Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Ontopoly]

lambchop is spamming and doing personal attacks way more than I did when I got banned from this thread. If I was doing this bias larian shill infinitron would have me banned by now

 

[Ontopoly]

So you admit that you just hate Larian lol.

To be fair, there is plenty of reason to hate them. Mike Mearls too.

wouldn't know it was a Larian game just by playing it apart from a few traps, but none of that is enough for you.

Do you actually think this though? They still have their barrels and puddles (although to a lesser extent), the map/area layout is the same as dos2, it's even in the same engine so a ton is carried over. They're going to have their origin characters, the way you recruit characters is the same, the way you lose them after act 1 is the same. Their design philosophy for the game is pretty much the same as DOS2 except they have a better combat rule system now. There's no way you can honestly tell me that anybody who sees this game doesn't immediately think of DOS2. There's still a ton more I could list. If you even try, it's just further proof that you're just willing to say whatever because you think it will make a good argument

 

[sullynathan]

Eh Larian's new games are significantly better than their old games. You can't hate them for being a small company that found huge success from specifically making the games they wanted and people latched on to it. It wasn't like they were even trying to chase mainstream trends with these past 3 games either.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Eh Larian's new games are significantly better than their old games. You can't hate them for being a small company that found huge success from specifically making the games they wanted and people latched on to it. It wasn't like they were even trying to chase mainstream trends with these past 3 games either.

Funniest part about Larian's success is that it only came after Swen worked on what he actually wanted to do instead of what publishers told him would sell well.
The worst part of the original Divinity games is the aspects they took from Diablo at the publisher's behest.

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

It wasn't like they were even trying to chase mainstream trends with these past 3 games either.

Swen dumbed down the gameplay in DOS2 immensely and added a ton of Bioware style sexy time options specifically to cater to casuals and the mainstream.

Funniest part about Larian's success is that it only came after Swen worked on what he actually wanted to do instead of what publishers told him would sell well.

You're half right, because Dragon Commander was a failure. That was the project that could have killed off Larian for good.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

You're half right, because Dragon Commander was a failure. That was the project that could have killed off Larian for good.

Dragon Commander was basically killed off and pushed out the door to fund the development of DOS, Swen was disappointed with how it released.

https://www.pcgamer.com/how-divinity-original-sin-almost-bankrupted-larian-studios/

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

lambchop is spamming and doing personal attacks way more than I did when I got banned from this thread. If I was doing this bias larian shill infinitron would have me banned by now

Infintiron removes people from threads for off-topic behavior. That's pretty much it. Don't veer into off-topic, mindless criticism of the studio when you could be discussing the game itself and the studio's actions relating to that.

People come here to read about actual features of the game and opinions on it and not your autistic rants about how much you hate the title of the game and the studio.

They still have their barrels and puddles (although to a lesser extent)

Of course *to a lesser extent*. That's my point. Is any game with barrels D:OS now?

the map/area layout is the same as dos2, it's even in the same engine so a ton is carried over.

So D:OS 2's first area had an Underdark area with giant glowing mushrooms that was almost as big as the overland map? A goblin-infested temple?

They're both fantasy games, so it's going to look a little similar, but they aren't clones of each other. Stop lying.

Their design philosophy for the game is pretty much the same as DOS2 except they have a better combat rule system now. There's no way you can honestly tell me that anybody who sees this game doesn't immediately think of DOS2.

Larian's design is extremely different and anyone who actually played their other games would know that. It looks more like Dragon Age than a Divinity game. Turn-based combat and the engine are the similarities.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Larian's design is extremely different and anyone who actually played their other games would know that. It looks more like Dragon Age than a Divinity game

The graphics look really good to me. The armors, the faces, the monsters, etc., Especially the facial animations, dialogues overall are very well choreographed. It might not make sense as to why the dialogues are 'cinematic' for those that haven't played it yet, but it adds a ton to the atmosphere of the game.

I definitely agree that this is closer to DAO(which was in many ways a spiritual BG3) in most ways except for quest design(Larian's goal-oriented quest design is some of the best on the market) and other engine-specific things like the highly interactive world which puts Bethesda's engine to shame in many ways.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

To be more productive about the feedback thread I'm glad that Larian is at least aware that the evil route is downright comical and veering into cartoon evil territory. Also it's interesting that they are surprised with Halsin's popularity, I mean he is an elf who has the form a bodybuilder, a good druid and is more than willing to slaughter goblins. What's not to like about that? I would gladly trade him for Wyll.

Halsin being young/fit was a last minute change according to the writer, he previously was old and wizened.
But, yes, dude is jacked AF.

ERYFKRAD this elf wants to have a word with you

 

[Murk]

Chad Quakencock

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

To be more productive about the feedback thread I'm glad that Larian is at least aware that the evil route is downright comical and veering into cartoon evil territory. Also it's interesting that they are surprised with Halsin's popularity, I mean he is an elf who has the form a bodybuilder, a good druid and is more than willing to slaughter goblins. What's not to like about that? I would gladly trade him for Wyll.

Halsin being young/fit was a last minute change according to the writer, he previously was old and wizened.
But, yes, dude is jacked AF.

ERYFKRAD this elf wants to have a word with you

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Got an answer.

Support Agent (D&D)

Oct 19, 2020, 4:53 PM PDT

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Wizards of the Coast Customer Support. If you are speaking of Heroes of Baldur's Gate as found here, the adventure is unofficial fan content published through the DM's Guild online adventure marketplace.

Are you happy, rusty_shackleford ? Siege of Dragonspear remains safely canon.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Got an answer.

Support Agent (D&D)

Oct 19, 2020, 4:53 PM PDT

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Wizards of the Coast Customer Support. If you are speaking of Heroes of Baldur's Gate as found here, the adventure is unofficial fan content published through the DM's Guild online adventure marketplace.

Are you happy, rusty_shackleford ? Siege of Dragonspear remains safely canon.

All it means is that those disgusting portraits are non-canon.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

To be more productive about the feedback thread I'm glad that Larian is at least aware that the evil route is downright comical and veering into cartoon evil territory. Also it's interesting that they are surprised with Halsin's popularity, I mean he is an elf who has the form a bodybuilder, a good druid and is more than willing to slaughter goblins. What's not to like about that? I would gladly trade him for Wyll.

The main problem with the evil route is that the gobos have no real motive to want to kill the refugees or even the druid.

The fact that Haslin is warning the goblins about the parasites might have been a reason, but they captured him.

Spoiler

And he can't even remove the parasites.

And the dark elf, when asked about it, says something about making an example of them for fear. As if people are going to hear about a druid grove the goblins couldn't even FIND ceasing to exist.

About the only thing of value in the grove is their idol, but Gale needs that for spoilerific reasons.

So there's no rational reason for the goblins to want to attack the grove. If they were led by goblins or even a hobgoblin, that would be ok, but the drow seems to be the one who wants to kill them more than anyone else.

 

[Zeriel]

Larian just isn't good at writing "serious", sad to say.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

To be more productive about the feedback thread I'm glad that Larian is at least aware that the evil route is downright comical and veering into cartoon evil territory. Also it's interesting that they are surprised with Halsin's popularity, I mean he is an elf who has the form a bodybuilder, a good druid and is more than willing to slaughter goblins. What's not to like about that? I would gladly trade him for Wyll.

The main problem with the evil route is that the gobos have no real motive to want to kill the refugees or even the druid.

The fact that Haslin is warning the goblins about the parasites might have been a reason, but they captured him.

And the dark elf, when asked about it, says something about making an example of them for fear. As if people are going to hear about a druid grove the goblins couldn't even FIND ceasing to exist.

About the only thing of value in the grove is their idol, but Gale needs that for spoilerific reasons.

I assumed that the goblins were being used by

Spoiler

whoever The Absolute is, and for some reason it wanted everyone who was on the crashed nautiloid killed

 

[bec de corbin]

The funniest part of siege of dragonspear is that they included a sequel hook at the end that could not possibly be followed up on, because the sequel already exists

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

The funniest part of siege of dragonspear is that they included a sequel hook at the end that could not possibly be followed up on, because the sequel already exists

What sequel hook?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The funniest part of siege of dragonspear is that they included a sequel hook at the end that could not possibly be followed up on, because the sequel already exists

I was fairly upset that there was never any resolution for Skie. You can't just set something up like that then not finish it somehow.
They could have added some content to BG2EE to at least finish it up, they already added some terrible donutsteel OC characters.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The funniest part of siege of dragonspear is that they included a sequel hook at the end that could not possibly be followed up on, because the sequel already exists

What sequel hook?

Basically, CHARNAME under the influence of someone else murdered Skie(BG1 companion that got an expanded story in SoD) using Soultaker. That's about all I can remember, and it's never followed up on at all.

Skie Silvershield lies dead, seemingly at your hand. The siege force's clerics are unable to revive her. Her magically preserved body has been transported to Grand Duke Entar Silvershield, who clings to the faint hope that his daughter might someday be resurrected. You share that hope; without Skie, you may never know the truth of what happened that dark night.

Once, you thought yourself free of your father's taint. But as you journeyed to Dragonspear Castle, you realized this was not so. You are a child of Bhaal, Lord of Murder. A piece of him resides in you. Has it grown beyond your control? Was yours the hand that plunged the dagger into Skie Silvershield's breast? You do not know. And that fact haunts you.

 

[bec de corbin]

Irenicus tricks you into murdering the Duke's daughter with a bullshit soul-stealing dagger, and they directly explain that if it's obtained then you will be able to revive her and clear your name. But then you meet Irenicus in BG2 and don't recognize him, and he doesn't have the dagger, and Skie stays in a magical coma forever I guess

 

[JohnSmith24601]

This is quickly turning into comedy gold.

I think you mistake me for a man who cares about rules, but thanks anyways.

Don't worry, no one mistook you for a man.

Says the 300 pound garbage that leaves the couch.

 

[JohnSmith24601]

Who the fuck cares about Siege of Trannyspear?

 

[underground nymph]

To be more productive about the feedback thread I'm glad that Larian is at least aware that the evil route is downright comical and veering into cartoon evil territory. Also it's interesting that they are surprised with Halsin's popularity, I mean he is an elf who has the form a bodybuilder, a good druid and is more than willing to slaughter goblins. What's not to like about that? I would gladly trade him for Wyll.

The main problem with the evil route is that the gobos have no real motive to want to kill the refugees or even the druid.

The fact that Haslin is warning the goblins about the parasites might have been a reason, but they captured him.

And the dark elf, when asked about it, says something about making an example of them for fear. As if people are going to hear about a druid grove the goblins couldn't even FIND ceasing to exist.

About the only thing of value in the grove is their idol, but Gale needs that for spoilerific reasons.

I assumed that the goblins were being used by

Spoiler

whoever The Absolute is, and for some reason it wanted everyone who was on the crashed nautiloid killed

Hmm, how ‘bout interrogating hob gets enraged after he finds out you killed tentaclo? I thought the Absolute is an Illithid invention.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Yeah, but no recurring character in BG3 at all, and it's unlikely that you'll meet any in the future because the whole thing is set in the totally different time period.

Minsc joins your party.
Almost guaranteed we'll see Coran in the city.

Not almost. He's basically part of the city's leadership, and his son is part of Minsc's party.