Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

[S.torch]

I would not say The Outer Worlds is significantly better written.

Maybe it doesn't, but it had a massive PR boost from raiding the Fallout 76 debacle and the "from the creators of Fallout!" PR stunt.

 

[NecroLord]

Frankly I want more games like KoTOR. RTwP works surprisingly well in third person

Both KOTOR 1 and 2 were turn based, though it may seem realtime.
I guess it's "realtime" due to the animations that play out during combat, like dodging an attack or power attacking an enemy.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

That might be true.
On the other hand, if you see Kanban board as microaggression, maybe development isn't job for you.

In general, people who do not understand the importance of hierarchy, time and tasks at work should not be hired at all. Working with someone like that is torture. So Cain's regrets are partially understandable.

 

[Nano]

If you read the history of Fallout's creation, you will discover that Tim was the spiritus movens of the entire enterprise, which is what it is only thanks to other people (for example, often forgotten Boyarsky or disliked Fargo). He mainly dealt with the engine, and the rest was minor contributions to everything, such as a few less important quests.

Please, fellow keyboard warrior, tell me more about how lazy and insignificant Tim Cain is. While you're at it, tell me what you've contributed to the world besides giving your parents depression.

 

[Butter]

Frankly I want more games like KoTOR. RTwP works surprisingly well in third person

Both KOTOR 1 and 2 were turn based, though it may seem realtime.
I guess it's "realtime" due to the animations that play out during combat, like dodging an attack or power attacking an enemy.

They're round-based with pause, like the IE games.

 

[NecroLord]

While you're at it, tell me what you've contributed to the world besides giving your parents depression.

Says the gay dude.
Lmao.

 

[Nano]

Says the gay dude.
Lmao.

My heroin addicted older brother did that for me.

 

[Lemming42]

It think @Lemming42 mixed up Warrens with Burrows- the village of West Tek's test subjects (most prominently talking raccoons).

Oops - yep, I meant the Raccoons. Blame it on sleep deprivation.

 

[ds]

Frankly I want more games like KoTOR. RTwP works surprisingly well in third person

Both KOTOR 1 and 2 were turn based, though it may seem realtime.
I guess it's "realtime" due to the animations that play out during combat, like dodging an attack or power attacking an enemy.

They're round-based with pause, like the IE games.

Real RTwP has never been tried.

 

[Butter]

Real RTwP has never been tried.

*cries in Wisconsin hipster*

 

[La vie sexuelle]

If you read the history of Fallout's creation, you will discover that Tim was the spiritus movens of the entire enterprise, which is what it is only thanks to other people (for example, often forgotten Boyarsky or disliked Fargo). He mainly dealt with the engine, and the rest was minor contributions to everything, such as a few less important quests.

Please, fellow keyboard warrior, tell me more about how lazy and insignificant Tim Cain is. While you're at it, tell me what you've contributed to the world besides giving your parents depression.

Dear Nano,

Why are you asking me to prove things I don't believe?

I didn't write that "Cain is irrelevant", just that he has lost a lot of it.

I didn't say he was "lazy", just "sidelined".

Bisous et bien à vous,

Ton La vie sexuelle

 

[Bulo]

Frankly I want more games like KoTOR. RTwP works surprisingly well in third person

Both KOTOR 1 and 2 were turn based, though it may seem realtime.
I guess it's "realtime" due to the animations that play out during combat, like dodging an attack or power attacking an enemy.

They're round-based with pause, like the IE games.

real time turn based with pause

 

[Infinitron]

I talk about nuance again. This time it's about the struggle that I have with it.

 

[Roguey]

Songs are songs, who gives a damn about the personal lives of the people behind them?

Tim's Book of Slights got so big that he forgot why some companies were on there because he didn't list the reasons for their inclusion.

 

[Koschey]

Seguing from your personal shitlist, which actually exists as a file on your phone and has grown to such gigantic proportions as to be unusable in practice, into how you try not to judge things too quickly is definitely an interesting sight.

 

[Alienman]

... And it all comes back to homosex.

 

[NecroLord]

Songs are songs, who gives a damn about the personal lives of the people behind them?

Tim's Book of Slights got so big that he forgot why some companies were on there because he didn't list the reasons for their inclusion.

He does seem like he has a chip on his shoulder lately.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I think creative people are a combination of hardware and software. The hardware is the mental capacity and individual aptitude and receptivity, the software is the culture and it's spiritual footprint in the soul of the people it has reached, which is what leads certain creative individuals to express themselves in a particular way.

I think the problem with a lot of those old boomer developers is that the software got rewritten over the years. The mental capacity is still there, but what's lacking now is the cultural milieu that he was steeped in during his formative years. The world has changed since he graduated in 1989, and the culture as changed with it. This means he may no longer think or feel like he once did, and also obviously a lot of the people working for him are from the newer generation and most have no experience with the kind of cultural influence that led to Fallout in the first place.

 

[ds]

I think the problem with a lot of those old boomer developers is that the software got rewritten over the years.

Game devs aren't exactly known for being security conscious so most probably just left their brain partition world writable. But in Tim's case I suspect there might have been a backdoor involved.

 

[Infinitron]

The truth at last?

I talk about the influence of Wasteland (1988) on Fallout (1997), both made at Interplay.

 

[Roguey]

Just reiterating what he's said before: a lot of people on the Fallout team didn't play Wasteland, some who did didn't like it, most who did never finished it, some things in Fallout were deliberate callbacks, most were coincidences, they didn't even want it to be a Wasteland sequel because that would come with creative constraints. He notes that Wasteland 3 and Fallout 4/76 evolved to become very different games setting-wise.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

The truth at last?

Remember my theory that he said he liked the Fallout show because it drives views on his YouTube channel? Yeah.

 

[Infinitron]

I'm not sure I buy that the similarity between Cochise and Mariposa is a coincidence.

Tim says "lots of people on the team didn't play Wasteland" as if that's supposed to mean something. But you only need one person (presumably Scott Campbell) who did play it to suggest ideas that everybody else goes with, perhaps without even realizing those ideas are inspired by Wasteland.

 

[Old Hans]

Just reiterating what he's said before: a lot of people on the Fallout team didn't play Wasteland, some who did didn't like it, most who did never finished it, some things in Fallout were deliberate callbacks, most were coincidences

this sounds like a massive cover up full of lies

"Your honor, people of the jury, my client never even finished Wasteland...why would he steal ideas from it?"

 

[Infinitron]