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BruceVC

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Funny that Drizzt the snowflake ended up being the reason for a whole population of "good" drow.
The reason is: Can you imagine a "good drow"? If you can imagine it, why can't you play it? No good reason.
In general, restrictions are removed when homebrewing, not added. That's where the community drags things towards.
But there is lore about this, "good " drow reject Lolth and follow other gods

Its not that hard to understand
 

notpl

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Drow Paladin is about as "legal" as Drow Ranger.
They're Chaotic Evil. Lolth is Chaotic Evil. What's the ONE thing that defines Paladins? Their adherence to a fucking code, which means lawfulness.
Paladins are just religious warriors. If there are chaotic evil gods, there should be chaotic evil paladins. It was always stupid.
Those are clerics.

Paladins need lawfulness to adhere to their oaths.
Main power source is their oath, not the god.
If "Chaotic" means "cannot adhere to oaths" (I say "if" because the law/chaos axis has never really meant anything) then it is a stupid descriptor and it is good that it was done away with.
 

Fedora Master

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If "Chaotic" means "cannot adhere to oaths"
Yes it does.
The only reason Drow society doesn't collapse into infighting like an Arab nation is Lolth actively intervening and curbing the worst excesses. This is a fact of the FR lore.
 

whydoibother

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Funny that Drizzt the snowflake ended up being the reason for a whole population of "good" drow.
The reason is: Can you imagine a "good drow"? If you can imagine it, why can't you play it? No good reason.
In general, restrictions are removed when homebrewing, not added. That's where the community drags things towards.
But there is lore about this, "good " drow reject Lolth and follow other gods

Its not that hard to understand
Its kind of like World of Warcraft, which has "good" undead. The forsaken are undead who reject the Lich King hivemind. Bit dodgy lore wise, but its declared to be true and possible, and its cool to have.
 

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Funny that Drizzt the snowflake ended up being the reason for a whole population of "good" drow.
The reason is: Can you imagine a "good drow"? If you can imagine it, why can't you play it? No good reason.
In general, restrictions are removed when homebrewing, not added. That's where the community drags things towards.
If you can imagine a good drow, this means just one thing - you don't know the setting.

Since fewer and fewer people know the setting as the player base widens, restrictions are gradually removed. Until there are no more rules and no more restrictions - everything is left to homebrew. At which point one asks - why even have a D&D system? Don't answer, I know - in order to have a *product* to *sell*.

What about the minority who actually want to abide by the restrictions and actually read up on the setting? Well, they can impose the restrictions back, on their table. This can work fine in TT, but when it comes to a PC adaptation, we are all getting the same game in the end. And people are upset.
 

jaekl

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You know what? Maybe beholders aren't actually all bad after all... we just need to do better with our *communication skills* - they can't all be bad apples!

Now what hole are you supposed to fuck on one of these things...?
 

whydoibother

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Maybe beholders aren't actually all bad after all...
beholders? why not. but drow... have you seen their skin color?
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Zayne

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Like, let's cut the Firkraag questline from BG2, but instead you can play as Jaheira, get some different dialogue options, and her companion quest is bigger? I don't think it's a good trade.
But what if you could play as Imoen and get a choice to side with Bodhi?
 

Shaki

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Like, let's cut the Firkraag questline from BG2, but instead you can play as Jaheira, get some different dialogue options, and her companion quest is bigger? I don't think it's a good trade.
But what if you could play as Imoen and get a choice to side with Bodhi?
I'd rather play as custom PC and get a choice to side with Bodhi
 

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I guess in nuDnD nothing fucking matters anyway, reflecting the disposition of their target audience.
No, just take a look at the D&D Reddit. It's people posting pictures of their characters, and on Discord, they're always debating inane subjects. Even here, it's not much better; no one really cares. Among codexers, there's a large array of opinions. It goes from me, who would like deep tactical combat with attrition, to others who would rather have an extension in co-op mode for their remote-controlled dildos.
 

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