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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

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Larian chads just keep on winning.

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lol @ cyberpunk and harry potter. makes sense that elden ring and bg3 get that much engagement, though.
 

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If you are a completionist, and you respec characters often, and you reload to get best outcomes, could be a 100 hour campaign.
Act1 took me 60 hours in-game and 80 hours with reloads, so I guess this is a bit off
You might be a bit of an anomaly, to be honest.
20-30 hours per act seems a reasonable estimation. Less if you go straightforwardly "evil" (join the Absolutists, kill the others), more if you go murderhobo (do all quests you can everywhere, then kill everyone).
If you are a type of player like to move each stone 2x to be sure, the game will surely take you down to 150h.
 

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If you are a completionist, and you respec characters often, and you reload to get best outcomes, could be a 100 hour campaign.
Act1 took me 60 hours in-game and 80 hours with reloads, so I guess this is a bit off
You might be a bit of an anomaly, to be honest.
20-30 hours per act seems a reasonable estimation. Less if you go straightforwardly "evil" (join the Absolutists, kill the others), more if you go murderhobo (do all quests you can everywhere, then kill everyone).
If you are a type of player like to move each stone 2x to be sure, the game will surely take you down to 150h.
Took me 100 hour to finish the game. I did try to explore and do everything in act 1 and 2. Act 3 I mostly rushed cause it was too painful, kinda had to force myself to finish the game tbh.
 

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Doesn't the emperor basically tells you no-no illithids do have souls/feelings and so on ?
I don't think he straight up says that, but our resurrections assistant friend from camp, who should know these things given his slightly concealed past employment, directly says illithids have no souls. The plan was to gather more worshippers for the Dead Three Gods, but illithids can't worship, because they have no souls. So the plan was bad. Haha, morons. Noob mistake, he says.
The Emperor is probably the least reliable source of information there can be. After all, the guy wants the character to transform to make sure you have enough strength to save his tentacled ass.
If he told you that your soul would be destroyed or you would be replaced by a tadpole (even if it had your memories) you would never do what he wants.
 

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The soul and illithid question is very murky in this game. Take Gale's ending, for example.



Mystra offers to restore Gale's soul post-transformation, which leads us to believe that either he doesn't have one, or Mystra is a giant liar, just like Jergal. However, the way she phrases her offer is "Hey, Gale, do you want to get your soul back and go to paradise?", and not, "Hey, you horrific abomination wearing Gale's skinsuit, I am restoring my boytoy's mind and soul, fuck you", which implies she still views him as the same person. Voss, likewise, comes to view illithid Orpheus as Orpheus after he recovers from the initial shock.
 

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Well it would stand to reason, they're working on Wizard's rules after all.
If they didn't want to, WotC could kiss their ass. As far as we know, WoTC didn't pay a cent for BG3.
Not making a DLC for probably the most popular CRPG ever would be stupid because you know people will buy it.
 
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Mystra offers to restore Gale's soul post-transformation, which leads us to believe that either he doesn't have one, or Mystra is a giant liar, just like Jergal. However, the way she phrases her offer is "Hey, Gale, do you want to get your soul back and go to paradise?", and not, "Hey, you horrific abomination wearing Gale's skinsuit, I am restoring my boytoy's mind and soul, fuck you", which implies she still views him as the same person.
I doubt that Larian put too much thought in the metaphysics of it all, but I guess you could justify it from the perspective of retained consciousness if your atypical mindflayer transformation led to that happening. And if the transformation makes you lose your soul, then what Mystra is offering is to reunify it with your body (since as a worshipper of Mystra, Gale's soul was headed to her realm anyway).
 

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After years of playing rpgs, I've long since come to the conclusion that the best way to enjoy the game is to turn off the brain and not think too much about the sense of the plot.
Works almost every time.
 
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Well it would stand to reason, they're working on Wizard's rules after all.
If they didn't want to, WotC could kiss their ass. As far as we know, WoTC didn't pay a cent for BG3.
Not making a DLC for probably the most popular CRPG ever would be stupid because you know people will buy it.
It's not that, Wizards owns D&D and everything Larian does has to comply with their business rules. So if Wizards wants DLC, BG3 will get DLC. These things aren't made following user logic, it's more of a marketing thing, especially when you consider people actually want DLC for the games they buy.
 

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Mystra offers to restore Gale's soul post-transformation, which leads us to believe that either he doesn't have one, or Mystra is a giant liar, just like Jergal. However, the way she phrases her offer is "Hey, Gale, do you want to get your soul back and go to paradise?", and not, "Hey, you horrific abomination wearing Gale's skinsuit, I am restoring my boytoy's mind and soul, fuck you", which implies she still views him as the same person.
I doubt that Larian put too much thought in the metaphysics of it all, but I guess you could justify it from the perspective of retained consciousness if your atypical mindflayer transformation led to that happening. And if the transformation makes you lose your soul, then what Mystra is offering is to reunify it with your body (since as a worshipper of Mystra, Gale's soul was headed to her realm anyway).

Yes, in dnd cosmology, souls are tickets to other planes, specifically the Upper planes (celestial realms) and lower planes (hell basically)or wherever your diety is. They are not your consciousness.

They do contain your memories and most of what makes you, you though.
 
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The soul and illithid question is very murky in this game. Take Gale's ending, for example.



Mystra offers to restore Gale's soul post-transformation, which leads us to believe that either he doesn't have one, or Mystra is a giant liar, just like Jergal. However, the way she phrases her offer is "Hey, Gale, do you want to get your soul back and go to paradise?", and not, "Hey, you horrific abomination wearing Gale's skinsuit, I am restoring my boytoy's mind and soul, fuck you", which implies she still views him as the same person. Voss, likewise, comes to view illithid Orpheus as Orpheus after he recovers from the initial shock.

Mystra was always a bitch
 
Vatnik Wumao
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Yes, in dnd cosmology, souls [...] are not your consciousness.

They do contain your memories and most of what makes you, you though.
Yep, so if your peculiar form of ceremorphosis leads to you retaining your original consciousness, then at that point what you've achieved is splitting yourself into two different beings. Both the soulless body and the incorporeal soul are equally you since they both retain variants of your original consciousness. A metaphysical equivalent to multiple personality disorder as it were. And what Mystra offers is to mend those two personalities back into a single consciousness.
 
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