Wasteland Wasteland 2 Thread - Director's Cut

Kem0sabe · Oct 12, 2015

Intinium said:
What story of the big recent cRPGs(Underrail, D:OS, Shadowrun, PoE, WL2, Blackguards etc.) did you find the most engaging, overall? Not just the writing, but mainly storywise.

AoD, the Witcher 3, Dragonfall, all of them have better writing, better quests, better characters than anything wasteland 2 managed.

IHaveHugeNick · Oct 12, 2015

Dragonfall had writing? Sorry, I must have clicked through it all, right the 5th time when it attacked me with wall of text when I was just trying to ask for toilet paper.

Roguey · Oct 13, 2015

You seriously can't believe any part of Shadowrun had better quest design than any settlement in California.

Kem0sabe · Oct 13, 2015

Roguey said:
You seriously can't believe any part of Shadowrun had better quest design than any settlement in California.

In terms of writing, yes, in terms of the quest design, namely reactivity, then no.

Crichton · Oct 13, 2015

Roguey said:
You seriously can't believe any part of Shadowrun had better quest design than any settlement in California.

I would say that every part of Shadowrun: Returns, all three campaigns, up to and including the "Giant bugs from another dimension" part is superior to storylines like:

"OH NOEZ! the CYBORGS are coming!!!!!!"
"OH NOEZ! a giant robot scorpion is attacking my house!!!"
"OH NOEZ! meth junkies are infesting the sewers!!"
"Quick, patch the fence before more NUCULAR DAWGS get through!!!!"

To be fair, I gave up part way through infiltrating the fortress of redneck holy rollers so maybe there's some startling writing at the end to make up for all this crap but it's pretty hard to credit. For all the lip service given to reactivity, I can't think of one time in W2 where I was given the chance to do anything cool. I generally just gave up and shot everyone; sometimes they had loot on them, you always got at least a little XP and it's like Sarah Conner says, they're all dead anyway.

'Wasteland 2: Kill all the NPCs before the bullshit scripted events do!'

Roguey · Oct 13, 2015

Duggan was hilarious, sorry you prefer Bioware-esque writing.

Jimmious · Oct 13, 2015

Writing in games doesn't need to be "startling" to be good. It needs to fit the tone and accomplish its goals. Writing in the Shadowruns imo was often too bland and unjustifiably over analyzing.
Wastelands writing just fits the mood of the game better.
And no, not all quests are kill these guys or they will die.

Crichton · Oct 13, 2015

"Fit the tone"? What tone or mood is W2 writing intended to fit? Lost in Space meets Hee Haw?

"Sure as shootin' ya'll better not waste time tryin' to save all them yokels"

Country_Gravy · Oct 13, 2015

Both Lost in Space and Hee Haw had better writing.

Rhapsody'n Blue · Oct 13, 2015

Intinium said:
What story of the big recent cRPGs(Underrail, D:OS, Shadowrun, PoE, WL2, Blackguards etc.) did you find the most engaging, overall? Not just the writing, but mainly storywise.

Bloody Baron quest in Witcher 3 had fabulous writing. Not in grandiose philosophic discussions, but in conveying a complex personality through the various twists and turns of the narrative. I'm apparently not alone in this belief either: http://www.pcgamer.com/how-the-witcher-3s-best-quest-was-made/

In a more traditional sense, like how I'd say Murakami or Jonathan Franzen were good writers, I'd give that award to Shadowrun. I never played enough Wasteland 2 to put it through the comparative lens, but Shadowrun was certainly to the literary fiction level than most games. Its failing was more in structure (and lack of reactivity), but the descriptive writing and dialogs kept me motivated to keep playing.

prodigydancer · Oct 13, 2015

DC isn't even released yet and the thread is already choke full of shitposting edgelords. If you people were so disappointed with WL2 is the first place why are you still here?

BBMorti · Oct 13, 2015

prodigydancer said:
DC isn't even released yet and the thread is already choke full of shitposting edgelords. If you people were so disappointed with WL2 is the first place why are you still here?

You are setting yourself up by making it so evident that you are a newfag.

butchy · Oct 13, 2015

I, for one, am very excited for the patch. The new traits and changes to combat should easily place this game in the top 10 crpgs of all time unless it has all been a lie and there are no traits or improvements to combat as they stated.

Darth Roxor · Oct 13, 2015

You niggas here claim that WL2 didn't have stupidly long walls of text?

Daedalos · Oct 13, 2015

Kem0sabe said:
AoD, the Witcher 3, Dragonfall, all of them have better writing, better quests, better characters than anything wasteland 2 managed.

I wouldn't classify Witcher 3 as hardcore cRPG in line with the others mentioned, but okay.

I can't figure out why you like Shadowrun over WL2 in terms of writing and story, I found that game really forgettable and boring in terms of overall story and writing as I clicked through most of it in pure boredom and blandness.

AoD isn't out yet, so I haven't played it to comment on that.

ArchAngel · Oct 13, 2015

Intinium said:
I wouldn't classify Witcher 3 as hardcore cRPG in line with the others mentioned, but okay.

I can't figure out why you like Shadowrun over WL2 in terms of writing and story, I found that game really forgettable and boring in terms of overall story and writing as I clicked through most of it in pure boredom and blandness.

AoD isn't out yet, so I haven't played it to comment on that.

Because you are a heartshit casual fag.