Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Wirdschowerdn]

Morgoth, please... for the love of all that is holy, stop pasting FEXTRALIFE clickbait garbage...

It barely qualifies as an opinion.

Barely heard of his channel. But after finishing watching the video and his bitching about lack of VO, your wish shall be granted.

 

[Koolz]

ohh wow ...oh shit shit space battles. Fully Voiced Mwhahaha are you crazy! that would make this game how may gigs? 100s?

Thanks for this!

 

[Tyranicon]

Infinitron I need to save money for my vampire titty game.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Wait I'm out of the loop, there's a playable alpha about to release?

Yeah, but following a long Owlcat tradition, it's only for people willing to pay robbery-tier price.

 

[Koolz]

I only would like to play the Alpha so I my give opinions and what to do better. Start with the ship battles which need to be in a better view and in space. I have to check out some games. There are some 40k Warship games.

I also want to see some real horror in this game and the atmosphere to go with it. Combination of story telling, atmosphere because of the place(Say finding Space hulk and murder that involves a companion etc) and also the music low tone dark atmospheric, pads.

I looks really good though. Watching this youtube vid without sound.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

But after finishing watching the video and his bitching about lack of VO, your wish shall be granted.

He makes a reasonable point, actually.

Wrath of the Righteous was pretty damn weird in that sense, too, since there were sizable portions of the game that were basically fully voiced and other where there was hardly a single voiced line.
If you go out of your way to voice 45-50% of your game, you may as well do the extra step and do the full thing. It comes at an additional cost, sure, but there are arguments to be made about how a fully voiced game basically repays itself just with the increase in audience that this can bring.

Josh Sawyer in his post mortem of POE II was one of the first to point that , for instance, streamers hate to keep playing games with large amount of non-voiced dialogue, because that usually translates with having to read the line aloud to their audience, which gets fucking exhausting on the long run.
And if streamers/youtubers are not playing something, that's a lot less organic advertising you'll get.

But I know you gaming luddites don't want to hear it.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Baldur's Gate already solved this a million years ago. Have the first line voiced to imprint your imagination, read the rest to expand it.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Baldur's Gate already solved this a million years ago. Have the first line voiced to imprint your imagination, read the rest to expand it.

That doesn't really address any of the points I made.

But I can also predict the next attempt: "Waaah, waaah, I read faster than the actor recites his lines anyway". Which is a pointless argument as well, since it has some merit only when the voice acting is bad enough that you want to skip it.
Otherwise a good performance is undeniably added value, because an actor can define a character with it.
Auntie Ethiel in BG3 Early Access is definitely an example of a character that is enriched by the voice performance behind it, for instance.

Somehow this bias seems to apply just selectively to some games and not other ones, too. Wonder how people would feel about a Vampire Bloodlines sequel ( and I mean one that 1- is actually good 2-actually exists) if it was text only.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Widespread consensus that the space combat feature is the worst shit owlcat has ever designed, that makes the pathfinder overworld campaigns look like masterpieces

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Widespread consensus that the space combat feature is the worst shit owlcat has ever designed, that makes the pathfinder overworld campaigns look like masterpieces

From other previews, you mean?

 

[Fedora Master]

You should know how they design their secondary mechanics by now.

I guarantee you they still haven't learned shit from Wrath and its Crusade Mode, or the awful loading screens.

 

[Peachcurl]

I have to say the space battles look very meh. Other stuff looking good.

 

[Kem0sabe]

https://youtu.be/jxY8asSigdM

 

[frajaq]

I have to say the space battles look very meh. Other stuff looking good.

reminder that a fair amount of players of the table-top RPG used fan-made rules for ship combat because the ones FFG made were horrible and broken

 

[0sacred]

yeah space battles looking way better than Kingmaker's and WotR's minigames

 

[SpaceWizardz]

~3 hours of gameplay on twitch:

 

[Tyranicon]

Josh Sawyer in his post mortem of POE II was one of the first to point that , for instance, streamers hate to keep playing games with large amount of non-voiced dialogue, because that usually translates with having to read the line aloud to their audience, which gets fucking exhausting on the long run.
And if streamers/youtubers are not playing something, that's a lot less organic advertising you'll get.

But I know you gaming luddites don't want to hear it.

Look I'm not saying you're wrong, and the opinion of one tiny indie dev against basically the entire industry is worth essentially nothing...

But fuck streamers. Fuck everybody catering to streamers. Fuck the people who watch streamers nonstop instead of experiencing their own media.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Mortismal gaming video should be up today. I'll just watch that

 

[santino27]

Wait I'm out of the loop, there's a playable alpha about to release?

Yeah, but following a long Owlcat tradition, it's only for people willing to pay robbery-tier price.

And they'll likely ignore most feedback given.

 

[ChildInTime]

So no psyker for the MC. Into the trash it goes.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Footage w/o commentary.

 

[Grunker]

Owlcat's commitment to at best superflous and at worst horrifyingly detracting secondary systems is at this point almost admirable. The retard strength necessary to insist on making that stuff even though everyone hates it is impressive, as is making each new iteration worse than the last

 

[InD_ImaginE]

It's amazing that in 3 games, Kingdom Management managed to be the best one.

 

[Fedora Master]

It's amazing that in 3 games, Kingdom Management managed to be the best one.

And by best you mean "least annoying" I presume.

 

[randir14]

That performance is unacceptable and "it's still alpha" isn't an excuse. Baldur's Gate 3 is also in alpha and has both looked and performed better ever since its first early access build. Look at WOTR's fourth act to get a preview of how shitty Rogue Trader will run at release.