KickStarter We need more buttons

[Humbaba]

We have a guy who will work FOR FREE to replace some of these early 2000's ass icons, what's even the problem?

 

[Morenatsu.]

We have a guy who will work FOR FREE to replace some of these early 2000's ass icons, what's even the problem?

The only thing better than early 2000s is late 90s.

 

[Ismaul]

We have a guy who will work FOR FREE to replace some of these early 2000's ass icons, what's even the problem?

Quality

 

[Hirato]

The animated reactions are the key reason behind this site's performance woes, so the last thing we need is for even more of them to be animated.
I wonder if there's any merit to merging them into a sprite sheet, like the original ratings were:

 

[Morenatsu.]

bro get off your phucking potato fone and use a real pc, there are NO performance issues

 

[Zizka]

Quality

Ismaul
I think you’re being disingenuous/dishonest here. I question your integrity.

I’ve unblocked you because I know you can give constructive feedback (you have), that is point out the shortcomings if applicable.

I therefore challenge you to point out the flaws of this and how it’s worse than the current “fishy” button.

I've reworked the fish some:

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I mean, actual flaws, like palette, perspective and so on. By all means, rip it apart. I’ll make any changes you bring up so that it meets your quality standards, whatever they might be. I’ve asked professional artists and they all tell me it’s fine so it’ll be interesting to find out.

 

[Semiurge]

Fuck I thought the fish was smoking a cigarrette.

 

[Peachcurl]

Can we at least get Zizka 's cope and fishy button implemented? The cope one would be new, so no one should get butthurt, and I doubt the fishy one has any hardcore fans.

 

[Semiurge]

I second that sentiment. The wanking Dixon could be thrown in as a bonus.

 

[Ghulgothas]

Some useful reference if you're gonna keep working with the Codex Troll, look up some images of Dungeon Keeper 1's control-panel/user interface.

Spoiler

More pronounced horns for stronger silhouette, and simpler, beadier-eyes to aid in the clarity of his expressions. Good color balance, too.

I've reworked the fish some:

Above anything, I prefer the animation on this one. I respect your dedication to flexing by making your works as animated and livid as possible, but the more downplayed movement and subtle detail fits it's function as a forum button a bit better.

 

[Zombra]

Ghulgothas'

Copium is way better than Zlakzka's. (And yes, I still think the blue is better than green.)
Also, the first Zlalksa Fishy

is better than the supercharged overproduced tail-flipping one. Really though current Fishy is fine.

 

[Ismaul]

Quality

Ismaul
I think you’re being disingenuous/dishonest here. I question your integrity.

I’ve unblocked you because I know you can give constructive feedback (you have), that is point out the shortcomings if applicable.

I therefore challenge you to point out the flaws of this and how it’s worse than the current “fishy” button.

I've reworked the fish some:

vs

I mean, actual flaws, like palette, perspective and so on. By all means, rip it apart. I’ll make any changes you bring up so that it meets your quality standards, whatever they might be. I’ve asked professional artists and they all tell me it’s fine so it’ll be interesting to find out.

Such a challenge. You pick the only button that isn't egregious among yours. You know what you're doing here.

I don't really care about the fishy button, I've only commented on your trolls. Anyways, yours is competent enough, more technical and realistic than the original. But is it better as a button? for its function? Not really. Here are some reasons:

1. The animation. If you look at existing buttons, there is animation when it serves a function. That laughing dude is animated because it conveys meaning about the button better. Let's apply that to the fishy button. What information does the animation on your fish convey? Nothing. It is purely cosmetic, as if buttons were made to be admired. But in this case, this slight movement of the button is more of a distraction than a help, an attention trap. But buttons are not what we want the user to focus their attention on, it's the text. Better without it, for its function.

2. The realism. Fishy is supposed to be fishy. It is supposed to convey the meaning "something's not right" or "smells bad". Yours is just a fish, too realistic. It is "too right". The less realistic version is better suited to expressing a nonliteral meaning. It looks fishy itself.

 

[Morenatsu.]

Current fishy has better contrast with the background colours.

 

[catfood]

Zizka should apply for work at Blizzard. I hear they like the garish look.

 

[Semiurge]

The angry wanker stands out from the background fine.

 

[d1r]

You mean that, despite all the trolling, I’m only ignored by three people?! Even with a wanking Dixon smiley?

I’m saying three because Zombra can’t commit to anything, it’s not in his nature. He’ll say he’s putting you on ignore for dramatic effect and then keep quietly and rating everything you do. He might even reply to this right here, poor guy.

I’m getting closer to the 50 ‘stop posting’ milestone:

Keep it up, it didn’t work the first 43 times, maybe I’ll start doing what you tell me to do at 44? Ironically, if people ignored everything I say and do, I’d just stop. How long before they figure it out now that it’s been spelled out for them I wonder?

Not blocked by aweigh? Wowzers!

 

[Modron]

Not blocked by aweigh? Wowzers!

Couldn't even get Lutte to ignore him.

 

[Zizka]

1. The animation. If you look at existing buttons, there is animation when it serves a function. That laughing dude is animated because it conveys meaning about the button better. Let's apply that to the fishy button. What information does the animation on your fish convey? Nothing. It is purely cosmetic, as if buttons were made to be admired. But in this case, this slight movement of the button is more of a distraction than a help, an attention trap. But buttons are not what we want the user to focus their attention on, it's the text. Better without it, for its function.

2. The realism. Fishy is supposed to be fishy. It is supposed to convey the meaning "something's not right" or "smells bad". Yours is just a fish, too realistic. It is "too right". The less realistic version is better suited to expressing a nonliteral meaning. It looks fishy itself.

That’s probably the best constructive criticism I’ve gotten in the whole thread and all I ever asked for in the first place. It’s not about quality however, but rather style. If anything, it’s “over qualified”.

Regarding the complexity of animation, the current buttons go from 2 frames to a few more (excited button). I figured two frames would be ok for each button but I can concede that it serves no purpose for fishy.

Such a challenge. You pick the only button that isn't egregious among yours. You know what you're doing here.

Well considering you were telling me to fuck off a message ago, I figured you wouldn’t be much inclined to give me critique about all of my buttons. If you are here’s an updated challenge: Which one of those is lacking in quality (as opposed to style)?

I think my “angry Dixon” is better in every way to the current one. Might have too many frames. One way to deal with this could be to only animated if it’s been selected and static otherwise.

Stop Sign:

Skulls:

Salute:

Thanks:

Informative:

Various style research:

Trophees:

 

[fantadomat]

 

[Morenatsu.]

style is quality

 

[Humbaba]

I think my “angry Dixon” is better in every way to the current one. Might have too many frames. One way to deal with this could be to only animated if it’s been selected and static otherwise.

Speed it up so it looks real funny when he bashes his desk at mach speed.

Salute:

Could he salute a bit less uh violently? It looks like he's hitting himself on the forehead. Also he should do the sieg heil, it conveys kkkodex kultur

 

[Ismaul]

considering you were telling me to fuck off a message ago

I say this to all the girls.

That’s probably the best constructive criticism I’ve gotten in the whole thread and all I ever asked for in the first place.

I gave you plenty earlier, but you were ignoring me, or ignored me for it.

If you are here’s an updated challenge: Which one of those is lacking in quality (as opposed to style)?

You mean technical quality? You're the pixel artist, man.

 

[Zizka]

Speed it up so it looks real funny when he bashes his desk at mach speed.

The best I can do is to remove a couple of frames to make it faster:

or make the animation last longer:

 

[Humbaba]

Could you also remove the frames where he stops pounding so it looks like he is very comedically bashing and yelling non-stop?

 

[Zizka]

I can although it might be too much:

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