KickStarter We need more buttons

[Ol' Willy]

H.

That's a good one for different uses

 

[Zizka]

It's a mystery:

A.

B.

C.

D.

E.

F.

G.

H.

I.

J.

K.

L.

M.

N.

O.

Discarded concepts:

and

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

expressions look goof

 

[Ismaul]

It's a mystery:

A.

B.

C.

D.

E.

F.

G.

H.

I.

J.

K.

L.

M.

N.

O.

Discarded concepts:

and

Your discarded concepts are better, because they're better at conveying the meaning of ignoring the cause of something. Yes the ?? as eyes make it clearer, not because it's a good idea, but because the other shapes fail at converying ignorance. All of them.

You need to know a bit about how humans and animals use their bodies to express meaning to be able to portray it in a manner that others can recognize, especially in a small size where a misplaced pixel completely destroys the percieved meaning.

Let's break it down. That act portrayed here

is the shrug. When we do it, those features are usually central: open palms, raised shoulders, pursed lips, raised eyebrows, eyes to one side. There's also an aspect of surprise to this button, which means wide open eyes and open mouth. All this is not obvious to do at a small size, so the arms, eyes and mouth must be just right.

Now let's look at your ghosts. Because of perspective, they don't look like they have their shoulders up or are presenting their palms. Take this one for example,

he looks like he has his hands up front, presenting the two cellphones he's trying to sell. We percieve this as the hands being forward because the hands are bigger than the arm and shoulder, which we read as being a perspective effect. It looks like this:

Compare with the original:

. The original has his arms fully extended, so we know his hands are to the side, not forward, and it's obvious from the drawing that the palms are open towards us. None of your ghosts displays this, yet it it essential to convey ignorance at this size, since raised shoulders are much harder to show clearly.

I mean seriously how can you Zizka pretend to make meaning-conveying buttons when you don't even know the expressions you're trying to convey?

It's the same with the eyes and mouth. Look at this guy again:

. Notice how the "tail" is to the left, and the eyes are to the right? That's intentional: the eyes can't just be to any one side, they're opposite his center of gravity. They go where he is less firm in his position. In other words, eyes and mind are in a state of disequilibrium. And that portrays uncertainty, physically. The eyes on your buttons are whatever, sometimes googly-eyes, sometimes retarded eyes, it just fails at functionally conveying the intended meaning.

It seems to me that knowing how to create pixel art isn't sufficient to be able to make good buttons, because it also requires being able to distill complex human expressions in a very small number of pixels.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

AND THATS WHY THE GHOST BUTTON WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT IS JUST FINE

 

[bionicman]

The ghost button should be canned altogether tbh.

 

[Semiurge]

Your discarded concepts are better, because they're better at conveying the meaning of ignoring the cause of something. Yes the ?? as eyes make it clearer, not because it's a good idea, but because the other shapes fail at converying ignorance. All of them.

You need to know a bit about how humans and animals use their bodies to express meaning to be able to portray it in a manner that others can recognize, especially in a small size where a misplaced pixel completely destroys the percieved meaning.

Let's break it down. That act portrayed here

is the shrug. When we do it, those features are usually central: open palms, raised shoulders, pursed lips, raised eyebrows, eyes to one side. There's also an aspect of surprise to this button, which means wide open eyes and open mouth. All this is not obvious to do at a small size, so the arms, eyes and mouth must be just right.

Now let's look at your ghosts. Because of perspective, they don't look like they have their shoulders up or are presenting their palms. Take this one for example,

he looks like he has his hands up front, presenting the two cellphones he's trying to sell. We percieve this as the hands being forward because the hands are bigger than the arm and shoulder, which we read as being a perspective effect. It looks like this:



Compare with the original:

. The original has his arms fully extended, so we know his hands are to the side, not forward, and it's obvious from the drawing that the palms are open towards us. None of your ghosts displays this, yet it it essential to convey ignorance at this size, since raised shoulders are much harder to show clearly.

I mean seriously how can you Zizka pretend to make meaning-conveying buttons when you don't even know the expressions you're trying to convey?

It's the same with the eyes and mouth. Look at this guy again:

. Notice how the "tail" is to the left, and the eyes are to the right? That's intentional: the eyes can't just be to any one side, they're opposite his center of gravity. They go where he is less firm in his position. In other words, eyes and mind are in a state of disequilibrium. And that portrays uncertainty, physically. The eyes on your buttons are whatever, sometimes googly-eyes, sometimes retarded eyes, it just fails at functionally conveying the intended meaning.

It seems to me that knowing how to create pixel art isn't sufficient to be able to make good buttons, because it also requires being able to distill complex human expressions in a very small number of pixels.

That's a decent break down, but you forgot the most important point - the mystery ghost is an oldish, recognizable meme. It's not from a game, but suffices better than something generic. Neither the phrase nor image should be replaced, or else the impact is lost.

The ghost button should be canned altogether tbh.

No, we only need a skeleton button and we'd have three different undeads.

 

[Skinwalker]

There's really no button that is badly in need of replacement, other than "funny". Some could benefit from some remastering because they're blurry. Also, don't touch the ghost, and add the coof back in.

 

[Zizka]

That's a decent break down, but you forgot the most important point - the mystery ghost is an oldish, recognizable meme. It's not from a game, but suffices better than something generic.

Yes, that's fair. I don't think it's my best one for sure. I admit I didn't capture the same feeling as the original on this one. Thankfully, the ''It was the Aliens'' is much better.

There's really no button that is badly in need of replacement, other than "funny".

Yes, this is the third time you've said this. I understand your opinion, let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

It was the Aliens:

A.

or

B.

or

or

C.

or

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

lacking the star of david in the background or on their foreheads. Because the aliens are not the aliens you thinking of.

 

[Semiurge]

lacking the star of david in the background or on their foreheads. Because the aliens are not the aliens you thinking of.

Without the star they're also suitable for rating weaboo shit. Or at least the original is.

 

[Zizka]

Without the star they're also suitable for rating weaboo shit. Or at least the original is.

Do you have any critique for my versions?

 

[Skinwalker]

Do you have any critique for my versions?

They're worse than the original and also completely unnecessary.

 

[Zizka]

Maximus, I've added you to my ignore list. I have a strict no cunt policy. Also, I thought your parroting the same comment over and over again was getting tedious. Feel free to join the button pushers.

A few more versions:

D.

E.

F.

G.

H.

I.

J.

K.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

D looks ok-ish but size issue.

 

[Skinwalker]

Maximus, I've added you to my ignore list.

Yes but you still can't draw.

 

[Zombra]

Unsubscribed from thread. We don't need more buttons, DarkUnderlord; turns out the parade was perfected around the beginning of March. Thank you for your service.

 

[Modron]

A man only needs 5 buttons: brofists, yes/no, citation needed, and prosper.

 

[Abu Antar]

 

[Humbaba]

A man only needs 5 buttons: brofists, yes/no, citation needed, and prosper.

You forgot butthurt, the be all end all counter to any and all opposition.

 

[ELEXmakesMeHard]

There ought to be more pepes!

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

There ought to be more pepes!

We would have more Pepe, if only my copium rating were added:

or alternatively

 

[fork]

We need happy Pepes, not this depressing shit.

 

[Morenatsu.]

While you're at it, add the whole collection of Twitch emotes.

 

[Semiurge]

Without the star they're also suitable for rating weaboo shit. Or at least the original is.

Do you have any critique for my versions?

Some of your buttons I like (bleeding eyes, monocle troll, fish, angry nerd), but you should approach them like road signs - more detailed is not necessarily better at conveying "the message". You don't need to design them as you would for a game.