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Zed Duke of Banville

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I tried so hard to get into Elden Ring for a good few hours. I really couldn't. Game feels like you are in some kind of dream. Story is almost nonexistent, there are very few npc's with cryptic monologues and that's all about them. Basicly everything attack you on sight.
:hmmm: Since you've evidently never played a Souls game before, I recommend trying Demon's Souls or the first Dark Souls, before plunging into the immensity of Elden Ring.
 

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I tried so hard to get into Elden Ring for a good few hours. I really couldn't. Game feels like you are in some kind of dream. Story is almost nonexistent, there are very few npc's with cryptic monologues and that's all about them. Basicly everything attack you on sight.
:hmmm: Since you've evidently never played a Souls game before, I recommend trying Demon's Souls or the first Dark Souls, before plunging into the immensity of Elden Ring.

Or just skip Elden Ring entirely and just play the Souls games, because honestly, fuck Elden Ring.
 
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I tried so hard to get into Elden Ring for a good few hours. I really couldn't. Game feels like you are in some kind of dream. Story is almost nonexistent, there are very few npc's with cryptic monologues and that's all about them. Basicly everything attack you on sight.
:hmmm: Since you've evidently never played a Souls game before, I recommend trying Demon's Souls or the first Dark Souls, before plunging into the immensity of Elden Ring.
If I hated Dark Souls II, should I just avoid playing Elden Ring?
 
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If I hated Dark Souls II, should I just avoid playing Elden Ring?
If you hated Dark Souls II but never played Demon's Souls or the first Dark Souls, then you should give one of those two a try. :M
I watched someone play Dark Souls I a lot when I was over at their house once, and it looked interesting...got Dark Souls II in some Humble Bundle and did not really like it, that was some years ago now...but with everyone talking about Elden Ring have been thinking of trying it, but not sure I would really like it..not really the type of games I usually play, but sometimes I do like games way out of my normal type.
 

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If I hated Dark Souls II, should I just avoid playing Elden Ring?
If you hated Dark Souls II but never played Demon's Souls or the first Dark Souls, then you should give one of those two a try. :M
I watched someone play Dark Souls I a lot when I was over at their house once, and it looked interesting...got Dark Souls II in some Humble Bundle and did not really like it, that was some years ago now...but with everyone talking about Elden Ring have been thinking of trying it, but not sure I would really like it..not really the type of games I usually play, but sometimes I do like games way out of my normal type.
try getting your hands on Demon's Souls instead (be it on an actual PS3 or on PC via emulator). It is both a great game, and a excellent entry point for people not familiar with the formula (since it's the first of its kind).
 

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I tried so hard to get into Elden Ring for a good few hours. I really couldn't. Game feels like you are in some kind of dream. Story is almost nonexistent, there are very few npc's with cryptic monologues and that's all about them. Basicly everything attack you on sight.
Combat is very impressive, animations, enemy design is interesting, many attacks that you have to act accordingly, etc. Too bad there are no instant reset - there's a long loading screen after death. Game feels like a hack'n'slash with advanced moves and empty, open 3D world.
Game just didn't mesmerize me. Guess I'm just not a "souls game" fan, there are a lot of people that adore this game, but too bad that's just not me.

Dark Souls is way better than this turd. Might give that one a try if you haven't already.
 
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I played through 2016 modded 1997 Shandalar, twice.
i found it through reddit
original project was caput when modder left and demanded everything to be nuked
is a little bi buggy, like if someone plays ante ifreet card then your whole deck forever get replaced by 60 ifreets, or one spell affecting both players instead of your creatures, but that's basically the only and worst things I found.
there are thousands of cards i obviously played pack rats and evil fairies first.

ps it's interesting how further games copied Shandalar ui sometimes almost completely, or partially (like cards minimizing after going onto table from hand)
however, twas decided that a hybrid of MTG & King's Bounty is not a worthy thing to copy, and amazing idea was left on a road of history, at least if we talk actual original game and setting, I mean.
 
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I tried so hard to get into Elden Ring for a good few hours. I really couldn't. Game feels like you are in some kind of dream. Story is almost nonexistent, there are very few npc's with cryptic monologues and that's all about them. Basicly everything attack you on sight.
Combat is very impressive, animations, enemy design is interesting, many attacks that you have to act accordingly, etc. Too bad there are no instant reset - there's a long loading screen after death. Game feels like a hack'n'slash with advanced moves and empty, open 3D world.
Game just didn't mesmerize me. Guess I'm just not a "souls game" fan, there are a lot of people that adore this game, but too bad that's just not me.

Dark Souls is way better than this turd. Might give that one a try if you haven't already.

Have you even read his post? He would have had the same gripes with Dark Souls too, minus the open world.
 

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I love all DS-es, especially DS2. But I'm not quite into Elden Ring. In part, because I often have a bug with enemies becoming invisible. Closing browser and other memory-consuming apps while I play helps, but only to extent.
 

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Crysis 2. Just beat the first one and I really liked it, but this seems like massive decline all around. I knew going in it was a different beast and I can stomach a console-y linear setpiece shooter, but this game hasn't done anything to distinguish itself yet. Hopefully it improves.

Don't get your hopes up. Crysis -> Crysis 2 is one of the worst examples of decline I can think of in that genre.
Dunno, I like Crysis 2 the most. At least it has sane costume controls.
 

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I tried so hard to get into Elden Ring for a good few hours. I really couldn't. Game feels like you are in some kind of dream. Story is almost nonexistent, there are very few npc's with cryptic monologues and that's all about them. Basicly everything attack you on sight.
Combat is very impressive, animations, enemy design is interesting, many attacks that you have to act accordingly, etc. Too bad there are no instant reset - there's a long loading screen after death. Game feels like a hack'n'slash with advanced moves and empty, open 3D world.
Game just didn't mesmerize me. Guess I'm just not a "souls game" fan, there are a lot of people that adore this game, but too bad that's just not me.

Dark Souls is way better than this turd. Might give that one a try if you haven't already.

Have you even read his post? He would have had the same gripes with Dark Souls too, minus the open world.

I have, but he writes in his final sentence "Guess I'm just not a "souls game" fan, there are a lot of people that adore this game, but too bad that's just not me."
I felt the need to point out that Elden Ring is nothing like Dark Souls. In fact, the former feels like a parody of the latter and I hated it, whereas I love Dark Souls.
 

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Btw, I could not figure DS2 initially too. Most important thing about it when you play on PC is to toggle off "double click to power attack" in options. Because it gives annoying lag to every attack, making combat way less enjoyable.
 

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I enjoyed the Ashes 2063 Doom TC so much that i'm replaying it, this time on Survival difficulty (though I wonder why this one has less enemies than Arcade... hmmm).
Then I'll play the add-on, and afterwards the sequel.

So I'm playing Ashes: Afterglow now. My impression is... not so good.

I think the game was much stronger in the earlier episode, when it was a linear shooter. Non-linear exploration of a level is great, but I'd rather not have huge open sections and intersection of levels if ultimately there's a "proper" way to go on about unlocking stuff and such. I'm definitely wasting much more time on this game than I did on the first one, and this is precisely the thing I was enjoying about Doom and Ashes 2063.
 

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Completed Risen. I rate it 6.5 out of 10.

Nothing special, but it's a pretty solid open world action RPG. I even liked Chapter 4, which I had read many bad things about. Chapter 3 was shit, though.

Melee combat system is pretty fun. Exploration is nice. Final "boss" battle was pretty lame. Not much else to say about it.

Now tossing up whether to purchase Risen 2 or have another crack at Gothic 3.
 

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I beat Jade Empire. It's not completely shit, but it stinks in a lot of places.

I like the story. It's a ghost story, lots of talking to dead people and acting as a link between them and the living. I like this sort of thing.

Combat, however, is completely garbage. I beat every boss in the game using by and large the same strategy. Given that there is no defense stat and even the weakest enemy can break your guard, early on I decided to just ignore the health stat and dump all my points into focus and mind. Quickly I had a focus pool large enough to kill bosses while staying in focus mode at all times. It's just retarded.

I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone who wants to play an RPG. I can see it appealing more to Adventure game fans.
 

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Currently replaying Syndicate. I'd forgotten how glorious these old games are. Will move onto Syndicate Wars which I rate :5/5: despite everyone saying it wasn't as good as the first one.

It isn't. Still a fun game though.

What I (and a few others) will want you to do, is hold off on Syndicate Wars for a bit and move into the American Revolt-data disk for Syndicate instead, once you're done with the original. We want to know how you fare.

Post all the details. We will read them. We will rate them. :D

Ok, that was as tough as I remember (Atlantic Accelerator). So anyone who says nostalgia is a postive feeling felt through rose tinted glasses can fuck off. On the one hand I doubt many these days could play thorough Syndicate if they just re-released it with better graphics, but it was as fun as I remember.

  • You've got missions where you need to escort other squishy agents and you can't just keep your agents in a group because enemy agents swarm from every direction. So you have to split them up and control them individually and cover line of sight around buildings while planning where the guy you're escorting is so he doesn't get caught in the crossfire. I think that mission was Venezuela and even though the game doesn't have cover it was fun.
  • Then you've got missions where you need to get into a base, but can only do it with a vehicle. Or you need to get a vehicle to a doctor, who will then (amazingly) get into the vehicle and drive to a destination while you need to protect him. Which means getting into you own vehicle and tailing him. This is 1993. Bethesda didn't really manage NPCs doing stuff until Skyrim.
  • I didn't use certain weapons like the sniper rifle. It was just too weak, and I never got why a single enemy agent was so powerful with a minigun. But I suppose they had to account for you equipping flamers and waiting around the corner of a building for agents to run into a screaming death.
After the initial WTF? moment with the Atlantic Accelerator, I remembered to equip lasers and take out the rush of enemies. You can do that without using shields. That ended up being a fun mission. The 360 targetting was a bit off - like if an enemy was between 90 and 180 degrees the flamer wouldn't hit them. Not sure if that's a Dos Box thing.

But yeah. They really don't make them like they used to. On to Syndicate Wars.
 
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I've been playing the Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection

I've always wanted to play these games. I'm not a huge MM fan in general but the fast gameplay and the saber had a lot of appeal to me. I think I bounced off it as a kid because of the difficulty, shameful as it is to admit.

Right now I've finished every game except ZX Advent.

So. The Zero games are sick and imo every entry is better than the last. At first it's frustrating, and I found the best way was to scrape through towards the end then restart and try to do a better run... given the ranking system and the short length of each game it seems set up with this in mind.

When you know what you're doing, you can dash through stages cutting and blasting enemies like a ninja. The blaster also shouldn't be underestimated, since charged shots can kill basic enemies at a distance, and strong enemies can be more easily dispatched by for eg. mixing a charged shot with a dash cut. It's simple but there's a real rhythm to it.

I'm not a fan of the elemental system. It's a MM staple but I don't like it in any of these games. You equip the correct elemental chip to counter the boss and suddenly you bypass the challenge of the boss almost entirely. That's it. By the fourth game, the system was neutered to the point of being a non-issue, so I guess Inti Creates knew it sucked too.

I don't like subtanks either. You find them hidden in a couple of levels (or in cyber elves allegedly, but I never used those since they affect ranking). How difficult the game is is largely dependent on how many of these things you get... I think they're just too big of an advantage for an optional thing that often requires returning to a level with a later ability.

Most of the bosses are great to fight and learn, but there are a few with moves that seem to be down to luck. Also, the first game has by far the hardest end boss, which makes the subsequent final bosses seem a bit weak (especially Zero 2's).

And as you might expect, many levels rely heavily on pits and insta-death surfaces. It can feel a little cheap at times, especially given the limited view that the game allows, and it makes me wish effort had been put in to extend the view to the full width of a 16:9 display.

My favourite game of the series was 4. The level design was stronger and generally had less annoying BS than previous games sometimes did. The elemental system nerf meant that I had to actually engage with the bosses. There's a system that involves changing the weather for a level into an easy or normal difficulty state, which is a fun way to give people an easy mode if they need it imo. There are no real stinker levels like the Sunken Library from MMZ3 or the Crystal Cave from MMZ2.

All in all I'm happy I finally played these games. It really can't be overstated how satisfying the saber feels... the various animations for enemies being sliced in two are incredibly satisfying. Oh, and the port is good. It's not an emulation, there's no input lag that I noticed. They should have added an option to instantly restart a level though. Actually that's my #1 gripe with these games. It's so frustrating to want to restart a level but have to instead reload and skip through some scenes.

Anyway... two more games. Fewer words.

ZX is okay. It's a worse version of Zero in a Metroidvania style world that exists solely to waste your time. The lava level is genuinely some garbage tier game design and the final level feels very much like something they had to rush... Nobody should care about the story in these games but even by those standards this is very poorly told. Oh, the player has multiple forms with different moves but you will only use two of these forms unless the game demands otherwise.

ZX Advent so far is another mediocre game but they took the saber away from you and replaced it with a weird lock-on projectile attack that you will NEVER use. They did add some more forms based off animal-like bosses rather than humanoids, which sounds cool but in reality they're of very limited utility and only serve to clutter the menu you have to navigate whenever you want to switch form.

I wouldn't recommend the latter two but the collection is easily worth it for the Zero games. I'm glad that Inti Creates is still around and making some of the best platformers ever (Curse of the Moon 2 and Blaster Master Zero 2 are amazing fyi) and Capcom should call them up and fork over the cash for a new Zero game of some sort

Crysis 2. Just beat the first one and I really liked it, but this seems like massive decline all around. I knew going in it was a different beast and I can stomach a console-y linear setpiece shooter, but this game hasn't done anything to distinguish itself yet. Hopefully it improves.

Don't get your hopes up. Crysis -> Crysis 2 is one of the worst examples of decline I can think of in that genre.
Dunno, I like Crysis 2 the most. At least it has sane costume controls.

Crysis 2 is game where you almost exclusively fight unflinching bullet sponge enemies through some of the most contarded level design conceivable. It's shit. Crysis 3 is even worse.

I guess if you're playing Crysis 1 on a controller that's hard tho... *shrugs has never played Crysis on a controller*
 

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Playing Gladius during its free weekend period.
It's ok, but it is not worth the whole price tag.

They do the same shit that Paradox does where they nickle and dime you for content, but unlike Paradox games you don't get that much for the price.
 

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I tried that janky Dark Alliance game since it's leaving PC Game Pass soon and I was morbidly curious. :0/5:
The jank is whatever (it's pretty bad), but what really struck me is just how not fun it was. I didn't think it was worth the bandwidth to download. It definitely wasn't worth the time I played it for, and I would've been seriously angry if I would've spent money on it.

It felt like taking some free mobile or flash game and doing a bunch of advertising in order to try and get people to treat it like a AAA and pay for it. Wasn't it full price at release before they started reducing the price over time?

Anyway, it's dog shit. Avoid, even if it's free.
 

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I tried that janky Dark Alliance game since it's leaving PC Game Pass soon and I was morbidly curious. :0/5:
The jank is whatever (it's pretty bad), but what really struck me is just how not fun it was. I didn't think it was worth the bandwidth to download. It definitely wasn't worth the time I played it for, and I would've been seriously angry if I would've spent money on it.

It felt like taking some free mobile or flash game and doing a bunch of advertising in order to try and get people to treat it like a AAA and pay for it. Wasn't it full price at release before they started reducing the price over time?

Anyway, it's dog shit. Avoid, even if it's free.
Now play Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
 

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Have you even read his post? He would have had the same gripes with Dark Souls too, minus the open world.

I didn't play DS1 so I wouldn't know, but I kinda feel bad for not getting Elden Ring and it's hype. For me it's an empty, strange in a japanese way mix with Fighting Force, Mortal Kombat (that not so much tbh) and Diablo.

All Souls games are like that, the only difference is that the previous games are more tightly designed, slightly less twitchy and have a better sense of progression. If you are expecting elaborate dialogs and non-combat solutions to specific obstacles, you are looking in the wrong place. Your description fits the bill, and people recommending Dark Souls 1 due to its higher quality obviously got negative marks in Reading Comprehension 101.
 
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I tried that janky Dark Alliance game since it's leaving PC Game Pass soon and I was morbidly curious. :0/5:
The jank is whatever (it's pretty bad), but what really struck me is just how not fun it was. I didn't think it was worth the bandwidth to download. It definitely wasn't worth the time I played it for, and I would've been seriously angry if I would've spent money on it.

It felt like taking some free mobile or flash game and doing a bunch of advertising in order to try and get people to treat it like a AAA and pay for it. Wasn't it full price at release before they started reducing the price over time?

Anyway, it's dog shit. Avoid, even if it's free.

Are you talking about the original Dark Alliance or the new one? I heard the original was OK and was planning to try it out sometime.
 

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I tried that janky Dark Alliance game since it's leaving PC Game Pass soon and I was morbidly curious. :0/5:
The jank is whatever (it's pretty bad), but what really struck me is just how not fun it was. I didn't think it was worth the bandwidth to download. It definitely wasn't worth the time I played it for, and I would've been seriously angry if I would've spent money on it.

It felt like taking some free mobile or flash game and doing a bunch of advertising in order to try and get people to treat it like a AAA and pay for it. Wasn't it full price at release before they started reducing the price over time?

Anyway, it's dog shit. Avoid, even if it's free.

Are you talking about the original Dark Alliance or the new one? I heard the original was OK and was planning to try it out sometime.

The new one by Tuque games.

The original is decent, not sure how it held up though.
 

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