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Alan Wake 2 - new survival horror experience from Remedy

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I guess I meant the DLSS3 more as a side point. The slippery slope is one of declining standards.

The main point is that DLSS has led to such a distortion in baseline performance metrics that I don't think there's a way back. Disingenuous/incompetent developers will actually look at 1080p frametimes with DLSS engaged (and at aburd levels, no less) to claim they hit an arbitrary target - say, 60fps. As you said, people are lapping up 540p shit with fancy upscaling as if it's some sort of acceptable situation. It's not, but it will only get worse in the future.

You almost never see performance discussions at native resolution with no AI upscaling or frame gen engaged. It's fucked.

It doesn't make much difference to me in the end, as modern games are shit regardless, but I can't think it's good for the industry or consumers. But fuck this industry anyway.
 

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The Codexer fears Alan Wake 2 for in it he senses another threat to BG3's GOTY status.
 

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This is so funny. This was nominated for "Ultimate game of the year award" for Golden Joystick Awards in 2023. The only problem: the game didn't even release yet and no reviews are in.
https://www.ign.com/articles/alan-wake-ii-review - 9/10
https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/alan-wake-2-review-a-miracle-illuminated/1900-6418143/ - 10/10
https://gamerant.com/alan-wake-2-review/ - 2½/5
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/23932094/alan-wake-2-review-ps5-xbox-series-x-pc
 

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This is so funny. This was nominated for "Ultimate game of the year award" for Golden Joystick Awards in 2023. The only problem: the game didn't even release yet and no reviews are in.
https://www.ign.com/articles/alan-wake-ii-review - 9/10
https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/alan-wake-2-review-a-miracle-illuminated/1900-6418143/ - 10/10
https://gamerant.com/alan-wake-2-review/ - 2½/5
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/23932094/alan-wake-2-review-ps5-xbox-series-x-pc
The 2.5/5 review is brutal; it sounds like we better wait for a few years to get the necessary hardware for cheap and the game for free on the Epic Games Store.
 

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This is most likely going to flop hard, and that is a good thing of course. No physical release, barely any hype or talk around the title, releasing at the same time with Spiderman (also gay), dead on arrival. Modern Remedy is an embarrasment.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
2.5 brutal. Got to read that one. The 10/10 goes into the trash as usual, regardless of game.
 

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Btw, what is the face of Remedy doing if they are not even writing the fugging game? (as it was posted in the gamergate thread) I thought this was his creation.
 

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People are still excited about this game? I thought it was mostly taking bets on whether or not Alan Wake gets replaced as the protag in his own fucking titular game.
 

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The game doesn't make the detective work engaging or challenging in any way. Players don't have to think critically about where they're putting evidence on Saga's case wall; most of the time it's obvious where something goes, but trying to put evidence in the wrong spot has no consequences beyond Saga muttering under her breath. Saga's profiling technique may have been a good opportunity to challenge players with unraveling a mystery or two, but instead, the game uses it to simply give information away. Saga's profiling helps her come to conclusions that would be impossible to know given the evidence she's collected, and while there is an explanation for this, it's not a satisfying one.

They dropped the fucking ball. But, hey, at least the graphics are pretty, right?
 

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Some dude on xatter xatted about how pozzed consulting firm also consulted on Alan Wake 2
The website:
https://archive.ph/cGQZl

Founded in 2018, Sweet Baby Inc. is a narrative development and consultation studio based in Montreal and working around the globe. Our mission is to tell better, more empathetic stories while diversifying and enriching the video games industry. We aim to make games more engaging, more fun, more meaningful, and more inclusive, for everyone.
 
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Btw, what is the face of Remedy doing if they are not even writing the fugging game? (as it was posted in the gamergate thread) I thought this was his creation.
Entirely unofficially, there may (theoretically) be certain (alleged) requirements for certain things to get your games funded. Someone fully unofficial may have been a bit drunk (in Minecraft) and may have said something completely outside of the context (in their dreams).

But yeah, present day Remedy is unfortunately just making a living. Some guys are filling their artistic ambitions, but most are just doing it for the pay check. Nothing real surprising there, though it still is a god damn shame.
 

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The main point is that DLSS has led to such a distortion in baseline performance metrics that I don't think there's a way back. Disingenuous/incompetent developers will actually look at 1080p frametimes with DLSS engaged (and at aburd levels, no less) to claim they hit an arbitrary target - say, 60fps. As you said, people are lapping up 540p shit with fancy upscaling as if it's some sort of acceptable situation. It's not, but it will only get worse in the future.
The worst part for me is that this is done for games that straight up do not look any better than shit from 2014. I seriously cannot tell which part of Alan Wake or Control or Remnant 2 is supposed to impress me graphically. As far as I can tell they are basically on par with Order 1886 from 2014 but only on the technical level. In terms of artistry almost every single one of these new "graphical powerhouses" just looks like absolute dogshit.

I am serious can anyone even point to a screenshot or a video where I can see how is Alan Wake 2 actually graphically impressive or are the extreme zoomins from Digital foundry all there is to it?
 

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Reminder that the new playable character was originally white:
2023.06.13-10.45-boundingintocomics-6488f1a3e63cd.png

Alan Wake II’ Race-Swaps Saga Anderson, Replaces Original Actress Malla Malmivaara With ‘The Idol’ Actress Melanie Liburd

And this is why I refuse to give money to people that hate me. It is my sincere hope that every woke game dev race swapping characters so we have str0nk empowered nigresses as lead characters decides to sit at a sidewalk cafe so one of their pets can "enrich" them. It is the only solution to this problem. You must be physically adjacent to your own poor decision making so you can receive maximum diversity.

Like this fine fellow:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/05/us/activist-ryan-carson-fatally-stabbed/index.html

May soyboy and shitlib blood run in the streets, Inshallah.
 

toughasnails

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It is said that Aussie Men are highly valued in these parts, so here's one such specimen weighing in on AW: The Return.
 

Häyhä

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And this is why I refuse to give money to people that hate me. It is my sincere hope that every woke game dev race swapping characters so we have str0nk empowered nigresses as lead characters decides to sit at a sidewalk cafe so one of their pets can "enrich" them. It is the only solution to this problem. You must be physically adjacent to your own poor decision making so you can receive maximum diversity.

Like this fine fellow:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/05/us/activist-ryan-carson-fatally-stabbed/index.html

May soyboy and shitlib blood run in the streets, Inshallah.

A Finnish game company could have given the lead role to an actual FINNISH female actress along the Finnish male actor, but they chose to throw women of their own nationality under a bus and put some current-day niggress there. Oh well, fuck 'em.
 

Zlaja

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Don't be too hard on Remedy, guys. They did after all feature a very pretty female lead in Control.

:troll:
 

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