Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Grunker]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

Comparing those two to Shadowheart's quest makes them quite laughable unfortuntately.

Well, in a sense that's true for almost every companion. Shadowheart gets massively more content than any other character. But I get what you're saying, and you're not wrong.

Jaheira as the other optional companion also has very little quest content, her quest is essentially Minsc's.

 

[Shrimp]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

I've read that both of them don't have much going for them in terms of companion interactions once you actually get to bring them into your party. Has anyone tried using them alongside the other late game companions yet? They seem to have plenty of things to talk about at the camp, but what about when you're out exploring the world?

 

[Grunker]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

I've read that both of them don't have much going for them in terms of companion interactions once you actually get to bring them into your party. Has anyone tried using them alongside the other late game companions yet? They seem to have plenty of things to talk about at the camp, but what about when you're out exploring the world?

No, they have almost no interjections, which is funny, because Jaheira has a ton. She even has a unique scene with the durge where she

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watches over them on a night where they would otherwise have to make rolls to resist the urge

 

[Desiderius]

Yes. Very upset.

We'll add Leprechauns instead. Ireland winning for once.

We'll even put a special clause: if you're a bard and you rock a lyre, you gain 10% more EXP.

That sounds like a Bard playthrough, for me, now that I think about it. Hhhmmm...

My Bard is Deep Gnome. Advantage on Mental saves and Stealth plus superior Darkvision with built in Longstrider to get those little legs moving.

 

[Renfri]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

I've read that both of them don't have much going for them in terms of companion interactions once you actually get to bring them into your party. Has anyone tried using them alongside the other late game companions yet? They seem to have plenty of things to talk about at the camp, but what about when you're out exploring the world?

Minthara has things talk about if you ask after major story points and sometimes, but not often commenting other things, like do every other companion I had with me. In that way, she was equal to other compations.

 

[Grunker]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

I've read that both of them don't have much going for them in terms of companion interactions once you actually get to bring them into your party. Has anyone tried using them alongside the other late game companions yet? They seem to have plenty of things to talk about at the camp, but what about when you're out exploring the world?

Minthara has things talk about if you ask after major story points and sometimes commenting other things, like do every other companion I had with me. In that way, she was equal to other compations.

I'm not talking about commenting after, I'm talking about interjections - meaning "budding in" during actual dialogue. Something Lae'zel and Jaheira do a lot, Shadowheart to a lesser extend, but Halsin won't do at all.

 

[Shrimp]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

Comparing those two to Shadowheart's quest makes them quite laughable unfortuntately.

My path through the shadow cursed lands was a messy zig zag so the Shar temple somehow ended up being one of the first things I did on the entire map.
My initial response was to think it was a great part of her companion quest, but then it quickly became obvious that it was just another main story setpiece you'll go through on every single playthrough. Honestly a bit of a shame since it greatly contributes to the 'theme park' feel a lot of people think Larian's games tend to have. I'm not a huge fan of how all the origin characters' stories need to be intertwined with a major character or all the areas you pass through.

 

[Shrimp]

It was quite disappointing that after you get Minthara to join your party, she doesn't have companion quest at all, not even smaller one. It's not for lack of resources, cos there alot of stuff in game.

I think they count the optional companions' joining requirement quests as their companion quests. Halsin's only "personal quest" is the one to get him to join.

I've read that both of them don't have much going for them in terms of companion interactions once you actually get to bring them into your party. Has anyone tried using them alongside the other late game companions yet? They seem to have plenty of things to talk about at the camp, but what about when you're out exploring the world?

Minthara has things talk about if you ask after major story points and sometimes commenting other things, like do every other companion I had with me. In that way, she was equal to other compations.

I'm not talking about commenting after, I'm talking about interjections - meaning "budding in" during actual dialogue. Something Lae'zel and Jaheira do a lot, Shadowheart to a lesser extend, but Halsin won't do at all.

Yeah, this was the kind of thing I had in mind. That's a shame.
I assume you don't get to actually recruit Minthara until the end of act 2/start of act 3 since Halsin seems to just hang out at your camp until you reach the city of Baldur's Gate. I thought she might have had lots of opportunities to have interesting conversations and interactions with lots of the NPCs in act 2, but I suppose there are plot reasons for why she can't be there.
I killed her along with the other goblin leaders in my playthrough but if I do another one I'll try siding with the cultists instead just to see the different outcomes.

 

[Grunker]

since Halsin seems to just hang out at your camp until you reach the city of Baldur's Gate.

Not true - rather, he has a "join quest" which is first

Spoiler

waking up art by getting his lute

then

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saving the child of the forest

then

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a halsin specific quest where you protect him while he is in the shadowlands cleansing the curse

You can do this any time you want in Act 2.

 

[Riddler]

I started a second playthrough on tactician and there I actually felt what you described. You have to use all resources available to you, be strategic and borderline cheese encounters; but on normal? Fights just take a long ass time because there are so many combatants and animation speed is so slow.

Ah, I'm playing on tactician, no idea how it feels on normal

That explains it then. The original post you responded to talked about 'normal'.

 

[Shrimp]

since Halsin seems to just hang out at your camp until you reach the city of Baldur's Gate.

Not true - rather, he has a "join quest" which is first

Spoiler

waking up art by getting his lute

then

Spoiler

saving the child of the forest

then

Spoiler

a halsin specific quest where you protect him while he is in the shadowlands cleansing the curse

You can do this any time you want in Act 2.

Somehow I had completely forgotten about that
I didn't return to the inn until after I had just about cleared everything around moonrise towers so I guess I just mentally thought of him as a companion that joined you much later. I'll have to watch out for that in the future.

 

[Grunker]

It's quite unfortunate I've never been a big Minsc fan, they captured everything about the character and he is arguably more well-written than the original - and perfectly voiced too. They hit the nail on the head with his odd mixture of raving idiocy and strange eloquency. While Jaheira is barely recognizable and exceedingly bland. I expected the opposite, if anything.

 

[Grauken]

It's quite unfortunate I've never been a big Minsc fan, they captured everything about the character and he is arguably more well-written than the original - and perfectly voiced too. They hit the nail on the head with his odd mixture of raving idiocy and strange eloquency. While Jaheira is barely recognizable and exceedingly bland. I expected the opposite, if anything.

Most people who like Minsc do it not because he's a great character but in spite of it, more like ironic enjoyment. Writing him well is more hamming it up than anything.

 

[Lyric Suite]

It's bizzare since Jaheira in BG1 was the perfect stereotype of the stronk wombyn that needs no man. I was expecting them to go back to that, with her nagging the shit out of the player like she did in the first game (killing Khalid in order to keep Jaheira was more of a blessing for him and a curse for the player).

I was always neutral about Minsc. I didn't actively dislike him but i also didn't think much about him. I was happy for Keldorn in BG2 because it allowed me to ditch Minsc as the 2H frontliner (plus Inquirisors were bad ass in BG2).

 

[Grunker]

It's bizzare since Jaheira in BG1 was the perfect stereotype of the stronk wombyn that needs no man

You guys really can't see a strong woman without assuming they're just a girl boss and nothing else. Jaheira was the stereotype of a nagging, annoying wife browbeating her husband and everyone else around her. She was definetely intended to come off as off-putting. Even in BG1 she's characterized thus.

And that's what's missing with her new incarnation. They're trying for a "the years have melllowed her out"-type of deal, but it resulted in her just being a boring, wizened sage. She'll often tell-dont'-show this by outrighly stating "oh, I should have been angry at this" or "oh, I suppose I should give a preaching speech here", and it just does not work at all.

I think they might have been afraid that new players would hate her (or that they would get criticism from feminists) if they actually stuck to her womansplaining, nagging, I-know-better-than-everyone old self.

It's quite unfortunate I've never been a big Minsc fan, they captured everything about the character and he is arguably more well-written than the original - and perfectly voiced too. They hit the nail on the head with his odd mixture of raving idiocy and strange eloquency. While Jaheira is barely recognizable and exceedingly bland. I expected the opposite, if anything.

Most people who like Minsc do it not because he's a great character but in spite of it, more like ironic enjoyment. Writing him well is more hamming it up than anything.

That's not what they've done here. What they've captured is that weird dichotomy between him being a simpleton yet using a very rich vocabulary to express his simple and often idiotic (yet sometimes strangely insightful) speech. It's quite well done if you like that sort of thing. Like I said it's not really for me, but it's basically the best way possible to write the character.

 

[Grunker]

I was happy for Keldorn in BG2 because it allowed me to ditch Minsc as the 2H frontliner (plus Inquirisors were bad ass in BG2).

I thought you would hate Keldorn, his intended storyline being that he is a massive cuck, after all.

 

[Konjad]

How come some of you already finished BG3, I'm still in act 1. You guys have no lives whatsoever or something? No family, no job, just games? WTF

 

[Konjad]

BTW some things:

I have a bug that removes my clothes all the time on myself. Whatever I wear just disappears when I change maps so I have to walk around camp naked.

I also have a Shadowheart bug which turns off her armor visibility to off all the time when i change maps.


Plus, if you side with goblins and kill the grove, goblins party and move on (presumably to another map in another act?), but they leave all their treasure in their treasure room, so you can get some magical items and plenty of gold.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I was happy for Keldorn in BG2 because it allowed me to ditch Minsc as the 2H frontliner (plus Inquirisors were bad ass in BG2).

I thought you would hate Keldorn, his intended storyline being that he is a massive cuck, after all.

I had no thoughts about this stuff when i first played BG2. I just remember liking him more and feeling he was better written than a lot of the other NPCs.

The morality of Keldorn's quest is imposed on you by the devs anyway. You can actually convince him to go to the law which results in his wife going to jail and her lover getting hanged, so he doesn't have to be a "cuck" if you don't want to, even if the devs declared this is not the "good" outcome of the quest. I think i actually did this on one playthrough i forgot lol.

 

[Kiste]

How come some of you already finished BG3, I'm still in act 1. You guys have no lives whatsoever or something? No family, no job, just games? WTF

Yes, no-lifeing through video games that they hate so they can post on the Codex about how everything is "dogshit" is all they have in life. Of course they don't have families. Who would start a family with someone like JamesDixon or Jenkem?

 

[SpaceWizardz]

This game's pacing is fucked. Act 2 has all these big fights/story moments but once you reach Baldur's Gate is regresses into murder mystery/haunted house/missing person antics and a million different other small diversions when the plot is supposed to be finishing up.

 

[turkishronin]

Can you even reject a male by saying "no I'm just not into that thing" or is it all a variation of "I'm not into YOU"

 

[turkishronin]

How come some of you already finished BG3, I'm still in act 1. You guys have no lives whatsoever or something? No family, no job, just games? WTF

one of my friends finished it in 50 hours you're just slow

 

[Lyric Suite]

By the time i finish this game all the bugs will be fixed and the DLC has already been released.

 

[Falksi]

Beat the game. The ending sucks ass. It's ME 3 level of bad.

Whatever you do beforehand barely matters because every choices you make in the ending is almost the same no matter what you do during your playthrough.

There is no ending slides. On top of that, you can't even fucking talking to your companions before the final batter and after the final battle. The ones aren't in your team simply disappears, and never show up again. And even the ones in your team won't necessarily get a resolution to their arc. Gale's personal quest was straight up left unfinished in my playthrough becase the game never asks me what to do with the crown. Shadoweart just stands there the whole time and says nothing. Only La'zel gets a proper ending.

The emperor is a fucking joke, if you don't agree with him he just go fight for the enemy for no reason.

Sounds like you didn't play it on Hard difficulty for the proper ending, where you finally get to fuck the bear back bareback.