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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Raghar

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Depends on what adventure you are playing. If you want relaxing adventure with mostly next to zero danger with one to three DEADLY incidents, you can have enjoyable sessions without rushing to level 4.
Sure, but the Dungeon Master's Guide explicitly tells you that characters should almost immediately reach level 3:

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That a session level based advancement when nobody wants to bother with XP tracking, and wants all characters to be at same level.
 

Murk

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Started to play this a bit in complete contrast to my usual stance on EA, and it's got some busted stuff here and there, but mostly works fine fine. Biggest technical issue for me is poor performance (likely my machine) and the animations during dialog and in-game cutscenes are buggered to hell. Otherwise the game itself plays well.

Biggest drawback really is.... 5e. They really gutted the fun you can have in character building from 3.5.

I thought maybe it'd been long enough for me not to be such a curmudgeon about it, but nope.
 

Eisenheinrich

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But if I may ask? Where is the story? So far, I'm just roaming around, checking different points of interest and find random NPCs that offer me a cure for my tadpole. The whole game world seems to be constructed around my very special problem which makes it all very gamey. No feel for scope or scale.
 

Tyranicon

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But if I may ask? Where is the story? So far, I'm just roaming around, checking different points of interest and find random NPCs that offer me a cure for my tadpole. The whole game world seems to be constructed around my very special problem which makes it all very gamey. No feel for scope or scale.

Welcome to modern AAA RPGs. Although to be fair, the entire BG series revolved around the PC, but at least previous installments had a good reason. Not sure about BG3 yet.
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
But if I may ask? Where is the story? So far, I'm just roaming around, checking different points of interest and find random NPCs that offer me a cure for my tadpole. The whole game world seems to be constructed around my very special problem which makes it all very gamey. No feel for scope or scale.
Most of your companions will constantly get angry at you because there's so much stuff to do not related to your brain parasite.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
 
Vatnik Wumao
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Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
So this is the power of potato.
 

Lambach

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He also explains that high-level content is extremely problematic because high-level spells give an incredible amount of freedom and are hard to implement in a videogame adaptation.

I feel like that's a bit of a copout unless he thinks they absolutely need to translate every spell from PnP exactly as it is. If they managed to implement Wish (reasonably well) 20 years ago, why can't it be done now?
 

Raghar

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Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
Congratulation. Welcome to the club of people who are waiting for full release.

I'm so glad I avoided 67 GB download. I'm so glad I avoided 67 GB download. I'm so glad I avoided 67 GB download.
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
My two biggest complaints are:
Camera isn't fixed. Adds nothing, camera control is a pain in the ass.
The world feels too small and would have been better off as separate maps. Changes wouldn't have even needed to be that big, it already has multiple maps in the same area without any loading screens.

With regards to the second though... If you remember that the individual BG maps formed one big map, it really wasn't that big either unlike e.g., Fallout.
index.jpg

So in some regard, it's actually true to the original design. But I don't like it.
 

Thonius

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Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
I told multiple times in this very thread that right now it's not worth it.
Do you even read?
4 levels 60 USD. 15 USD per level.
You got got!
 
Vatnik Wumao
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Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
I told multiple times in this very thread that right now it's not worth it.
Do you even read?
4 levels 60 USD. 20 USD per level.
You got got!
60 USD for the full game. You just have to make an informed choice whether you have enough confidence in the game to get it while it's in EA.
 

Thonius

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My two biggest complaints are:
Camera isn't fixed. Adds nothing, camera control is a pain in the ass.
The world feels too small and would have been better off as separate maps. Changes wouldn't have even needed to be that big, it already has multiple maps in the same area without any loading screens.

With regards to the second though... If you remember that the individual BG maps formed one big map, it really wasn't that big either unlike e.g., Fallout.
index.jpg

So in some regard, it's actually true to the original design. But I don't like it.
Yeah, also lack of open spaces. Just hallways made of rock's and mountains.
Dungeons are cool tho.
60 USD for the full game. You just have to make an informed choice whether you have enough confidence in the game to get it while it's in EA.
No, it's preorder with no refunds. Wake up.
You pay 60 to pre order game and beta test it. And if you discover you don't like it - too late bozo!
You got got!
Now if they made a discount for EA as gazilion of other games, that I can twist in some way that's not a scam.
Right now it feels like a scam of ginormous magnitude.
FULL PRICE! For BETA TEST! OUR DEMOOOOO!
*excited soyboys lined up to PRE-ORDER GAME that wont ever run out of copies*
 

Konjad

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Codex+ Now Streaming! Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
I told multiple times in this very thread that right now it's not worth it.
Do you even read?
4 levels 60 USD. 15 USD per level.
You got got!
I didn't read the whole thread.

However, from what I've seen so far I like it a lot, so full game is likely to be worth it if it doesn't drop in quality.
 

Thonius

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Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
I told multiple times in this very thread that right now it's not worth it.
Do you even read?
4 levels 60 USD. 15 USD per level.
You got got!
I didn't read the whole thread.

However, from what I've seen so far I like it a lot, so full game is likely to be worth it if it doesn't drop in quality.
Thank you for your beta bucks and beta testing our product!
Full release in 2 years.
Bye!
 

Mangoose

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I imagine those who really care and understand are doing activism on the streets instead of on social media. It's also an ego thing. They virtue signal for self-satisfaction, pride, love from the echo chamber. To have feels about sometihng may indicate morality but it isn't a moral action. The only moral actions are those that create positive, tangible consequences. I raise attention to stuff but only if what I say can make a practical difference, or generate one (e.g. Yemen, imperialism, whatever - stuff we can actually address, that we are not aware of because the media is virtue-signaling Trump/anti-Trump all day, every day... Heck, even talk political theory that is unrelated to the current scenario).

Virtue signalers who accomplish nothing, especially companies, it's all for themselves.

I don't get why people don't get that complaining doesn't cause change unless action is taken. If they have the opportunity to take action but they are virtue signaling instead, then for all intents and purposes, they're being immoral.

Lol what about the inside forces? Matt Ward? Primaris Marines?

See I don't care what they do, but when they start changing the things I like I get annoyed. Also, I'm a xeno player. Tyranids are my thing. Space marines are eh... If I had to pick a chapter it would be the Black Templars.
I dunno I feel like I'd get pissed if they're profiting off me.

Or maybe I shouldn't broaden the anger.

Edit: As an Asian, every and then I'll get the SJW ally, and all they do is piss me off because they're acting like I can't handle things by myself, I can't fight on my own. It's like patronizing. Not just projection but "I'm better than you" (you know, "American Exceptionalism?")

Seriously. I already have anger issues. You think I can't take care of myself? Hell I'ma beat yo ass first. Then I'll beat up the racist and make him stick his schlong in your asscrack. Of course provocative photos for means of blackmail.

Yeah... I have a problem with being helped without asking for it.
 
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Gyor

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Wait, what the fuck? I thought the BIG RELEASE that was so hyped and happened a few days ago was supposed to have main storyline finished and that's why I bought it... but after 10 hours it says I reached the end of EA?! The rest coming later?! FUCKKK I should have fucking waited and read more about this EA
I told multiple times in this very thread that right now it's not worth it.
Do you even read?
4 levels 60 USD. 15 USD per level.
You got got!
I didn't read the whole thread.

However, from what I've seen so far I like it a lot, so full game is likely to be worth it if it doesn't drop in quality.
Thank you for your beta bucks and beta testing our product!
Full release in 2 years.
Bye!

More like a year.
 

kangaxx

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However, from what I've seen so far I like it a lot, so full game is likely to be worth it if it doesn't drop in quality.

I will provide a note of caution.. DOS2 suffered from bad pacing issues. After the first Act it sort of hit the buffers IMO. It took me a number of attempts to finish it off.

I reckon this game lives or dies by its follow up content.
 

Gyor

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My two biggest complaints are:
Camera isn't fixed. Adds nothing, camera control is a pain in the ass.
The world feels too small and would have been better off as separate maps. Changes wouldn't have even needed to be that big, it already has multiple maps in the same area without any loading screens.

With regards to the second though... If you remember that the individual BG maps formed one big map, it really wasn't that big either unlike e.g., Fallout.
index.jpg

So in some regard, it's actually true to the original design. But I don't like it.
Yeah, also lack of open spaces. Just hallways made of rock's and mountains.
Dungeons are cool tho.
60 USD for the full game. You just have to make an informed choice whether you have enough confidence in the game to get it while it's in EA.
No, it's preorder with no refunds. Wake up.
You pay 60 to pre order game and beta test it. And if you discover you don't like it - too late bozo!
You got got!
Now if they made a discount for EA as gazilion of other games, that I can twist in some way that's not a scam.
Right now it feels like a scam of ginormous magnitude.
FULL PRICE! For BETA TEST! OUR DEMOOOOO!
*excited soyboys lined up to PRE-ORDER GAME that wont ever run out of copies*

17.5 hours in and it was worth every penny, I'm having a blast and I will likely replay it and I just don't replay games normally.

And I'll take a game that is honest about being in EA, over a game that releases super buggy, yet pretends its not in EA.
 
Vatnik Wumao
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60 USD for the full game. You just have to make an informed choice whether you have enough confidence in the game to get it while it's in EA.
No, it's preorder with no refunds. Wake up.
You pay 60 to pre order game and beta test it. And if you discover you don't like it - too late bozo!
Ergo the 'make informed choice' part. It's still a gamble, but it's up to you to decide whether you want to make it or not. No point in having buyer's remorse if you acknowledged the risk of it turning out shitty.
 

Gyor

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He also explains that high-level content is extremely problematic because high-level spells give an incredible amount of freedom and are hard to implement in a videogame adaptation.

I feel like that's a bit of a copout unless he thinks they absolutely need to translate every spell from PnP exactly as it is. If they managed to implement Wish (reasonably well) 20 years ago, why can't it be done now?

Its simple, you only allow the uses list directly in the spell + uses listed in other spells conditions (like something that can only be reversed by a Wish spell.).
 

Lacrymas

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Pathfinder: Wrath
D&D becomes relatively pointless after 10-12th level anyway, so I wouldn't encourage going beyond that. It's not only more work to introduce the ridiculously overpowered spells, they also trivialize a lot of the content (that is also hard to make). Just have some self-control, Larian. Stick as closely to the rules as possible, don't try to make it more flashy than it needs to be, and it's going to be ok.
 

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