ fee will instead let you play as an ugly awkward sewer dwelling nerd! $$$

 

[ChildInTime]

Probably no playable Nosferatu because changing everything so that people act appropriately to seeing a Nossie takes too much effort.

I would guess that the stand-alone DLC will be a nosferatu campaign.

Kind of doubt it, Nosferatu don't seem like a clan with a wide target audience attraction.
I mean, it's cool to have them, but I'm pretty sure that if we make a popularity chart these guys would be at the bottom.
Frankly this clans dlc idea is kind of ridiculous for single player story rpg.

Maybe it'll be Tzimisce, just imagine fleshcrafting your own furniture and decorating your haven, can even sell cosmetics as dlc this way - 'You want this screaming chair or a bed that moans each time you lie on it?'

 

[Roguey]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

I don't see it. Fabien is a guy. It wouldn't be his body if you're playing as a woman. This kind of twist would only work if you were forced to play as a male Phyre (even if you did choose your gender as female in the beginning, which would actually be pretty amusing; there's a way to make an elder vampire trans right there)

I wonder what Brian thinks of all this

Drinking heavily because he lost this game and his nearly-decade-long marriage over all this.

Kind of doubt it, Nosferatu don't seem like a clan with a wide target audience attraction.
I mean, it's cool to have them, but I'm pretty sure that if we make a popularity chart these guys would be at the bottom.
Frankly this clans dlc idea is kind of ridiculous for single player story rpg.

DLC doesn't have to mean some short game, it could be a 10-12 hour expansion pack sequel where you play as a different character with unique mechanics. Hypothetically speaking, that would be a good way to manage scope, carrying over DLC clans to future sequels. Of course this is a "best of all possible worlds" scenario, given the nigh-universally negative reception the latest video got, we're looking at Paradox either never funding games like this again or filing bankruptcy after release.

 

[Storyfag]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

She also mentions some bitch named Ysabella, who 'stole her power', so yeah, I guess just some sorcery ritual gone wrong (or right), and the thinblood was a sacrifice with some unintended side effects.

Could be good old Infernalism, perhaps. Daemon worship and the power it grants. Big taboo in vampire society.

 

[Storyfag]

Probably no playable Nosferatu because changing everything so that people act appropriately to seeing a Nossie takes too much effort.

I would guess that the stand-alone DLC will be a nosferatu campaign.

Kind of doubt it, Nosferatu don't seem like a clan with a wide target audience attraction.
I mean, it's cool to have them, but I'm pretty sure that if we make a popularity chart these guys would be at the bottom.
Frankly this clans dlc idea is kind of ridiculous for single player story rpg.

Maybe it'll be Tzimisce, just imagine fleshcrafting your own furniture and decorating your haven, can even sell cosmetics as dlc this way - 'You want this screaming chair or a bed that moans each time you lie on it?'

 

[Delterius]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

That was my first guess. Now I'm thinking that Phyre woke up ravenous and consumed Fabien, who is a thinblood. Somehow Fabien stuck around and became a voice in Phyre's head. How Isabella and her power sapping ritual figures in is up in the air.

People used to speculate on wether the Mitsoda BL2 was gonna let you attain clan status by diablerie. It's like they took that mid-game plotpoint and turned it into its head.

 

[ColaWerewolf]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

It has to be Phyre's own body since Fabien is always a white male, meanwhile Phyre can be either a female or male of turkic origin.

Likely it was a plan by Fabien and a coterie of thinbloods to take revenge on fullbloods. In the dialogue transcript ripped from that one dev's monitor, you have Fabien say that they [thinbloods] take care of eachother unlike fullbloods. This is right after thinblood-allied ghouls storm some Camarilla holding. It seems like Fabien is part of their little terrorist group.

My speculation is that thinbloods intended to use their alchemy to weaken the sleeping elder, then have one of theirs inhabit the body and control the elder. Then use that elder to further their own goals. But something went wrong and the thinblood didn't manage to take control.

 

[RagingNomad]

Maybe some of you lore gurus can help me out. I had the theory, and people on Reddit as well, that Phyre is indeed in Fabien's body which would explain the modern hair. But then I rewatched the video and Phyre clearly talks about the mark on her hand and that she was covered in Thinblood vitae and not that she is in another body. So this theory is out, but maybe a Thinblood alchemy experiment failed. Anybody know anything about this?

It has to be Phyre's own body since Fabien is always a white male, meanwhile Phyre can be either a female or male of turkic origin.

Likely it was a plan by Fabien and a coterie of thinbloods to take revenge on fullbloods. In the dialogue transcript ripped from that one dev's monitor, you have Fabien say that they [thinbloods] take care of eachother unlike fullbloods. This is right after thinblood-allied ghouls storm some Camarilla holding. It seems like Fabien is part of their little terrorist group.

My speculation is that thinbloods intended to use their alchemy to weaken the sleeping elder, then have one of theirs inhabit the body and control the elder. Then use that elder to further their own goals. But something went wrong and the thinblood didn't manage to take control.

Wow, sounds interesting

 

[Storyfag]

Now I'm thinking that Phyre woke up ravenous and consumed Fabien, who is a thinblood. Somehow Fabien stuck around and became a voice in Phyre's head.

Tbh, this is a known side effect of diablerie. And happens often.

 

[NecroLord]

Now I'm thinking that Phyre woke up ravenous and consumed Fabien, who is a thinblood. Somehow Fabien stuck around and became a voice in Phyre's head.

Tbh, this is a known side effect of diablerie. And happens often.

Diablerie is pretty fucked up.
Most stupid Kindred who try it, especially on Elders, deserve to suffer its consequences...
I wouldn't allow it either in the game or as a Storyteller.

 

[Child of Malkav]

zoomer lesbo

Ahh, a new clan?

 

[Zombra]

Vampires can't cut their hair?

You can, for like 12 hours. Then it just grows back up. Satanic black magic, sick shit.

I assumed that since vampires are supposed to be dead, once it's gone it doesn't grow back, which would explain why nosferatu are all bald. Figured the other clans have some kind of dweomer to appear however they want to hypnotize victims.