Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Orud]

You are right on all accounts.

Personally, I will not engage in that shit. In most rpgs, I shoot down any romance options.

The last video game romance I remember was in Alpha Protocol, where the German chick raped my character.

That's why I loved it when Sven announced you can create a full custom party if you wish.

Same with Owlcat games, just create a full custom party with the mercenary system. Would be nice if they added a way to create one from scratch (when you reach the outpost (Kingmaker) or tavern (WOTR)) instead of having to use cheats to give you the gold, but at least its there.

 

[Gradenmayer]

That makes no sense. If Obsidian made games that sold poorly why would MS bother to buy them and their shit? Owlcat became popular because they made a rt with pause game that sold fukkin' way better than most people though. The fact they added tb after the fact doesn't change the fact it sold based on rt with pause. HOLY FUKK NUTZ. U RETART.

deadfire flopped you retard. All you had to do was type “deadfire financial performance”, but you would rather type your stupid shit out.

https://www.thegamer.com/pillars-of-eternity-2-deadfire-huge-flop

 

[Rhobar121]

That makes no sense. If Obsidian made games that sold poorly why would MS bother to buy them and their shit? Owlcat became popular because they made a rt with pause game that sold fukkin' way better than most people though. The fact they added tb after the fact doesn't change the fact it sold based on rt with pause. HOLY FUKK NUTZ. U RETART.

I'd like to see the flip you do to justify why Owlcat gave up rtwp in favor of tb.

 

[StrongBelwas]

That makes no sense. If Obsidian made games that sold poorly why would MS bother to buy them and their shit? Owlcat became popular because they made a rt with pause game that sold fukkin' way better than most people though. The fact they added tb after the fact doesn't change the fact it sold based on rt with pause. HOLY FUKK NUTZ. U RETART.

How many RTwP games has Obsidian released since being assimilated by Microsoft? How many have they announced ?

 

[Abu Antar]

That makes no sense. If Obsidian made games that sold poorly why would MS bother to buy them and their shit? Owlcat became popular because they made a rt with pause game that sold fukkin' way better than most people though. The fact they added tb after the fact doesn't change the fact it sold based on rt with pause. HOLY FUKK NUTZ. U RETART.

How many RTwP games has Obsidian released since being assimilated by Microsoft? How many have they announced ?

The Outer Worlds, The Outer Worlds 2, and Avowed are all rtwp.

 

[Volourn]

Didnt they make that shitty real time space game? Or was that before? I dunno. I don't pay attention to Obsidian anymore.


"I'd like to see the flip you do to justify why Owlcat gave up rtwp in favor of tb."

Doesn't change the fact they became famous and scucessful after making a rt with pause dnd rpg. You fukkin' retart.



"deadfire flopped you retard. All you had to do was type “deadfire financial performance”, but you would rather type your stupid shit out."

Part 1 wasn't. It was rt with pause. So.. maybe DOS2 was just shit? Afterall, manyt series get shittier the longer they go on.

Bottom line, Obsidian's most successful games are rt with pause. Not turn based. Aadding turn base modes certainly didn't make them money.

And, their newer games like that space shit wasn't tb.

And, it's Obsidian. Their games suck because they suck.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

deadfire flopped you retard. All you had to do was type “deadfire financial performance”, but you would rather type your stupid shit out.

https://www.thegamer.com/pillars-of-eternity-2-deadfire-huge-flop

They said that over time the game broke even and started even making some profit, but yeah, it was definitely not a commercial success at first.
That aside, no one has to guess, since we have Sawyer himself openly stating on video that the addition of the turn-based mode was the most popular addition they add since the game launched and helped turning the game's reputation around like nothing else.

 

[Gradenmayer]

deadfire flopped you retard. All you had to do was type “deadfire financial performance”, but you would rather type your stupid shit out.

https://www.thegamer.com/pillars-of-eternity-2-deadfire-huge-flop

They said that over time the game broke even and started even making some profit, but yeah, it was definitely not a commercial success at first.
That aside, no one has to guess, since we have Sawyer himself openly stating on video that the addition of the turn-based mode was the most popular addition they add since the game launched and helped turning the game's reputation around like nothing else.

Glad to hear that their post-release support for it paid off.

 

[Volourn]

If you believe JE Sawyer you are retartet and let me tell ya I have a rock to sell you for 1 million dollars. It is worth it, 'trust me'.

Remember, Sawyer is the guy who though that PE would be a 'BG Killer'. LMAO

And, he thinks 'muscle mage' is a thing. L0LZ

 

[Rhobar121]

Didnt they make that shitty real time space game? Or was that before? I dunno. I don't pay attention to Obsidian anymore.


"I'd like to see the flip you do to justify why Owlcat gave up rtwp in favor of tb."

Doesn't change the fact they became famous and scucessful after making a rt with pause dnd rpg. You fukkin' retart.



"deadfire flopped you retard. All you had to do was type “deadfire financial performance”, but you would rather type your stupid shit out."

Part 1 wasn't. It was rt with pause. So.. maybe DOS2 was just shit? Afterall, manyt series get shittier the longer they go on.

Bottom line, Obsidian's most successful games are rt with pause. Not turn based. Aadding turn base modes certainly didn't make them money.

And, their newer games like that space shit wasn't tb.

And, it's Obsidian. Their games suck because they suck.

The first PoE sold only because it preyed on nostalgia, as you can see in the case of PoE2 it failed the second time (I wonder why).
Their new games are practically action RPGs.

Owlcat made money on a bunch of morons who like to masturbate to Excel. They eventually added TB modes to both games. Kingsmaker got it mainly because TB mod was very popular.
The popularity of TB meant that WoTR had this mode since launch, and I'd bet that if it wasn't for WoTR being far in development it would have been designed for TB.
Literally in their next game, they don't even care about the RTWP crowd, which evidently turned out to be too small.

RTWP is dead.

 

[Rhobar121]

If you believe JE Sawyer you are retartet and let me tell ya I have a rock to sell you for 1 million dollars. It is worth it, 'trust me'.

Remember, Sawyer is the guy who though that PE would be a 'BG Killer'. LMAO

And, he thinks 'muscle mage' is a thing. L0LZ

"If the theory does not agree with the facts, so much the worse for the facts"

 

[Volourn]

None of your spam is menaingful. PE and KM sold well enough and became popular while being rt with pause. Your claim was that rt with pause doesn't sell. Why do you still fukkin' lie?

 

[jaekl]

You are right on all accounts.

Personally, I will not engage in that shit. In most rpgs, I shoot down any romance options.

The last video game romance I remember was in Alpha Protocol, where the German chick raped my character.

That's why I loved it when Sven announced you can create a full custom party if you wish.

Same with Owlcat games, just create a full custom party with the mercenary system. Would be nice if they added a way to create one from scratch (when you reach the outpost (Kingmaker) or tavern (WOTR)) instead of having to use cheats to give you the gold, but at least its there.

Yay! We get to pay a premium price and also take on the task of writing characters who aren't a bunch of cringe clowns for every RPG studio now.

 

[Mortmal]

What other game has promised people customizable genitals before... Can't really recall the name...

Conan exiles , promised and delivered.

 

[Rhobar121]

None of your spam is menaingful. PE and KM sold well enough and became popular while being rt with pause. Your claim was that rt with pause doesn't sell. Why do you still fukkin' lie?

Eh, I don't know why I'm arguing with a troll, but whatever.
You can sell a million copies of a game and consider it a success, or you can sell two million.
Which option do you think the studio will choose?
Why do you think the studios are resigning from RTWP?
All that matters is that rtwp is LESS popular than tb.
The fact that Owlcat started on rtwp has absolutely nothing to do with it, what matters is that for some reason they decided to give it up in favor of TB. Why they did it can be guessed.
it cannot be explained more simply.

 

[Infinitron]

Josh Sawyer: "Great thread"

 

[Jermu]

your favorite creators may never be able to give you the thing you love ever again.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Josh Sawyer: "Great thread"

What a retarded take on Larian, BG3 and RPGs.

 

[Reinhardt]

Wyll is pretty much an idiot. Basically an hero wannabe that ended to fuck up badly and make a pact with a devil.

so basically average codex player.

 

[Orud]

What a retarded take on Larian, BG3 and RPGs.

Howso, isn't it true?

 

[Tyranicon]

BG3

Raised standard

This is not a new baseline for RPGs--this is an anomaly.Trying to do the same thing in the same way, especially without the same advantages, could kill an entire GROUP of studios.

but if you shout that "EVERY RPG SHOULD BE LIKE THIS GOING FORWARD, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE--"You've not just missed the point, you've created the expectations and conditions to ensure your favorite creators may never be able to give you the thing you love ever again.

This guy seriously trying to temper expectations because BG3 is going to make everyone cum and shit at the same time. No RPG studio will ever make a marvel like BG3 ever again.

I'm basically just gonna spam this meme at this point.

When the bar is so low and things are so depressing that they go right back to being funny.

 

[Nerevar]

Bix Nood: Da baldurs gate 3 gonna be epin! and other developers can't do this and shouldn't try

Then why is the combat sub par? Why are the character classes and builds undercooked? Why are all the henchmen garbage people? How does this braindead black explain Solasta and PF they are big games that didn't have the money/experience that Larian has.

Black people should just not be allowed to be on the internet... or exist.

 

[rojay]

"If the theory does not agree with the facts, so much the worse for the facts"

Reminds me of a legal aphorism: "When the facts are in your favor, pound the facts. When the law is in your favor, pound the law. When neither are in your favor, pound the table."

 

[Raghar]

Remember, Sawyer is the guy who though that PE would be a 'BG Killer'. LMAO

And, he thinks 'muscle mage' is a thing. L0LZ

https://amazing-cultivation-simulator.fandom.com/wiki/Body_Part
Well, you can cultivate them in Amazing Cultivation Simulator.

 

[Kem0sabe]

What a retarded take on Larian, BG3 and RPGs.

Howso, isn't it true?

The Bafta nominated He/Him used a bunch of tweets to say nothing. How is BG3 development different than any other AAA game? The Witcher, Cyberpunk, Hogwarts, Elden Ring, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, etc... All spent millions and had hundreds of people working on them, were backed by big names, big ips, big companies, but does the fact that they exist and were successful stop smaller games from being successful? No, Vampire Survivor was one of the top selling games last year, and it was made for peanuts.