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Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

PapaPetro

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The amount of Codexers that feel the need to consistently reiterate to other Codexers that they didn't like The Outer Worlds is astonishing. That game must be more beloved here than anywhere else on the web!
:greatjob:
I just never bothered to play it.
 

PapaPetro

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I just never bothered to play it.
Which is fair.
I did my due diligence; checked out some LPs, sorted the Steam reviews by negative to see the consensus on the flaws, checked the mod scene, etc.
Saves me time & money as much as I want to play everything myself to find out.

Kinda feel bad for new games these days. They got a lot of competition from the past that still holds up.
 

likash

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Fargo really did him dirty with the bonus stuff and showed some serious lack of wisdom. While i understand that he was pissed off for the delay, punishing his best programmer because he would not snitch on his team was a very very very stupid decision.
How the fuck do you motivate a guy who just showed you he has integrity by taking away his bonus? He should fucking apologize to Cain and let him work on the Arcanum IP now that Microsoft has it. He already has Jason Anderson at InXile and if Tim joins then Boyarksy will surely follow. He has the resources and the Troika dudes can concentrate solely on the game. They have around 5 years tops before they burn out completly. At least they can make a proper Arcanum before they retire and Fargo can redeem himself with a proper RPG game.
 

Maldoror

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Kinda feel bad for new games these days. They got a lot of competition from the past that still holds up.
It really is a shame that the 90s and early 2000s were the peak of many game genres - I genuinely feel bad for modern gamedevs. At least, the ones who are putting in a sincere effort.
On that note though, there are so many fantastic games in the indie scene that there is simply not enough time to play most games. There are games releasing that have competition from titles I bought years ago that have been collecting dust in my Steam or GOG library. Tough.
 

Melcar

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Well someone had to take the blame. Maybe it was better to dock the bonuses of everyone.
The buck stops with the leader. No?
Fargo should have docked Fargo's bonus?
In other words, he should have fucked himself.
Yes.
A bad leader privatizes his victories and socializes his losses.
A good leader shares his Ws and owns his Ls.
So you can say his mistake was entrusting Cain with the job.
 

PapaPetro

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Well someone had to take the blame. Maybe it was better to dock the bonuses of everyone.
The buck stops with the leader. No?
Fargo should have docked Fargo's bonus?
In other words, he should have fucked himself.
Yes.
A bad leader privatizes his victories and socializes his losses.
A good leader shares his Ws and owns his Ls.
So you can say his mistake was entrusting Cain with the job.
The
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of Fallout 1 was worth it.
 
Vatnik
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I had the weirdest dream today. I was on some kind of a school trip as a kid, and Tim Cain and his boyfriend were our tour guides. We were in a hotel, and the only way to exit my room was through Tim Cain's room. I tried going out, but Tim and his bf were banging each other, and Tim jumped up and scolded me that I entered his room. I explained that there's no other way but through his my room. So he agreed that it was okay then, and then offered to show me an early Fallout 1 build with GURPS in it, in exchange for a bit of anal sex.

Don't ask me if I enjoyed the early build, I did NOT agree!
 

Infinitron

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Another day of Cain:



I answer many questions that have been asked over the last few weeks, so hopefully people can watch this video and refer back to it if those questions are asked again.

In brief, here's what I cover:

- This channel is to talk about the game development of my own games.

- I’m not trying to start a Kickstarter, make a new IP, or reform Troika.

- I don’t own the rights to Fallout, Arcanum, or Bloodlines, so I cannot make a remaster or a sequel. Contact Bethesda or Activision for questions about that.

- I do own the code for Arcanum and Temple but I cannot release it. Contracts and NDAs still apply. I have compiled them on modern compilers, for fun.

- I’m currently a contractor, working for several companies, including Obsidian. I’m not an employee of Obsidian or Microsoft or any other company.

- I’m working on TOW2, but as a contractor. I’m not the director.

- I’m not going to play other people’s games, or rank them, or review them.

- I didn’t work on Fallout New Vegas. It shipped the year before I started at Obsidian, so I have no stories to tell about it.

- I don’t want to talk about events I didn’t witness, and I never want to tell you what someone else was thinking or feeling or planning. Because I don’t know. I can just tell you what they did.

- I’m not going to do regular interviews with other developers, but as questions about my games accumulate that I don’t have answers to, I’ll invite old colleagues on to answer those questions

- Why am I doing this? I’m now the age my father was when he passed away. I want some of the stories remembered, and apparently I’m a better speaker than a writer. So you get videos instead of a book.

- It’s hard to tell true stories. Everyone remembers events differently. Even with my notes, people have disagreed with me. Often it’s a matter of subtle difference, e.g. we had made the Temple starting area for Fallout 2 early on, but it wasn’t a tutorial and it was skippable. That’s one of the reasons I implore you not to cast my stories with heroes and villains. That changes with perspective, either from different people’s viewpoints or the same persons viewpoint changing over time. As I’ve gotten older and my color vision has faded, ironically I see things less as black and white. I recommend you do the same.
 

Yosharian

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Lol guys it was a joke. I didn't actually thumb down the video.

I fucking hate that game though.

It was interesting hearing how much of a dick Fargo is/was
 

Roguey

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So Leonard confirmed that the Temple of Trials always existed as a place where you acquire your vault suit. The world-building decline was there from the start (much like the goofy vault experiments idea).
 

Melcar

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So Leonard confirmed that the Temple of Trials always existed as a place where you acquire your vault suit. The world-building decline was there from the start (much like the goofy vault experiments idea).

I guess that is why Cain says he does not like/do sequels. He always fucks them up with silly shit.
 

Diggfinger

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Another day of Cain:



He says he will bring on Jason Anderson.

JASON....Friggin' .... Anderson....

I mean, has that man ever been interviewed? On camera, like ever?

One of the most brilliant and private developers ever IMO.
I tried to get him on Matt Chat years ago (around 2015) and failed miserably. Just wasnt interested.
Didn't even wanna answer questions for Da Codex :eek::oops:

Boy, if that happens. Cain's YT will go down in history :cool:
 

Butter

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I'm always surprised that people care about The Temple of Trials, but then I remember Spoony spending an hour failing to get through it.
Granted, it IS shit, but it's just because it's a 3-5 minute time waster in contrast to Fallout's 30 second opening cave. I never understood the people who found it difficult or obtuse.
Probably Bethestards going backwards and being told that Fallout 2 is better than 1, so they jump in and get filtered because of brain damage.
 

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