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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

Zer0wing

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Have you met many Poles?
I didn't made myself clear enough then. Devs have been stuck in loop with this "This game is not about saving the world, it's about saving yourself and that's what real Cyberpunk is!" from 2012 up until the game's release but the story, when it's time to wrap things up, says FUCK YOU, SPIKE DIES, BE DEPRESSED! Even though main protagonist goes above and beyond to save himself, even at the expence of other peoples life. I'd be okay with decent enough ending would be very hard to achieve, being a secret ending even. But at least being there. For all shit David Cage gets (rightly so), at least Detroit: Become Human does have nearly unachievable ending that concludes the story better than non-secret ones.
 
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Have you met many Poles?
I didn't made myself clear enough then. Devs have been stuck in loop with this "This game is not about saving the world, it's about saving yourself and that's what real Cyberpunk is!" from 2012 up until the game's release but the story, when it's time to wrap things up, says FUCK YOU, SPIKE DIES, BE DEPRESSED! Even though main protagonist goes above and beyond to save himself, even at the expence of other peoples life. I'd be okay with decent enough ending would be very hard to achieve, being a secret ending even. But at least being there.

Again, have you met many poles?

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witcher books aren't very well written, the cdpr writers did a much better job

I liked the witcher short story collections quite well. The witcher novels are actually not that great, so I'd agree with you there.

The novels are straight up bad by the standards of commercial fantasy fiction. They certainly go on for way too long. The short stories are indeed pretty good. CDPR spun a mediocre and derivative license into gold. They also made Ciri, who is annoying and thoroughly unsympathetic in the novels, into a compelling character. If they had ported book Ciri into the Witcher 3 faithfully, it probably would have been considered a failed game. Not even the Netflix series had the balls (for FEMINISM) to adapt book Ciri.
 

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Again, have you met many poles?

I second this.

In Poland, don't ever try to strike up a conversation with a stranger, unless you're very old, a very hot woman or a gigachad. Don't EVER smile at people, you must look miserable and annoyed. If you've been successful in life, you likely took advantage of people and you suck. Don't ever act as if you're satisfied with yourself, you're mediocre and definitely don't deserve it.

Think you have what it takes to be a Polack? Call 1-800-MARYJA and find out!
 

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I dont get why ppl still cling on to this pile of shit and can't move on.

i can only speak for myself but if you're a cyberpunk autist like me who has been dreaming for an AAA open world cyberpunk game that's true to the genre for all his life this game is all we have

Mankind Divided is not open-world open-world and it's not flawless but it is AAA, it's well written, looks gorgeous and is 10x better as an RPG than CP.

I'm sorry but the two Deus Ex sequels were fucking trash. I liked the first one but subsequent playthroughs have me realizing it is really just awful. And the second was bad from the start. They completely missed the point of DX and instead of cool-guy, millennial flavored conspiracy theorizing and one-liners we got poorly written Canadian political propaganda complete with interracial gangs in Detroit. Oh, then we move to Prague for some reason, with shoe-horned in references to the Illuminati (again, they missed the fucking point).

Also the combat was easy.
 
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I dont get why ppl still cling on to this pile of shit and can't move on.

i can only speak for myself but if you're a cyberpunk autist like me who has been dreaming for an AAA open world cyberpunk game that's true to the genre for all his life this game is all we have

Mankind Divided is not open-world open-world and it's not flawless but it is AAA, it's well written, looks gorgeous and is 10x better as an RPG than CP.

I'm sorry but the two Deus Ex sequels were fucking trash. I liked the first one but subsequent playthroughs have me realizing it is really just awful. And the second was bad from the start. They completely missed the point of DX and instead of cool-guy, millennial flavored conspiracy theorizing and one-liners we got poorly written Canadian political propaganda complete with interracial gangs in Detroit. Oh, then we move to Prague for some reason, with shoe-horned in references to the Illuminati (again, they missed the fucking point).

Also the combat was easy.

I always thought a true prequel to Deus Ex would be 80's cyberpunk mixed with X-Files. You're some kind of investigator going through real world conspiracies and the writing drops actual red pills on you like sweets at a sweet shop just as the first Deus Ex did. If you're not even a little inspired by the real world shenanigans going on you're not making a Deus Ex game. Even if you don't believe in the conspiracy stuff it was fun to go through Area 51, seeing all those David Icke style Grey clones and MiB. They really did their research in that first game. It does what frankly no other game ever has actually done and transcends it's medium. Aging like wine not just on the basis of it's gameplay but for the real world facts and pulling of the curtain it does.





Cyberpunk was never going to do that. Neither were the Deus Ex sequels. Deus Ex actually pointed out that the Emperor has no clothes and that can never be allowed to happen again.
 
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They also made Ciri, who is annoying and thoroughly unsympathetic in the novels, into a compelling character
They made her into annoying and unsympathetic deus ex machina.
Seriously how exactly she defeated the White Frost?
And how exactly playing snowballs with her impacts her capability to defeat the White Frost?
But to hell with White Frost.
What really interests me is how do you cirifags explain her heels? Because as i see it Geralt should tear these heels out the moment he sees it because fighting on the heels is sure way to die.
W3 is so fucking ridiculous..
 
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People are claiming CDPR isnt talking about the paid DLC because they are thinking on canning them. Could it be true or are they just tight lipped because they still dont know what features they cut on the base game and are going to charge for on the DLC?
They know talking about paid DLC would be horribad PR until the game is patched.
 

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People are claiming CDPR isnt talking about the paid DLC because they are thinking on canning them. Could it be true or are they just tight lipped because they still dont know what features they cut on the base game and are going to charge for on the DLC?
They know talking about paid DLC would be horribad PR until the game is patched.
This is the correct answer, imv. Any -- ANY -- talk of DLC, whether paid or not, would be intentionally subjecting themselves to terrible PR. "Why are CDPR talking about DLC when the base game isn't finished??!?!" would be bad enough, but if they were announcing paid DLC? That's basically asking for the Germans to invade again.
 
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People are claiming CDPR isnt talking about the paid DLC because they are thinking on canning them. Could it be true or are they just tight lipped because they still dont know what features they cut on the base game and are going to charge for on the DLC?
They know talking about paid DLC would be horribad PR until the game is patched.
This is the correct answer, imv. Any -- ANY -- talk of DLC, whether paid or not, would be intentionally subjecting themselves to terrible PR. "Why are CDPR talking about DLC when the base game isn't finished??!?!" would be bad enough, but if they were announcing paid DLC? That's basically asking for the Germans to invade again.

Hitler would've made sure Cyberpunk 2077 was a game the Codex would like.
 
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They've been talking about free DLC, since those are basically updates with a more appealing name. No mention of paid ones until 2022, which isn't too out there since Blood & Wine was released a year after vanilla Witcher 3.

Cyberpunk 2077 — Our Commitment to Quality - Cyberpunk 2077 — from the creators of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

Q: You have said there would be free DLC for the game in ‘early 2021’, will this be impacted by improvements?

A: We’re still planning on releasing free DLC for the game, just like with The Witcher 3. However, we have decided that our priority is working on the most important fixes and updates. We will be releasing free DLC afterwards — we’ll have more to say about that in the coming months.

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I'm sorry but the two Deus Ex sequels were fucking trash. I liked the first one but subsequent playthroughs have me realizing it is really just awful. And the second was bad from the start. They completely missed the point of DX and instead of cool-guy, millennial flavored conspiracy theorizing and one-liners we got poorly written Canadian political propaganda complete with interracial gangs in Detroit. Oh, then we move to Prague for some reason, with shoe-horned in references to the Illuminati (again, they missed the fucking point).
World building is trash too due to the fact that they focus all their attention on one element in first one AUGMENTATIONS is all people talk about and in the second one DISCRIMINATION is focus of all quests and conversations its fucking trash.

Even all the posters you find in the world are about one fucking thing its artificial as fuck even nazi germany didnt spam so hard with anti jew propaganda.

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But.... he would have removed gay romances the ability to put a dick on a womyn.
That is not what the 'dex stands for. :obviously:
Y negro Hitler would never support a tranny.

Heinrich Ratjen (20 November 1918 – 22 April 2008),[1] born Dora Ratjen, was a German athlete who competed for Germany in the women's high jump at the 1936 Summer Olympics at Berlin, finishing fourth, but was later determined to be male and/or intersex.[2] In some news reports, he was erroneously referred to as Hermann Ratjen and Horst Ratjen.


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Learn some fucking history you tards.
 
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Zer0wing

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World building is trash too due to the fact that they focus all their attention on one element in first one AUGMENTATIONS is all people talk about and in the second one DISCRIMINATION is focus of all quests and conversations its fucking trash.

Even all the posters you find in the world are about one fucking thing its artificial as fuck even nazi germany didnt spam so hard with anti jew propaganda.
Square Enix panders to american leftards, what a suprise.
 

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I dont get why ppl still cling on to this pile of shit and can't move on.

i can only speak for myself but if you're a cyberpunk autist like me who has been dreaming for an AAA open world cyberpunk game that's true to the genre for all his life this game is all we have

Mankind Divided is not open-world open-world and it's not flawless but it is AAA, it's well written, looks gorgeous and is 10x better as an RPG than CP.

I'm sorry but the two Deus Ex sequels were fucking trash. I liked the first one but subsequent playthroughs have me realizing it is really just awful. And the second was bad from the start. They completely missed the point of DX and instead of cool-guy, millennial flavored conspiracy theorizing and one-liners we got poorly written Canadian political propaganda complete with interracial gangs in Detroit. Oh, then we move to Prague for some reason, with shoe-horned in references to the Illuminati (again, they missed the fucking point).

Also the combat was easy.

I am truly astonished by how many people on the Codex think DX:HR and -- even more fucking unbelievable -- DX MD were good RPGs. What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
I am truly astonished by how many people on the Codex think DX:HR and -- even more fucking unbelievable -- DX MD were good RPGs. What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?

If you're comparing this FP aRPG to something like Wizardry 7 then no, DXDM is not a great RPG. Also YOU are the idiot here.

But both nuDXs are great DX games, well written, well produced, with great level design and fun gameplay.
 

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Fun games maybe, but I'm not sure how you can argue that Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are great DX games, or that they're well written. Neither game has anything half as thought-provoking or tragic as Gunther Hermann, the man who traded away his humanity to become a better weapon and is thrown on the scrap heap the moment a better weapon comes along.
 

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