KickStarter ATOM RPG - Wasteland Soviet style! - now with Dead City update

[Technomancer]

FNV had the possibility of raising EVERY stat with cash

By one and only if you invested in Endurance to handle that many implants, essentially making one stat non dumpable if you wanted to max out benefits. Charisma still directly buffed companion combat performance by 5% a point so while it wasn't as important it still had uses. This is where Atom did something better, by locking out certain interactions if CHA score was too low.

it had the same perk from fallout 3 where you can literally rise any stat

At the very steep price of whole perk. At best you would use it only once or twice to avoid gimping yourself too much. Unlike 3 you only get perks every two levels, not on every level.

Don't say FNV is balanced - I was able to finish it on the hardest difficulty without any trouble and I am not some kind of pro .

Not saying its perfect. Just better balanced than Atom.

 

[jackofshadows]

I didn't realize that I could double-stack effects until I read this thread. Not that you could regurlarly double-stack perfume, it's a rare item anyway.

Uh, didn't you play Fallout? And it's not rare item at all, you can buy any amount of it off the hospital chick.

Here is the thing though, outside of 10 Agi and int at 7-8 the rest of your stats are not all that important. Far more important are your tagged skills and whatever you feel you want to go along with it like lockpicking or steal.

Wut. Endurance is very important unless you play solo with stealth or like to savescumm (you basically wrote it yourself just above). Perception is important for ranged combat, Str for melee duh. Not to mention luck, the most awesome stat.

But here is the question. Why would you do that in a RPG? Obvious flaws like that can be easily avoided if you have an ounce of restraint. I always laugh at that retardation when people seem to be worse than unsupervised 5-year-old toddlers in a candy store.

Dude, play the game as you want but don't tell others they're playing it wrong. Besides, to me stacking CHA is fucking nothing compared to the ability of raising END from 2 to 10 (or even 11) and getting respective HP pool before almost any major fight - THAT's ridiculous.

 

[Sykar]

I said nothing about "playing wrong". That is just blatant nonsense that you want to read into my post. I do however make fun of people complaining or implying that a game is "too easy" when they use every weakness, flaw and exploit in the book on top of reading up on the most OP meta shit before they even started the game.
As to the rest, bollocks. Strength is easily a stat that you can even leave at 4 early on outside of melee and even then, AP from agility is more important than strength. Endurance is not all that important unless you want to play a no-reload game which is a particular way to play that not everybody enjoys. I am one of those who do not enjoy it anymore. It seems though like you believe that ANY reload equals save scumming. Which is ludicrous.
I do not see how luck is "awesome". Aimed Shots grant far more crit chance than luck ever could and with Finesse trait and More Critical Feat there is enough crit chance to go around. It is nice to have some, but far from vital. People gush over Sniper but unless you like grinding the shit out of the game early on you will almost never see it. You can usually get the game done by around 20-21 if you play without grinding.

 

[Wunderbar]

I didn't realize that I could double-stack effects until I read this thread. Not that you could regurlarly double-stack perfume, it's a rare item anyway.

Uh, didn't you play Fallout? And it's not rare item at all, you can buy any amount of it off the hospital chick.

i never double-stacked effects in Fallout too, not a powergamer.

Can't pass a check? Let's try consumable. Still doesn't work? Eh, maybe i'll try it on the next playthrough.

 

[jackofshadows]

I said nothing about "playing wrong". That is just blatant nonsense that you want to read into my post.

What the fuck mate. You clearly implied NOT ignoring the alleged flaw is laughable. But yeah, it's my wild interpretation, lmao.

I do however make fun of people complaining or implying that a game is "too easy" when they use every weakness, flaw and exploit in the book on top of reading up on the most OP meta shit before they even started the game.

No idea where you saw something like that in regards to ATOM, honestly. What I saw people mostly post itt that the difficulty is +/- fair and they usually did go blind hence missed lots of stuff like aforementioned parfume vendor or didn't figure out certain game mechanics right off the bat (hence the game seemed fairly difficult to them and there were even complains about hard encounters like the one on Playground). By the way, using legit game mechanics isn't exploit by any stretch.

Strength is easily a stat that you can even leave at 4 early on outside of melee and even then, AP from agility is more important than strength.

Agree but I didn't say otherwise.

Endurance is not all that important unless you want to play a no-reload game which is a particular way to play that not everybody enjoys. I am one of those who do not enjoy it anymore. It seems though like you believe that ANY reload equals save scumming. Which is ludicrous.

Friendly reminder that HP pool should allow to survive at least one turn in Fallout/ATOM enviroment (because you can heal as much as you want, duh) and that include crits, and in practice that means your chances of surviving against end game enemies are low with something like END < 5. Unless you play with stealth (feels like cheating almost) or at least heavily rely on offence (sniper/slayer).

i never double-stacked effects in Fallout too, not a powergamer.

That's not powergaming, that's just gaming. Try going into PF thread and tell people that you don't bother to buff more than once. Double psycho gives cap DR, just like double rad-x allows to forget about radiation. Sure, if Fallout would've been tweaked by some guy which goes by lets say Styg nickname, that shit would've been nerfed immediately but it wasn't and many would say for the better.

 

[Old One]

Currently playing ATOM RPG and enjoying it, I am.

 

[Beans00]

I really liked this game, I decided to make a music video of me killing the end boss, to go along with the underrail video I have

 

[AdamReith]

Had a bit of fun playing this a few weekends in a row but then hit a dead end with my melee build.

I was pretty upset when I checked the wiki and saw there's nothing superior to a pre-war sabre. No rippers, no super sledges. Why is there a perk tree for something that's 100% a trap?

 

[AetherVagrant]

One thing not to be overlooked about this gem - It is available on android and was what I first played and beat it on. Hands down the best true crpg you can play on your phone outside emulators.

It controls well enough on mobile, runs well on midrange phones, and has cloud saves that are cross platform compatible so you can hop back and forth between pc and mobile.
Fucking amazing!

 

[orcinator]

Nobody here made a Atom screenshot LP so the Something Awful Gendervalids made one jamselves.

Here's the LP's table of contents, I don't think they liked it.

A Land of Bandits and Incoherence
I hate bandits, all my homies hate bandits.
I Award You One Darwin Award
Dan the Bandit Man
The Cormac McCarthy Zone
The OTHER Postmodern RPG
I'm A Doctor, not an Overused Reference!
While You Studied Mein Kampf, I Studied The Blade
FUCK Kraznosnamenny
Midnight Therapy
QAnon: The RPG
Krasnoznamenny Nights
Hot Sewer Sex
The Prokhanov Zone
Edgar Maddison Welch Cosplay
The Secret of Bunker 317
Bonus update: Conspiracy... of Apathy!
Deep Lore... by Ayn Rand
Look Mommy, I'm Post Modern!
Three Sewer Mafia
Curse Your Inevitable And Pointless Betrayal
In Which The Great Evil King Was Mistaken About What Was Next
OWNED By Dan, the Bandit Man!
The Election... of Apathy!
How the Emperor Ruined Halloween
A Real Dedication To Squandering Potential - and Genocide!
I Never Knew Time Travel Could Be This Boring
Revenge... of the Bad Pacing
The Tunnel of Instant Death
Bonus Update: Can We Fix This Game?
All You Have Belongs To Dan
Return of the Postman Conspiracy
The Triumph of Prokhanov
The Riddle of Cossack Steel
A Miracle Happens
What if Metro 2033, But Boring?
WHY???? [Warning: Disgusting]
Pizzagate is real! PIZZAGATE IS REAL!
It Was A Waste Of Time All Along!
The Last of All Sidequests
The End of ATOM
Your Choices Totally Mattered! (There's a mention of the RPG Code review here, surprised they even go to this site)


Xander77's Dope-Ass Pacifist Run
Unlike me, Xander77 actually knows Russian culture and can meaningfully comment on things besides my endless tirade of "this is dogshit".

Update 1
Pacifist playthrough - Otradnoye part 1
Pacifist Playthrough – Dan’s Bandits
Pacifist Playthrough - Random encounters and Roaring Forest
Pacifist Playthrough – Otradnoye part 3
Pacifist Walkthrough - spooky scary cultist-tons
Sex and Totally Unintentional Violence
Propaganda and Politics
Mafia and Criminal Activity
Crime and Punishment, I guess?
Clown world, amirite?
Mountain Pass of Woe and the end of Pacifism
Is it over Caim Hexogen
Final thoughts

 

[Technomancer]

Nobody here made a Atom screenshot LP so the Something Awful Gendervalids made one jamselves.

Here's the LP's table of contents, I don't think they liked it.

A Land of Bandits and Incoherence
I hate bandits, all my homies hate bandits.
I Award You One Darwin Award
Dan the Bandit Man
The Cormac McCarthy Zone
The OTHER Postmodern RPG
I'm A Doctor, not an Overused Reference!
While You Studied Mein Kampf, I Studied The Blade
FUCK Kraznosnamenny
Midnight Therapy
QAnon: The RPG
Krasnoznamenny Nights
Hot Sewer Sex
The Prokhanov Zone
Edgar Maddison Welch Cosplay
The Secret of Bunker 317
Bonus update: Conspiracy... of Apathy!
Deep Lore... by Ayn Rand
Look Mommy, I'm Post Modern!
Three Sewer Mafia
Curse Your Inevitable And Pointless Betrayal
In Which The Great Evil King Was Mistaken About What Was Next
OWNED By Dan, the Bandit Man!
The Election... of Apathy!
How the Emperor Ruined Halloween
A Real Dedication To Squandering Potential - and Genocide!
I Never Knew Time Travel Could Be This Boring
Revenge... of the Bad Pacing
The Tunnel of Instant Death
Bonus Update: Can We Fix This Game?
All You Have Belongs To Dan
Return of the Postman Conspiracy
The Triumph of Prokhanov
The Riddle of Cossack Steel
A Miracle Happens
What if Metro 2033, But Boring?
WHY???? [Warning: Disgusting]
Pizzagate is real! PIZZAGATE IS REAL!
It Was A Waste Of Time All Along!
The Last of All Sidequests
The End of ATOM
Your Choices Totally Mattered! (There's a mention of the RPG Code review here, surprised they even go to this site)


Xander77's Dope-Ass Pacifist Run
Unlike me, Xander77 actually knows Russian culture and can meaningfully comment on things besides my endless tirade of "this is dogshit".

Update 1
Pacifist playthrough - Otradnoye part 1
Pacifist Playthrough – Dan’s Bandits
Pacifist Playthrough - Random encounters and Roaring Forest
Pacifist Playthrough – Otradnoye part 3
Pacifist Walkthrough - spooky scary cultist-tons
Sex and Totally Unintentional Violence
Propaganda and Politics
Mafia and Criminal Activity
Crime and Punishment, I guess?
Clown world, amirite?
Mountain Pass of Woe and the end of Pacifism
Is it over Caim Hexogen
Final thoughts

Damn, while its pretty harsh it still find it a fair summary of the game. It could've been great if devs had narrative or system design mastery like say Iron Tower developers have (especially with Colony Ship), instead the game is amateurishly made which is noticeable the most in its writing and gameplay. It still is a decent first attempt and its commendable that the project was developed to completion and into a polished enough game, unlike so many other indies. And despite its massive flaws you can still find enjoyment if you lower your expectations and simply find entertainment in roaming post-apocalyptic worlds, finding better gear, surviving. The effort shines through in some visual aspects so I wouldn't go as far as describing it as "miserable" experience overall.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Nobody here made a Atom screenshot LP so the Something Awful Gendervalids made one jamselves.

Here's the LP's table of contents, I don't think they liked it.

A Land of Bandits and Incoherence
I hate bandits, all my homies hate bandits.
I Award You One Darwin Award
Dan the Bandit Man
The Cormac McCarthy Zone
The OTHER Postmodern RPG
I'm A Doctor, not an Overused Reference!
While You Studied Mein Kampf, I Studied The Blade
FUCK Kraznosnamenny
Midnight Therapy
QAnon: The RPG
Krasnoznamenny Nights
Hot Sewer Sex
The Prokhanov Zone
Edgar Maddison Welch Cosplay
The Secret of Bunker 317
Bonus update: Conspiracy... of Apathy!
Deep Lore... by Ayn Rand
Look Mommy, I'm Post Modern!
Three Sewer Mafia
Curse Your Inevitable And Pointless Betrayal
In Which The Great Evil King Was Mistaken About What Was Next
OWNED By Dan, the Bandit Man!
The Election... of Apathy!
How the Emperor Ruined Halloween
A Real Dedication To Squandering Potential - and Genocide!
I Never Knew Time Travel Could Be This Boring
Revenge... of the Bad Pacing
The Tunnel of Instant Death
Bonus Update: Can We Fix This Game?
All You Have Belongs To Dan
Return of the Postman Conspiracy
The Triumph of Prokhanov
The Riddle of Cossack Steel
A Miracle Happens
What if Metro 2033, But Boring?
WHY???? [Warning: Disgusting]
Pizzagate is real! PIZZAGATE IS REAL!
It Was A Waste Of Time All Along!
The Last of All Sidequests
The End of ATOM
Your Choices Totally Mattered! (There's a mention of the RPG Code review here, surprised they even go to this site)


Xander77's Dope-Ass Pacifist Run
Unlike me, Xander77 actually knows Russian culture and can meaningfully comment on things besides my endless tirade of "this is dogshit".

Update 1
Pacifist playthrough - Otradnoye part 1
Pacifist Playthrough – Dan’s Bandits
Pacifist Playthrough - Random encounters and Roaring Forest
Pacifist Playthrough – Otradnoye part 3
Pacifist Walkthrough - spooky scary cultist-tons
Sex and Totally Unintentional Violence
Propaganda and Politics
Mafia and Criminal Activity
Crime and Punishment, I guess?
Clown world, amirite?
Mountain Pass of Woe and the end of Pacifism
Is it over Caim Hexogen
Final thoughts

Damn, while its pretty harsh it still find it a fair summary of the game. It could'be been great if devs had narrative or system design mastery like say Iron Tower developers have (especially with Colony Ship), instead the game is amateurishly made which is noticeable the most in its writing and gameplay. It still is a decent first attempt and its commendable that the project was developed to completion and into a polished enough game, unlike so many other indies. And despite its massive flaws you can still find enjoyment if you lower your expectations and simply find entertainment in roaming post-apocalyptic worlds, finding better gear, surviving. The effort shines through in some visual aspects so I wouldn't go as far as describing it as "miserable" experience overall.

aod is one of the worst games I've ever played and this post gave me penis cancer.

 

[Technomancer]

aod is one of the worst games I've ever played

I know how you feel about it, it also has flaws. Maybe you will like CS better because it is much closer to traditional RPG design, has party, perks and is in general way less frustrating and difficult compared to AoD. More gameplay focused too.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

Nobody here made a Atom screenshot LP so the Something Awful Gendervalids made one jamselves.

Here's the LP's table of contents, I don't think they liked it.

A Land of Bandits and Incoherence
I hate bandits, all my homies hate bandits.
I Award You One Darwin Award
Dan the Bandit Man
The Cormac McCarthy Zone
The OTHER Postmodern RPG
I'm A Doctor, not an Overused Reference!
While You Studied Mein Kampf, I Studied The Blade
FUCK Kraznosnamenny
Midnight Therapy
QAnon: The RPG
Krasnoznamenny Nights
Hot Sewer Sex
The Prokhanov Zone
Edgar Maddison Welch Cosplay
The Secret of Bunker 317
Bonus update: Conspiracy... of Apathy!
Deep Lore... by Ayn Rand
Look Mommy, I'm Post Modern!
Three Sewer Mafia
Curse Your Inevitable And Pointless Betrayal
In Which The Great Evil King Was Mistaken About What Was Next
OWNED By Dan, the Bandit Man!
The Election... of Apathy!
How the Emperor Ruined Halloween
A Real Dedication To Squandering Potential - and Genocide!
I Never Knew Time Travel Could Be This Boring
Revenge... of the Bad Pacing
The Tunnel of Instant Death
Bonus Update: Can We Fix This Game?
All You Have Belongs To Dan
Return of the Postman Conspiracy
The Triumph of Prokhanov
The Riddle of Cossack Steel
A Miracle Happens
What if Metro 2033, But Boring?
WHY???? [Warning: Disgusting]
Pizzagate is real! PIZZAGATE IS REAL!
It Was A Waste Of Time All Along!
The Last of All Sidequests
The End of ATOM
Your Choices Totally Mattered! (There's a mention of the RPG Code review here, surprised they even go to this site)


Xander77's Dope-Ass Pacifist Run
Unlike me, Xander77 actually knows Russian culture and can meaningfully comment on things besides my endless tirade of "this is dogshit".

Update 1
Pacifist playthrough - Otradnoye part 1
Pacifist Playthrough – Dan’s Bandits
Pacifist Playthrough - Random encounters and Roaring Forest
Pacifist Playthrough – Otradnoye part 3
Pacifist Walkthrough - spooky scary cultist-tons
Sex and Totally Unintentional Violence
Propaganda and Politics
Mafia and Criminal Activity
Crime and Punishment, I guess?
Clown world, amirite?
Mountain Pass of Woe and the end of Pacifism
Is it over Caim Hexogen
Final thoughts

That was accurate and hilarious but also why I think the game is so enjoyable. Most of the things mentioned aren't negative, instead they are what makes this game so special.

 

[orcinator]

the cryptobros should have been patched out
on the other hand, Jay from RLM fame is completely in character

Spoiler

You talking about
Mike "Not Just The Men, But The Women And Children Too" Stoklasa
Mike "I Don't Hold Back When I Viciously Attack Blacks" Stoklasa
Mike "Empty My Nine On The Welfare Line" Stoklasa
Mike "Goin' Mental on the Oriental" Stoklasa
Mike "Aboriginal War Criminal" Stoklasa
Mike "Aryan: Resurrection" Stoklasa
Mike "Roma in a Coma" Stoklasa
Mike "Women Lack Spatial Reasoning" Stoklasa
Mike "The Jews Run Hollywood" Stoklasa
Mike "Why Should They be Allowed to Vote" Stoklasa
Mike "Take a look at the Bell Curve" Stoklasa
Mike "They are Ruining Civilized Society" Stoklasa
Mike "I dare you to try me, hymie" Stoklasa
Mike "Kick a spic in the dick" Stoklasa
Mike "What are you, high? The holocaust was a lie!" Stoklasa
Mike "I-Raped-And-Murdered-A-Jewish-Woman-On-January-23rd-1999" Stoklasa
Mike "ReichsLuftfahrtMinisterium" Stoklasa
Mike "Senegal Wrecking Ball" Stoklasa
Mike "It's Mein Partei and I'll Heil If I Want To" Stoklasa
Mike "Girth of a Nation" Stoklasa
Mike "Ran Over An SJW In MY BMW" Stoklasa
Mike "Ampf" Stoklasa
there?

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

ps the car you get looks like fucking shit

Doesn't that make it genuinely Soviet?

 

[Sykar]

 

[lightbane]

obody here made a Atom screenshot LP so the Something Awful Gendervalids made one jamselv

Oh, that LP. I was considering whether or not to mention it here. The author has a clear hate-boner against the game, somewhat deserved as the writing is awful, but at times he's too busy frothing to realize he made mistakes or outright tell blatant lies to rage some more, ignoring the call outs from the other posters in the lp thread. The second LP with a pacifist character is better.

Is the expansion better than the base game writing-wise? According to the LP your MC is treated as a retard regardless of your INT score, which eventually gets annoying.

 

[Technomancer]

car

One thing I hate about it, is that it's literally this in game:

As in on worldmap, car model is simply slapped on top of your pedestrian char model and if you listen you can hear fucking walking noises under the engine. Shit drives me crazy.

Atomboy any chance for this extra bit of polish? Mute walking sounds when you use the car.

 

[Darko]

So what did everyone think about becoming a Borg collective as a solution to climate change related disasters, or any other large-scale problems where individualism won't cut it? At the time I went against it, but have since been wondering if that was the right choice.

Also, the character of Beetroota is presumably Sveklana in Russian? Which would be a pun on Svetlana, a name that is common in probably all Slavic languages. My Russian is very basic but it felt clever to figure it out.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Tinybuild guy said that any future projects set in Russia may get shunned for political reasons, devs didn't rule out the possibility of changing the setting of their next game for a different country (Atom spinoff set in Yurop, China or even USA?);

sad since these kinda of geopolitical situation makes a whole people and culture synonimous with whatever current regime that pull the shots. propaganda washed crowd aside, to dismiss entire history of people and culture because of their government's bad decision is kinda sad. i'd love more games to set in russia, or china or whatever.

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

Lol the poor innocent Russian people meme

You people's opinions are so generic I can just move posts around from other threads in response and they're still 600% relevant

 

[Serus]

Tinybuild guy said that any future projects set in Russia may get shunned for political reasons, devs didn't rule out the possibility of changing the setting of their next game for a different country (Atom spinoff set in Yurop, China or even USA?);

sad since these kinda of geopolitical situation makes a whole people and culture synonimous with whatever current regime that pull the shots. propaganda washed crowd aside, to dismiss entire history of people and culture because of their government's bad decision is kinda sad. i'd love more games to set in russia, or china or whatever.

To be honest, it would be interesting to make it in some other Warsaw Pact country. There are tons of games set in Russia but how many games are set in ruins of, say, alternative post apocalyptic Warsaw Pact's Czechoslovakia? Maybe even add a postapo version of Jozin z Bazin? Another option, Potatoland? Or DDR? Any country that devs have knowledge off and isn't totally obscure could work. I mean, postapo WP's Albania would be more like a fantasy land for everyone. I'm all for Chinese settings but i'm not sure if post-apo is the thing i'd like set in China. Sounds... boring somehow. Also too depressing even compared to the idea post Soviet Union Wasteland. What next? CRPG set in North Korea?
As to not making or not being able to make stuff set in imaginary Russia because of current politics, it is mighty stupid. I could see if someone wouldn't want to make a realistic game set in Russia early 21st century because of current politics, that could go wrong, but postapo? Nah, that is wrong.

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

How about you make a game not in some desolate, autocratic shithole

 

[bobocrunch]

4chan is that way brother