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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs and Brian Mitsoda - coming March

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by vortex, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Prime Junta Arcane

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    If you picked which one at CC that would have been good. If you can choose which one to buff at the time you use it, it would have been just as bad (or worse).
     
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  2. Wesp5 Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I guess you would have picked the stat, but you only would have gotten a buff of +1. BTW speaking of Bloodheal, does feeding heal in the PnP game? Maybe I should remove this for the plus patch if it is possible...
     
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  3. Prime Junta Arcane

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    I wouldn't. It would just add busywork -- heal with Bloodheal, feed to replenish blood points, rinse, repeat. The warehouse, Grout's mansion, and endgame Temple and Ventrue Tower would become extremely tedious.
     
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  4. hajro Savant

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    Implying this wont have cod style health regen that works until a hp threshold
     
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  5. Wesp5 Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    That's what I thought, but it seems people like Grunker see this differently and several agreed with him...
     
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  6. ArchAngel Arcane

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    This change would only nerf Gangrel as you can turn on Fortitude and feed and heal on enemies during combat while ignoring being shot at :D
     
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  7. Nines_Anarch Novice

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    Yes, Bloodlines was magnificent on that regard.



    It seems Hardsuit Labs is trying to achieve the same level.
     
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  8. Prime Junta Arcane

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    You'd also have to change the intro. There's the bit where Jack sends you to feed on the bum and/or the rats specifically to heal up from getting shot.

    So not worth it IMO. Good on nerfing Blood Buff though, I appreciate that. :salute:
     
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  9. Wesp5 Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    That's a good argument, so I'll keep it like it is! Bloodheal is a bit erratic anyway, as I had to simulate it by raising auto-healing-speed for a short while.
     
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  10. jungl Learned

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    The setting as a whole is a dumb as fuck goose bumps book.
     
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    Another thing to note in regards to blood healing is that in PnP it's effectively instant, limited by turn and Generation.

    And if you really went down the PnP with this matter, you'd also end up going with others, ie Potence and Fortitude would be permanently active for free, Obfuscate would be free, Presence would be free and permanent, Dominate would be free, depending on version of core book used Celerity may or may not drain blood point per level used, Protean would be basically unrecognizable (the heat vision is permanent and free until dismissed, claws would take 3 seconds to grow but last until dismissed, and the thing about the remaining ones is that three and four don't exist in PnP and the fifth is a *level seven* Protean ability), it's basically all like that.

    Blood Buff would also be essentially permanent, since it too is a "scene" duration ability, scene being very movie-defined in PnP so it's a flexible amount of dramatic time impossible to define in a vidya solid value (examples in V20 for example define it ranging in time anywhere from "conversation at a park bench" to "storming a Tremere Chantry"), but of more important note would be that Blood Buff would not even be as Troika made it: It would allow you to just keep pumping those stats all the way until 6, three points of stat up and blood burned per 3 seconds. So it's better to stick to keeping them working within Bloodlines' own context than to make things like a PnP system that Bloodlines was not made to emulate.

    Another example of this not related to Bloodheal and Disciplines would be that in PnP vampires CAN soak Lethal damage with Stamina, it's solely and only Aggravated that they can't, and guns wouldn't really do much good except specifically at the head like Jack says because all firearms only deal Bashing to vampires and vampires HALVE that damage rounded down after soak too (even a shotgun or assault rifle is downright puny compared to household sharp objects with equal skill used, especially after Potence and blood buff gets involved, and both are nothing compared to Protean Claw; Bite also deals aggravated damage but it needs wrassling to be used first so it's not that effective but Potence Bite is basically the rabbit from Holy Grail). Gist is that WoD PnP combat is very annoying swingy rocket tag where either no damage is dealt or either almost all or all the damage is dealt in one hit. The way Aggravated damage factors into this only breaks the PnP combat further, so it's actually Bite Tag or Claw Tag (albeit V5 has done a decent improvement by cutting down Protean's early access to Aggravated damage and capping Bite damage at two).
     
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  12. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Don't forget in PnP that geting wounded fucks you up doing anything else while still wounded. The maluses are savage for wounds.
     
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  14. Child of Malkav Learned

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    Sooooooooooooo......................................gameplay?
     
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  15. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Yea.. in about 5.5 months lol
     
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  16. Child of Malkav Learned

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    Pdxcon in October 18 - 20th? I didn't see that.
    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk................
     
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    Annoying that PDXCON doesn't take place in PDX (Portland), near where I live ...
     
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    Just because the first public demo will be at PDXCon doesn't mean they might not reveal gameplay footage earlier.
     
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  19. toro Arcane

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    Why is Brian Mitsoda dressed as an angry cuck?
     
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  21. Goral Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    It's indicative that that female faggot is talking and not Brian Mitsoda (suggesting she's more important than Brian Mitsoda). Doesn't bode too well for the game if you ask me.
     
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    It would fail either way.
     
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    Have you seen his wife?
     
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    Those fucking gloves... I just can't.
     
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