CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Rahdulan]

I wonder if it's any comfort for CDPR that user score keeps rising on Metacritic while the other one is dropping. Sure is good to hear employee bonus is no longer tied to that cancerous site.

 

[Terra]

I expect PS4/XB1 versions to be stabilised as best they can in coming months but I reckon that both will ultimately be retired in favour of next gen only free enhanced editions. There's no way they'll want to continue fighting past gen hardware if they have any serious plans to build on the game moving forwards. Think I recall DA:Inquisition ultimately ditched last gen support for later dlcs, wouldn't be surprised to see a similar approach here, people will be pissed but if they get a promised free upgrade on their future plastic box of choice, it'll ultimately blow over.

 

[Danikas]

Best bromance

Spoiler

 

[Keshik]

Panam was a fun character, the mission to get Saul out was fun as well, although was laughing at how trivial it would have been if my character was built differently, you can just waltz in the escape tunnel get him and get out, maybe only having to drop 1 or 2 hostiles.

 

[Black]

Best bromance

Spoiler

His voice is so incredibly shitty, it's like a westerner tried to do the most cliche Japanese accent.

 

[Trithne]

Well now the game doesn't run. Loaded my save and it crashed opening the map, then I tried a couple of other things and it would still crash a few seconds into play. Did a verify/repair and now it doesn't even get to the title screen. Back to work I guess

 

[Danikas]

His voice is so incredibly shitty, it's like a westerner tried to do the most cliche Japanese accent.

Bruh that's an actual japanese actor speaking english seems most stereotypes are based on reality.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437172/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

 

[Funposter]

His voice is so incredibly shitty, it's like a westerner tried to do the most cliche Japanese accent.

Bruh that's an actual japanese actor speaking english seems most stereotypes are based on reality.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437172/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

Cliche Japanese accents sounds like that because, well...have you listened to Japanese people try to speak English? Younger people tend to sound less like that now, because English teachers try to teach them the 'L' sound and get them to accentuate it, but many speakers (especially older) still have that "choppy" sound and rhythm to their speech.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Best bromance

Spoiler

Ah yes Paul Denton San. I was really surprised at that last mission with him they don't even tell you about the secret ending. They at least tried it on its just a shame that the entire game wasn't like this. He is basically this games Paul Denton so I didn't mind him.

 

[gurugeorge]

His voice is so incredibly shitty, it's like a westerner tried to do the most cliche Japanese accent.

Bruh that's an actual japanese actor speaking english seems most stereotypes are based on reality.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437172/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

Cliche Japanese accents sounds like that because, well...have you listened to Japanese people try to speak English? Younger people tend to sound less like that now, because English teachers try to teach them the 'L' sound and get them to accentuate it, but many speakers (especially older) still have that "choppy" sound and rhythm to their speech.

The funniest one I thought was when Johnny's being interrogated after the bombing, and the guy keeps asking "where did you get the fisso material?"

 

[Black]

His voice is so incredibly shitty, it's like a westerner tried to do the most cliche Japanese accent.

Bruh that's an actual japanese actor speaking english seems most stereotypes are based on reality.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0437172/?ref_=tt_cl_t8

Cliche Japanese accents sounds like that because, well...have you listened to Japanese people try to speak English? Younger people tend to sound less like that now, because English teachers try to teach them the 'L' sound and get them to accentuate it, but many speakers (especially older) still have that "choppy" sound and rhythm to their speech.

Not only that, but it takes them forever to say one short sentence. Yeesh.
I think it would've been better if they just let him speak Japanese and have your game ui translate it like the game already does whenever a latinx character throws in a token taco word.

 

[gurugeorge]

i get all the money went into the city and all the set pieces, which have an unbelievable level of detail, but damn, the rest is barely a playable beta.

Yea its already been said here but it does feel more and more like they spent 8 years working on graphics/art design/aesthetics and then maybe 1 or 2 years madly crunching out the actual game systems...

Very curious to see if we get an expose on Cyberpunk development at some point and it is revealed that the game was completely rebuilt from scratch sometime during the process. Cos its looking more and more like that happened. Or maybe its just a bunch of lazy AF Polacks?

From what I've read in the dim mists of the past (so I could be wrong) they had an earlier try at the game (when that really cool CGI teaser with the mantis claw girl came out) but scrapped it, so what we have now may not have been in 8 years of development. More like 3 or 4 probably.

Again, this is one of the complaints about CDPR's working practices - that they bin huge amounts of stuff and start over again quite often. I recall reading that the boss guy claimed it as a virtue, but to me it seems like bad management.

 

[TheDiceMustRoll]

This game looks and plays like a mixture of a looter-shooter with retarded bullet sponge enemies, floating damage numbers, fucking "legendary" items, lots of useless items to loot. Also, a bit of a poor man's GTA, mixed with Deus Ex. It claims to be an RPG and yet doesn't allow any role-playing. I have not seen a single moment that the player is allowed to have a tangible effect on the behavior of the PC. Aside from their superficial appearance, everything about them has already been established. They already know what they want and like it or not, you are simply pushed forward in the story the game wants to tell you. How is this role-playing? Also, how does one role-play in a game with no karma/morality/relationship system anyway? This isn't a bloody tabletop game which you play with other people who observe and judge your actions, in the absence of other players, you must have some system to track the effects of the player's actions on the PC as well as NPCs. How can you claim that you're "role-playing" if no one in the game reacts to what you've been doing? Even retarded Bethesda games have a simple relationship system that the player can influence FFS. Having multiple options to tackle a quest is NOT "role-playing" by the way, let's get that straight. Just because I have multiple transportation options to choose from to go to work, it doesn't mean that I'm "role-playing" every morning.

WHERE'S MY KARMA SYSTEM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME TODD HOWARD

 

[gurugeorge]

Started a male Nomad - man, the male voice acting for V is so much better than the female. I feel sorry for the female actress because it feels more like bad direction - she's trying to pump too much emotion into the lines too often, when really VO in games should, I think, be quite neutral in tone, because players' heads are going to read their own emotional tone into the voice acting. The director should have caught that, because she's obviously capable of delivering good lines in places.

 

[gurugeorge]

This game looks and plays like a mixture of a looter-shooter with retarded bullet sponge enemies, floating damage numbers, fucking "legendary" items, lots of useless items to loot. Also, a bit of a poor man's GTA, mixed with Deus Ex. It claims to be an RPG and yet doesn't allow any role-playing. I have not seen a single moment that the player is allowed to have a tangible effect on the behavior of the PC. Aside from their superficial appearance, everything about them has already been established. They already know what they want and like it or not, you are simply pushed forward in the story the game wants to tell you. How is this role-playing? Also, how does one role-play in a game with no karma/morality/relationship system anyway? This isn't a bloody tabletop game which you play with other people who observe and judge your actions, in the absence of other players, you must have some system to track the effects of the player's actions on the PC as well as NPCs. How can you claim that you're "role-playing" if no one in the game reacts to what you've been doing? Even retarded Bethesda games have a simple relationship system that the player can influence FFS. Having multiple options to tackle a quest is NOT "role-playing" by the way, let's get that straight. Just because I have multiple transportation options to choose from to go to work, it doesn't mean that I'm "role-playing" every morning.

WHERE'S MY KARMA SYSTEM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME TODD HOWARD

Was about to say, I can't think of anything more awful than rep systems- especially telepathic ones (though I suppose in a game like this your "rep" could spread by cyber means) - and they do NOT scream "RPG" to me. RPG is a good progression system and C&C. Immersive sim adds multiple paths to do a thing. End of story. Anything else, if developers can pull it off, is just gravy.

Also factions, factions are always terrible but some people seem to love them and many developers seem to feel obliged to stick them in their games.

(*sigh* I suppose I should play that Troika vampire game, which apparently does factions well, but I can't stand vampire stuff.)

Also, why do people keep saying "bullet sponge enemies?" In my game (played on Hard), I haven't seen any bullet sponge enemies of the kind that were shown in some of those early vids that came out (apart from skulls and bosses obvs). Git gud.

 

[Danikas]

Started a male Nomad - man, the male voice acting for V is so much better than the female. I feel sorry for the female actress because it feels more like bad direction - she's trying to pump too much emotion into the lines too often, when really VO in games should, I think, be quite neutral in tone, because players' heads are going to read their own emotional tone into the voice acting. The director should have caught that, because she's obviously capable of delivering good lines in places.

Male V is much better listen to his dialogue in the heist mission very convincing.

 

[Kruno]

Male V is much better listen to his dialogue in the heist mission very convincing.

Having sex with a male vagina just doesn't sit right with me.

 

[Robber Baron]

Also, why do people keep saying "bullet sponge enemies?"

Wrong builds I guess, so far stealth is pretty broken for most of the situations, stealth and hacking is downright cheating in my playthrough, and you dont even need to dip that much in either of them to be broken. Add a small arms specialisation on top of it to dominate sections where you can't sneak (Mass debuff hack + handgun headshots), add some defensive cyberware and you're literally a demigod

 

[Taxnomore]

I walk into a bar.
I sit at the counter.

Guy walks in, points a gun at the owner, asks for everyone's money.

I talk him down. Criminal runs out.

Owner is thankful : "Order anything you want ! It's on the house."

Shop menu appears. Everything has a price tag.

 

[True Ukrainian]

i get all the money went into the city and all the set pieces, which have an unbelievable level of detail, but damn, the rest is barely a playable beta.

Yea its already been said here but it does feel more and more like they spent 8 years working on graphics/art design/aesthetics and then maybe 1 or 2 years madly crunching out the actual game systems...

Very curious to see if we get an expose on Cyberpunk development at some point and it is revealed that the game was completely rebuilt from scratch sometime during the process. Cos its looking more and more like that happened. Or maybe its just a bunch of lazy AF Polacks?

From what I've read in the dim mists of the past (so I could be wrong) they had an earlier try at the game (when that really cool CGI teaser with the mantis claw girl came out) but scrapped it, so what we have now may not have been in 8 years of development. More like 3 or 4 probably.

Again, this is one of the complaints about CDPR's working practices - that they bin huge amounts of stuff and start over again quite often. I recall reading that the boss guy claimed it as a virtue, but to me it seems like bad management.

That was the build the original author said had classes and followed the pnp system more closely.

 

[Robber Baron]

Owner is thankful

Thank you fellow cybercitizen!

 

[Taxnomore]

I am pretty sure they are going to cancel the multiplayer to work on Witcher 4.

Spent three more hours on it last night and I still had a fantastic time. It s a great game if you don't overanalyze things, like most AAA.

 

[Robber Baron]

I am pretty sure they are going to cancel the multiplayer to work on Witcher 4.

They've put a lot of money into Cyberpunk brand recongnition. Can't imagine them not cashing on it at least with a DLC or two

 

[Ezeekiel]

Wish you could dual wield pistol/revolver/smg + sword or something like that like in EYE Divine Cybermancy.
Of course none of the guns are as cool as that super-fast rpm machine pistol in EYE, and cyberpunk doesn't have a minigun etc either.

Love the sound design on the anti material rifle though (the grad).

 

[undecaf]

It s a great game if you don't overanalyze things, like most AAA.

There is a reasonably entertaining game under there somewhere, but it does need retuning and a few more bells and whistles. It can be felt even if one doesn’t overanalyze it, or get an aneurysm over the bugs.