Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun - W40K boomer shooter

[Gromoer]

This actually looks very good. I wish though they have picked some other races instead of the beaten to death SMs. Tau are my favs, though eldars would have worked as well, hell, or even Necrons to delve into the more creative fields.

I also kind of don’t understand the pixel art fatigue, I have more fatigue from the generic current 3D that posseses 0 individuality style-wise.

On the other hand, although I enjoy this type of games (Amid Evil, Synther, Prodeus) I tend to think they miss the opportunity to make the gameplay something more than just plain shooter. I mean I can’t care enough to waste my time just shooting at things. Give me story, character progression, inventory, but most importantly ways to approach a gameplay differentely.

 

[Stormcrowfleet]

Am I seeing right that some places will be locked until you kill all enemies like Doom 2016?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Give me story, character progression, inventory, but most importantly ways to approach a gameplay differentely.

how about fuck you

 

[Morenatsu.]

give me nonshit

 

[Infinitron]

 

[randir14]

All the guns have ejection ports and charging handles on the wrong side, and the shotgun shells spawn out of thin air. 0/10 will pirate.

 

[Jaedar]

All the guns have ejection ports and charging handles on the wrong side, and the shotgun shells spawn out of thin air. 0/10 will pirate.

Should bolters even have ejection ports? A bolt is a self propelling explosive projectile, is there even a casing to eject?

 

[Fedora Master]

All the guns have ejection ports and charging handles on the wrong side, and the shotgun shells spawn out of thin air. 0/10 will pirate.

Should bolters even have ejection ports? A bolt is a self propelling explosive projectile, is there even a casing to eject?

No, actually.
The basic idea was already tried irl by the way:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

 

[randir14]

All the guns have ejection ports and charging handles on the wrong side, and the shotgun shells spawn out of thin air. 0/10 will pirate.

Should bolters even have ejection ports? A bolt is a self propelling explosive projectile, is there even a casing to eject?

From what I read it's a two stage round where it fires like a normal bullet and ejects a shell, then the gyrojet kicks in after some distance.

 

[Jaedar]

All the guns have ejection ports and charging handles on the wrong side, and the shotgun shells spawn out of thin air. 0/10 will pirate.

Should bolters even have ejection ports? A bolt is a self propelling explosive projectile, is there even a casing to eject?

From what I read it's a two stage round where it fires like a normal bullet and ejects a shell, then the gyrojet kicks in after some distance.

That's a bit weird though, it's meant to be a weapon that can fire in all conditions, even the vacuum of space or underwater. I'm pretty sure conventional bullets need an oxygen atmosphere?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

They are rarely fired; ammunition, when available at all, can cost over $100 per round

Yup, sure sounds like a bolter.

 

[Tyranicon]

All the guns have ejection ports and charging handles on the wrong side, and the shotgun shells spawn out of thin air. 0/10 will pirate.

Should bolters even have ejection ports? A bolt is a self propelling explosive projectile, is there even a casing to eject?

From what I read it's a two stage round where it fires like a normal bullet and ejects a shell, then the gyrojet kicks in after some distance.

That's a bit weird though, it's meant to be a weapon that can fire in all conditions, even the vacuum of space or underwater. I'm pretty sure conventional bullets need an oxygen atmosphere?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

They are rarely fired; ammunition, when available at all, can cost over $100 per round

Yup, sure sounds like a bolter.

Most firearms don't need oxygen to fire, so unfortunately that one cool scene from Firefly is inaccurate unless they make firearms weird in the future.

Also, bolters do eject casings, with a two-phase propellant system, and is designed to be ambidextrous.

 

[orcinator]

That's a bit weird though, it's meant to be a weapon that can fire in all conditions, even the vacuum of space or underwater. I'm pretty sure conventional bullets need an oxygen atmosphere?

The shell casings modeled on the base are canon you smelly secondary.

 

[Jenkem]

I learned this game is an "interquel" between Space Marine 1 and 2...

 

[toughasnails]

 

[Lemming42]

Looks very standard... ugly graphics that aren't authentically 90s nor appealing by modern standards, big arena-y maps where enemies just surround you and you run around switching between weapons to blast them. nuDoom with shit graphics. Looks sort of like Prodeus in a lot of ways.

If throwback shooters have taught me anything it's that I vastly prefer the corridor-based design of Wolf3D/Doom/Marathon/etc to big arenas.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Buddy bought it and I was able to play his copy a smidge. Set it on the highest difficulty to give it a whirl and I'm not terribly impressed, sound and graphics are well done but the levels have been pretty boring and the worst part is the enemy AI is weirdly passive. It's great that everyone's firing projectiles you can dodge and circle strafe but Jesus, enemies almost just stand stationary and fire at you and let you bounce grenades off their heads. Maybe it's supposed to remind you of Doomguy running at a million miles an hour while the zombies barely shuffle but it seems even more pronounced in this. Was interested enough to download it and look at it but after having a taste I don't know if I care enough to finish it. Not terribly surprising but kind of a shame.

 

[Tyranicon]

I feel like there's some deepseated codex hate for boomer shooters, for reasons that I'm not aware of.

 

[Sjukob]

Buddy bought it and I was able to play his copy a smidge. Set it on the highest difficulty to give it a whirl and I'm not terribly impressed, sound and graphics are well done but the levels have been pretty boring and the worst part is the enemy AI is weirdly passive. It's great that everyone's firing projectiles you can dodge and circle strafe but Jesus, enemies almost just stand stationary and fire at you and let you bounce grenades off their heads. Maybe it's supposed to remind you of Doomguy running at a million miles an hour while the zombies barely shuffle but it seems even more pronounced in this. Was interested enough to download it and look at it but after having a taste I don't know if I care enough to finish it. Not terribly surprising but kind of a shame.

It's a common problem with all those new "retro FPS", and even modern games in general - catastrophic lack of difficulty and creative encounter design. There's basically no reason to play them instead of running some Doom wad or Quake mapset, that you can get for free. I've already talked about it before in greater detail, several times.

 

[Lemming42]

I feel like there's some deepseated codex hate for boomer shooters, for reasons that I'm not aware of.

It's mostly just that the scene has been a disappointment so far; they rarely if ever recapture the same level of quality as the games they're based on, and it's similarly rare of them to offer any improvements or modern sensibilities.

The only one I've really enjoyed fully and would rate alongside the 90s games is Ion Fury. There are some other very good ones (the recently-finished HROT being one, and Amid Evil being another) but by and large they seem to take more cues from nuDoom than they do from the likes of the Build games, and they all seem to have a strange affinity for arena-based design which is consistently not fun IMO.

The scene has been far from a waste of time and there's been a host of decent games too - Project Warlock, Supplice, DUSK, etc - but so far the whole throwback genre just isn't hitting the highs that it should be.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I'm still mildly shocked that this isn't a phone game.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

DUSK is great

And saying Doom and Quake are better fps than X because "you can download hundreds of awesome crazy wads", is effectively the equivalent of saying "Skyrim is one of the greatest RPG's of all time because you can play Enderal instead"

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

I must indeed be extra edgy, since when I'm seeing a post where someone rightfully criticizes these games and then names Ion Fury or Amid Evil as exceptions the only thing I'm thinking is "bruh, those are shite, too".

I think there's exactly one "boomer shooter" that's: well made technically, has fun and tight gameplay and does indeed feel like the source(s) of inspiration did all at the same time - Overload.

 

[randir14]

I like it for the most part, so far my only complaints are the same as what someone already mentioned - boring levels and passive enemies. Even the regular Chaos cultists are more aggressive than the Chaos Marines. The soundtrack is kind of interesting, almost like a mix of Turok 64 and Tommy Tallarico's Sega Genesis era.

 

[Fargus]

So, y'all purging the taint of chaos on PC, PS4|PS5, XBOX ONE, XBOX SERIES X|S and Nintendo Switch, fellow kids?

Is the game any good?