Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Slaver1]

wonder how far they were into making a starfinder game before it got canceled and they had to shop around at the last second

Seems to me they got to work quite quickly on this IP. Seems like just yesterday Owlcat were releasing WOTR in between one of the Baldurs Gate 3 Early Access patches where Larian were busy finetuning how many oil barrels they wanted on the Nautiloid deck because of a largely dissatisfied player base.

GW hands their IP out to anyone who asks, have you seen the absolute garbage published with their IPs?
no surprise that a dev known for making bad clones of already bad games was able to get a license to make another disaster

There's a growing consensus that Owlcat sidestepped disaster by avoiding the Starfinder route.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

wonder how far they were into making a starfinder game before it got canceled and they had to shop around at the last second

Seems to me they got to work quite quickly on this IP. Seems like just yesterday Owlcat were releasing WOTR in between one of the Baldurs Gate 3 Early Access patches where Larian were busy finetuning how many oil barrels they wanted on the Nautiloid deck because of a largely dissatisfied player base.

GW hands their IP out to anyone who asks, have you seen the absolute garbage published with their IPs?
no surprise that a dev known for making bad clones of already bad games was able to get a license to make another disaster

There's a growing consensus that Owlcat sidestepped disaster by avoiding the Starfinder route.

wotr was a disaster if you care about good games

 

[Slaver1]

wonder how far they were into making a starfinder game before it got canceled and they had to shop around at the last second

Seems to me they got to work quite quickly on this IP. Seems like just yesterday Owlcat were releasing WOTR in between one of the Baldurs Gate 3 Early Access patches where Larian were busy finetuning how many oil barrels they wanted on the Nautiloid deck because of a largely dissatisfied player base.

GW hands their IP out to anyone who asks, have you seen the absolute garbage published with their IPs?
no surprise that a dev known for making bad clones of already bad games was able to get a license to make another disaster

There's a growing consensus that Owlcat sidestepped disaster by avoiding the Starfinder route.

wotr was a disaster if you care about good games

WOTR was a disappointing follow-up to Kingmaker which was a decent game. Probably the best CRPG released in modern times even.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

wonder how far they were into making a starfinder game before it got canceled and they had to shop around at the last second

Seems to me they got to work quite quickly on this IP. Seems like just yesterday Owlcat were releasing WOTR in between one of the Baldurs Gate 3 Early Access patches where Larian were busy finetuning how many oil barrels they wanted on the Nautiloid deck because of a largely dissatisfied player base.

GW hands their IP out to anyone who asks, have you seen the absolute garbage published with their IPs?
no surprise that a dev known for making bad clones of already bad games was able to get a license to make another disaster

There's a growing consensus that Owlcat sidestepped disaster by avoiding the Starfinder route.

wotr was a disaster if you care about good games

WOTR was a disappointing follow-up to Kingmaker which was a decent game. Probably the best CRPG released in modern times even.

wotr was a disaster following a mediocre game that released unfinished and was about 80 hours too long

 

[Funposter]

wasn't expecting that

 

[Tyrr]

Owlcat folks seem too lazy to come up with their own original setting. They don't mind sharing the loot with other companies because of that.

gerey's post is absolutely correct.

Good world building isn't easy. Better use an already established great setting than make your own mediocre one.

I'm looking at you Obsidian.

 

[Haplo]

Rather excited about this.
Was hoping for some good WFRP cRPG for a long time. The only tabletop RPG I've played for a while when I was young. A WF 40k gem should be even better!

Hope the character building will be interesting. Owlcats definately delivered on that front before, so I hope they can do something interesting with this system also. Plus there is a lot of potential in the ship management and ship battle layers.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Having a xenos as a part of the Rogue Trader´s retinue is not unheard of

I have no issue with being given a choice to allow disgusting xenos into the party, my issue is that Owlcat will not account for the other possibility.

Good point. However since a Battle Sister is also available as a party member I wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up being mutually exclusive or at least caused drama if both were in the party (kinda like Miranda and Jack in ME2). Of course, if the Battle Sister ended up being a cosmopolitan multiculturalist deeply empathetic to the long suffering Eldar race... it would be bad. If so I am at the very least gonna bitch endlessly about it during the alpha.

 

[Humbaba]

Having a xenos as a part of the Rogue Trader´s retinue is not unheard of

I have no issue with being given a choice to allow disgusting xenos into the party, my issue is that Owlcat will not account for the other possibility.

Good point. However since a Battle Sister is also available as a party member I wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up being mutually exclusive or at least caused drama if both were in the party (kinda like Miranda and Jack in ME2). Of course, if the Battle Sister ended up being a cosmopolitan multiculturalist deeply empathetic to the long suffering Eldar race... it would be bad. If so I am at the very least gonna bitch endlessly about it during the alpha.

ITT lorelets having never heard about sanctioned xenos.

 

[ChildInTime]

Did they have to reuse the character models and animations from PF? They even have that same stupid slouch, I simply can't shake the feeling that it's just WotR with a Warhammer coat of paint on top, if we are talking purely graphics of course. Everything else like story, lore and atmosphere - yeah, I belive it will all be great.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Having a xenos as a part of the Rogue Trader´s retinue is not unheard of

I have no issue with being given a choice to allow disgusting xenos into the party, my issue is that Owlcat will not account for the other possibility.

Good point. However since a Battle Sister is also available as a party member I wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up being mutually exclusive or at least caused drama if both were in the party (kinda like Miranda and Jack in ME2). Of course, if the Battle Sister ended up being a cosmopolitan multiculturalist deeply empathetic to the long suffering Eldar race... it would be bad. If so I am at the very least gonna bitch endlessly about it during the alpha.

ITT lorelets having never heard about sanctioned xenos.

1/10 made me reply.

 

[Shadenuat]

Owlcat folks seem too lazy to come up with their own original setting. They don't mind sharing the loot with other companies because of that.

gerey's post is absolutely correct.

Good world building isn't easy. Better use an already established great setting than make your own mediocre one.

I'm looking at you Obsidian.

sadly it works both ways. settings are like holy cows of today, banks filled with gold nuggets. One british housewife imagination can affect millions, that's how hell of a power imagination really is. This is why corpos buy them out.
way it works both ways however, is these giants block the sun for everyone else. If you sit like a dragon on a mountain of gold like say Star Wars, and feed people with it all the time, why would they search for another space fantasy?

 

[Swen]

Probably the best CRPG released in modern times even

That would be DOS2 you peasant.

Owlcuck games don't even come close.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Also apparently you get a QT3,14 Eldar Pathfinder girl as a companion (inb4 interracial romance).

More like zoophilia, considering the Eldar think of humans as little more than hairless monkeys.

Mon'keigh isn't particularly subtle.

I expect very little from this game. Owlcat doesn't have the writers to make good 40k content that's dark and satirical at the right ratio. Them being a Russian studio trying to sell to a western audience won't help either.

 

[Kem0sabe]

 

[Thonius]

Oh shit I'm slow! Footage reminds me somehow of that badish dungeon in Wrath. Owlcats haters on suicide watch!

 

[Tyrr]

Owlcat folks seem too lazy to come up with their own original setting. They don't mind sharing the loot with other companies because of that.

gerey's post is absolutely correct.

Good world building isn't easy. Better use an already established great setting than make your own mediocre one.

I'm looking at you Obsidian.

sadly it works both ways. settings are like holy cows of today, banks filled with gold nuggets. One british housewife imagination can affect millions, that's how hell of a power imagination really is. This is why corpos buy them out.
way it works both ways however, is these giants block the sun for everyone else. If you sit like a dragon on a mountain of gold like say Star Wars, and feed people with it all the time, why would they search for another space fantasy?

I'm just saying: focus on your strengths. Not every video game developer has the resources or ability to create a (good) new RPG setting. Such a setting needs much more depth than one for other games. You also need a lot of time to create everything on your own (wasn't DA:O developed for 6+ years?). Save that time for creating the story and characters.

 

[Thonius]

Anyone knows where those cartoon bits from that video are from?

 

[luj1]

recommending absolute trash tier "dark ages of rpgs" shit like NWN lol

you are an idiot

Nwn absolutely shits on Pathfinder games on 2 merits alone

- it has traditional quest structure and doesnt use a barebone facebook minigame to facilitate core gameplay
- classes feel distinct and dont bleed into each other like having 1000 low effort subclasses (barbarian without rage, paladin without lay on hands, etc.)


Oh and ofc it isnt woke, you can kill children and rape

 

[luj1]

...still Owlcat Pathfinder's build porn and combat is in another league.

if you are a hipster cuck with low standards, yes

The builporn of Pathfinder games is about using quantity to mask the lack of quality and distinctiveness of classes. All of these games shit on Pathfinder buildporn: KotC 2, Wizardry 6-8, Underrail, NwN, Dark Sun, ToEE

 

[Delterius]

Nwn absolutely shits

i agree. of course it shits on everything. its a shit elemental.

 

[Cyberarmy]

This thread in a nutshell.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Since the game page is pretty heavy on pre-order crap and pretty light on actual game details, have anyone said anything about the rules set in this one? Is it going to be an Owlcat homebrew? Are they adapting a pre-existing rulebook? I suppose they wouldn't be able to use the FFG stuff and the only thing that GW has that comes even remotely close would be either Inquisitor, or maybe the old WFRP rules.

 

[Thonius]

This thread in a nutshell.

Fake news! It's going to be great! This summer will be the best!

 

[Delterius]

Since the game page is pretty heavy on pre-order crap and pretty light on actual game details, have anyone said anything about the rules set in this one? Is it going to be an Owlcat homebrew? Are they adapting a pre-existing rulebook? I suppose they wouldn't be able to use the FFG stuff and the only thing that GW has that comes even remotely close would be either Inquisitor, or maybe the old WFRP rules.

the pathfinder ruleset

rogue trader won't just be a jeff vogel killer, but an 'oblivion with space guns' killer as well