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Would you pledge to a new Obsidian Kickstarter?

Would you pledge to a new Obsidian Kickstarter?

  • YES, in the blink of an eye.

    Votes: 71 16.7%
  • YES, but only if Sawyer is not involved in any form or manner.

    Votes: 15 3.5%
  • YES, only if is an Avellone project.

    Votes: 23 5.4%
  • NO, thank you very much.

    Votes: 96 22.6%
  • Depends on the pitch, setting, etc.

    Votes: 138 32.5%
  • YES, only if It's a Tim Cain project.

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • YES, only if Sawyer is involved.

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • YES, if turn-based

    Votes: 28 6.6%
  • Not gonna happen with MCA gone

    Votes: 24 5.7%

  • Total voters
    424

Disgruntled

Savant
Joined
Sep 17, 2012
Messages
400
Maybe but a few factors would need to tempt my stingy wallet.

turn-based, has an exciting setting, original, multiple paths, tactical, looks good and most importantly way cheaper than the release day retail. Ive found with kickstarters, $10-30 extra is worth paying for good reviews. And since PoE didnt turn out too well, Obsidian will have to earn my pre-order. Whereas say Logic Artists would have an easier time because their kickstarter brought a game i loved.
 

roshan

Arcane
Joined
Apr 7, 2004
Messages
2,499
After being kinda disappointed with PoE, I'm going to need a much stronger pitch to contribute the same amount of money, otherwise I'll pledge only enough money to get the game.

On the plus side, Pillars was a game I could easily step away from. I didn't spend any super late nights playing it and only getting a couple hours of sleep before work. I'd have no qualms throwing down 20 potatoes for the game kickstarter as long as it was turn based, but I would have a really tough time justifying to myself pledging any potatoes to another RTwP game.

The plus side of the game was that it was shitty enough you weren't motivated to play? This is the "plus side" of games nowadays? Shit, no wonder 48% of Codexians liked it.
 

Athelas

Arcane
Joined
Jun 24, 2013
Messages
4,502
After being kinda disappointed with PoE, I'm going to need a much stronger pitch to contribute the same amount of money, otherwise I'll pledge only enough money to get the game.

On the plus side, Pillars was a game I could easily step away from. I didn't spend any super late nights playing it and only getting a couple hours of sleep before work. I'd have no qualms throwing down 20 potatoes for the game kickstarter as long as it was turn based, but I would have a really tough time justifying to myself pledging any potatoes to another RTwP game.

The plus side of the game was that it was shitty enough you weren't motivated to play? This is the "plus side" of games nowadays? Shit, no wonder 48% of Codexians liked it.
I'd certainly call it a plus side when you consider certain individuals are so obsessed with the game that they keep up to date poll results on what % of Codexers likes or dislikes it.
 

bminorkey

Guest
Why do ppl have so much faith in Avellone? AFAIK only really good thing he was the main designer for is PS:T.. and maybe Kotor 2?

It's been like over a decade since those came out.
 
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Abu Antar

Turn-based Poster
Patron
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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
I chose the top option. I would simply donate a bit less than for PoE if the game is rtwp. If it's turn-based, I'd throw my credit card at the screen over and over again, before passing out.
 

Commissar Draco

Codexia Comrade Colonel Commissar
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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
Getting tough to choose now, what if someone wants a TB RPG with Cain as project lead, MCA as creative lead and Sawyer sent back to the mailroom?

:takemymoney: but all Komrades pointing at fact that Obshitian is just too large to be trully independent and innovative are right. Will fun another game from In Exile and Larian although they are not perfect they atleast dare to dream. :salute:
 

Immortal

Arcane
In My Safe Space
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Sep 13, 2014
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Safe Space - Don't Bulli
After being kinda disappointed with PoE, I'm going to need a much stronger pitch to contribute the same amount of money, otherwise I'll pledge only enough money to get the game.

On the plus side, Pillars was a game I could easily step away from. I didn't spend any super late nights playing it and only getting a couple hours of sleep before work. I'd have no qualms throwing down 20 potatoes for the game kickstarter as long as it was turn based, but I would have a really tough time justifying to myself pledging any potatoes to another RTwP game.

The plus side of the game was that it was shitty enough you weren't motivated to play? This is the "plus side" of games nowadays? Shit, no wonder 48% of Codexians liked it.
I'd certainly call it a plus side when you consider certain individuals are so obsessed with the game that they keep up to date poll results on what % of Codexers likes or dislikes it.

Normally your pretty good at devils advocating - this was a pretty far reach though. That's the percentage the 'dex has been throwing around for what? a month?
 

Zeronet

Learned
Joined
Apr 16, 2012
Messages
250
Sure, PoE was about what i expected, happy with the game, some minor falls i can overlook. it delivered the pitch, the only kickstarter so far that hasn't lived up to expectations was WL2, which was overhyped amongst other failings.
 

MilesBeyond

Cipher
Joined
May 15, 2015
Messages
716
I thought the third option from the bottom said "YES, only if it's a Tim Curry project" and now I refuse to vote for anything except that.


In all seriousness, though, I think I might. I'm always a little hesitant to voice my opinion on Pillars because as someone who thought it was good but not great I feel like anywhere I say that on the internet I'll be trounced by people who either think that it's the greatest RPG ever made, or that it singlehandedly ruined gaming forever. Man, why's everyone got to be such drama queens about this game.

Anyway, it's probably not gonna crack my list of favourite RPGs, but I enjoyed it enough that I'd probably back another Obsidian project.
 

tuluse

Arcane
Joined
Jul 20, 2008
Messages
11,400
Serpent in the Staglands Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Shadorwun: Hong Kong
I probably would. Gonna take a lot to burn off my good will for people who were at black isle.
 

Fry

Arcane
Joined
Aug 29, 2013
Messages
1,922
I thought the third option from the bottom said "YES, only if it's a Tim Curry project" and now I

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Metro

Arcane
Beg Auditor
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
27,792
I wouldn't pledge to any Obsidian Kickstarter. Overrated developer is overrated.
 

MTwolves

Educated
Joined
Jan 8, 2015
Messages
32
Probably not. After pledging on Broken Promise/Age and POE, I have learned my lesson.
I will wait until after it has been released before buying it.

And as much I love Sir Tim Cain, I have had second thoughts after seeing the FUBAR that was the stronghold in POE.

Sometimes game developers just age out or are one-hit wonders or stop making good games if they are in a different environment (cough, Tim Schafer, I am looking at you).
You can only rely on nostalgia and street cred for so long. At some point, people just have to produce.
 

dragonul09

Arcane
Edgy
Joined
Dec 19, 2014
Messages
1,446
I wouldn't pledge to any Obsidian Kickstarter. Overrated developer is overrated.

They made some good games in the past but lately it seems they don't even try anymore,they started making games like Southpark,Dungeon Siege 3,Alpha Protocol,MMOs and now PoE.
New Vegas was good but nothing stellar

No wonder they almost went bankrupt,with choices like these,makes you wonder what went wrong.
 

Ulrox

Arbiter
Joined
Jul 18, 2014
Messages
363
I choose the :" Depends on the pitch, setting, etc" option, but if no josh sawyer on the project then I would back, or if turn based, then I would back. If there's somebody as lead developer who promises that they'll keep grognards happy, then I might back for more. I want hardcounters and loads of them!
 

Metro

Arcane
Beg Auditor
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
27,792
I wouldn't pledge to any Obsidian Kickstarter. Overrated developer is overrated.

They made some good games in the past but lately it seems they don't even try anymore,they started making games like Southpark,Dungeon Siege 3,Alpha Protocol,MMOs and now PoE.
New Vegas was good but nothing stellar

No wonder they almost went bankrupt,with choices like these,makes you wonder what went wrong.
Don't h8 on Alpha BROtocol.
 

Athelas

Arcane
Joined
Jun 24, 2013
Messages
4,502
I wouldn't pledge to any Obsidian Kickstarter. Overrated developer is overrated.

They made some good games in the past but lately it seems they don't even try anymore,they started making games like Southpark,Dungeon Siege 3,MMOs and now PoE.

No wonder they almost went bankrupt,with choices like these,makes you wonder what went wrong.
You're confusing cause and effect. They made those games because otherwise they would go bankrupt. The well for an independent AAA RPG developer has all but dried up.
 

Fry

Arcane
Joined
Aug 29, 2013
Messages
1,922
I wouldn't pledge to any Obsidian Kickstarter. Overrated developer is overrated.
No wonder they almost went bankrupt,with choices like these,makes you wonder what went wrong.

:roll:

Does it really need to be pointed out that there's very little connection between the balance of RPG Codex opinion and financial success?
 

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