Grand Strategy Victoria 3

[Demo.Graph]

The map is as retarded as ever. That Mid Asia. That US. That Russia. Even Aussie is totally colonized for some reason.

 

[Fedora Master]

Also the political map at game start (white being the decentralized countries that you can't play):

Grão-Pará is ahistorical here, the rebellion broke out on like January 6th 1835, it should't possess all of the north like that at gamestart. Would make more sense for it pop up as a rebellion in the 6th of January, but as license, having the rebellion own Belém and surrounding at game start would make far more sense.

Look man. Nobody has ever or will ever care about South American politics.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Also the political map at game start (white being the decentralized countries that you can't play):

Grão-Pará is ahistorical here, the rebellion broke out on like January 6th 1835, it should't possess all of the north like that at gamestart. Would make more sense for it pop up as a rebellion in the 6th of January, but as license, having the rebellion own Belém and surrounding at game start would make far more sense.

Look man. Nobody has ever or will ever care about South American politics.

They have and they do. I do. Therefore it matters.

 

[IDtenT]

I just want to play as Transvaal again.

 

[Hace El Oso]

I just want to play as Transvaal again.

Probably going to be my first game as well.

 

[HeroMarine]

Map of the various states (from the leak, so it might be tweaked by the time of release):

Oh wow finally a proper Grão-Pará with historical borders and... what the FUCK PARADOX!!

What the fuck is that abominable anachronistic "blue long Amapá"? Why Grão-Pará and Maranhão & Piaui are together in 1835? Why Tocantins (which was northern Goyaz at the time) is also part of it? Why Pará has modern-day borders? Why Goyaz (yes its spelt that way back then) and Mato Grosso are one province?!

MOTHERFUCKING PARADOX CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO GOOGLE FOR FIVE MINUTES
FUCK

Yeah, Brazil states look like trash.

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

 

[whydoibother]

But....
MODS WILL FIX IT!

 

[Heroic Liberator]

 

[Delterius]

What the fuck is that abominable anachronistic "blue long Amapá"?

look

rhode island had to be a state we can't pay attention to everything bro

 

[Heroic Liberator]

New meaty dev diary about the AI.

 

[None]

Roleplaying, not min-maxing: The AI in Victoria 3 should ‘roleplay’ rather than try to play optimally or ‘play like a player’.

This is code for "it's going to suck".

 

[thesecret1]

I think it's more that the AI can't play optimally or like a player. It's total dogshit that only gets worse with each game they release. They'll just throw in some simple condition like France not blobbing into Spain and instead focusing on Germany or something, call it the height of roleplaying and historical immersion, and be done with it.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Roleplaying, not min-maxing: The AI in Victoria 3 should ‘roleplay’ rather than try to play optimally or ‘play like a player’.

This is code for "it's going to suck".

There's a difference between the AI simulating Realpolitik and metagaming akin to how the devs have played in the various AARs and streams. IGs and the like should dictate state behavior to a much greater extent.

 

[None]

Roleplaying, not min-maxing: The AI in Victoria 3 should ‘roleplay’ rather than try to play optimally or ‘play like a player’.

This is code for "it's going to suck".

There's a difference between the AI simulating Realpolitik and metagaming akin to how the devs have played in the various AARs and streams. IGs and the like should dictate state behavior to a much greater extent.

You're right, I just don't buy the sales pitch that the AI was designed with "roleplaying" in mind. The ideal AI should play optimally and any issues with it being too gamey is an issue with the game. My only interest in buying this game is morbid curiosity, but I would not be surprised if we end up with a CK3 situation where the game is just way too easy, partly due to the AI.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

More or less agree, although in my case the main appeal - besides the time period that it's set in - is the interconnectivity between the various systems (economic, military and political). If nothing else, that alone makes it an upgrade over the EU series for me. And in lack of other games to play (RPGs aside, good releases being few and far between), guess that Vicky3 will become my new goto Paradox title when I'm in the mood for playing something.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And from a subsequent forum post, "Hmm. It may have been a less uneven affair than our understanding of it. It's too late to get it into release now but I'll revisit the topic with the other designers and see if it’s feasible to just represent it as a reactionary revolution."

 

[Catacombs]

And from a subsequent forum post, "Hmm. It may have been a less uneven affair than our understanding of it. It's too late to get it into release now but I'll revisit the topic with the other designers and see if it’s feasible to just represent it as a reactionary revolution."

Imagine arguing about this on Discord.

 

[Delterius]

Imagine arguing about this on Discord.

imagine not being an argumentative cunt just because you're outside the 'dex

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Imagine arguing about this on Discord.

imagine not being an argumentative cunt just because you're outside the 'dex

Dunno how much of an argumentative cunt you could be in such places. Usually they're just echo chambers for devs and their sycophants.

 

[Harthwain]

Dunno how much of an argumentative cunt you could be in such places. Usually they're just echo chambers for devs and their sycophants.

On Reddit serious/popular issues can easily gain traction. It is also possible to be argumentative there, you just can't be a cunt.

 

[Catacombs]

Imagine arguing about this on Discord.

imagine not being an argumentative cunt just because you're outside the 'dex

Dunno how much of an argumentative cunt you could be in such places. Usually they're just echo chambers for devs and their sycophants.

If devs heavily control the conversation and are unwilling to seriously consider good feedback, there's no point being there.

 

[Fedora Master]

Reddit serious/popular issues

Like "More female representation needed" and "Communism isn't historically accurate enough"

 

[Catacombs]

Reddit serious/popular issues

Like "More female representation needed" and "Communism isn't historically accurate enough"

Goodreads has its share of spam:

 

[Tigranes]

Looks just like the modern Codex!