Diablo IV

[luj1]

Diablo hasn't felt like a near hopeless struggle after D1. The player massacres demons by the hundreds with ease.

and it's all the worse for it

just play HC then

 

[luj1]

Even softcore made you sweat bricks. The idea that you can just nilly willy wank through D2 SP solo self found or SP is ludicrous.

I played SSF and offline my whole life

Its not easy to complete Hell because every build has a weakness

And there are plenty of enemies that can surprise you

Fana/Zeal probably the easiest build to play in the game. Get some CB on your weapon, Holy Shield up, and Life Tap wand on switch. Plus Holy Freeze merc and you need CBF.

 

[Sykar]

Ironically Normal is more of a nightmare than Nightmare difficulty in LoD.

 

[HereticGuy]

Whenever I think about to play hardcore, I remember "looking for Baal, bitch?!"... and give up that idea.

 

[Dadd]

All you are proving here is that you did not play D2 much if at all. But do keep going.

How did I do that? Just pointing out the habits of hc players who go against their alleged principles when they actually matter. Must mean I don't play D2 much. But keep bringing up irrelevant points that don't counter anything I said.

 

[Dadd]

By the way, any game you can pause within half a second by pressing a single button (ie single player "hardcore") is inherently casual. If you play "hardcore" in single player, you are a greasy scrub taking credit for real hardcore players (ie multiplayer hardcore) who risk dying every moment - without the option to pause by pressing esc. Even in real hardcore mode, that is multiplayer hardcore, D2 is inherently not a difficult game that requires much skill unless you are manually challenged.

 

[Dadd]

Cringe all you want rusty. I say this as a veteran who lost his level 98 necro in PD2 real hardcore to a stray buffed-up flesh lancer followed by a whole pack of them just a month ago. Just because you can die doesn't mean it's difficult. It's just a matter of learning the numbers.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Cringe all you want rusty. I say this as a veteran who lost his level 98 necro in PD2 real hardcore to a stray buffed-up flesh lancer followed by a whole pack of them just a month ago. Just because you can die doesn't mean it's difficult. It's just a matter of learning the numbers.

I barely even read your post, I just think d2 is crap.

 

[Dadd]

It's shit, but good shit

 

[Daedalos]

Imagine thinking the pinnacle of the ARPG genre, Diablo 2, is a bad game.

It's STILL unrivaled after 25 years. And fuck off with Path of niggerxile, that game is cancer.

 

[HereticGuy]

I'm not that knowledgable in ARPG genre; so Diablo 2 may be good on it's own genre, but as a game it isn't good for me. Movement = mouse click, attacking = mouse click, using skills = mouse click, taking items = mouse click, asking Deckard Cain why he looks like Patrick Stewart and sounds like Sean Connery = mouse click...

Diablo 2's official box art should be like this :

 

[Dadd]

Oh no no no D4 bros...

 

[Grotesque]

Oh no no no D4 bros...

respec part is retarded, not that I support respec

also trading part is the least of D4's problems

 

[ArchAngel]

I do not agree about respec part, it should be hard. I not against some respec but it should be closer to D2 than D3. I had zero reason to play same class more than once in D3. While playing them I tried all combinations I could think of, I had no reason to go back to try something else.

 

[Dadd]

Respeccing is inherently casual. It would be cool if item drops were balanced around self found, but that is probably not the reason they will be messing with trading.

 

[Peachcurl]

Respeccing should be "costly", but I see no reason to make it more costly than rerolling. Making it more costly than rerolling is just an obvious way to keep players involved beyond reasonable play-hours. Yay, more repetition of completely trivial game content.

 

[Desiderius]

self found

Was so stoked about D3 then one step into Auction House and that was that. If people are going to buy/sell items might as well make it MMO-lite because it ruins SP straight-up.

 

[Goldschmidt]

Smart loot and no free trading for highest rarity tiers. This game is made for console peasant special snowflake butterflies. POE Ruthless Hardcore will be the place to be.

 

[Average Manatee]

Diablo 2 gameplay was fundamentally broken by skill trees (game was still fun but balance and itemization is a joke). Diablo 3 tried to fix this but made it worse and retarded in the process.

 

[Dadd]

I think the next great Diablo-like will be, not Path of Exile 2, not Diablo IV, but Bloodborne II's Chalice Dungeons.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

 

[d1r]

Smart loot is such a despicable feature. Reason alone not to buy Diablo IV.

 

[somerandomdude]

I prefer self-found over trading. I've gotten my fill of games with economies from playing Path of Exile.

Loot 2.0 was the best thing that could have happened to Diablo 3, even though it wasn't perfect. I remember playing that game within the first month it released, and it was nearly impossible to gear up, a lot of players got to hell mode and hit a massive gear wall, and quit. If you wanted to overcome the gear wall, you had to get your wallet out, or be a streamer who had people feeding upgrades to you, or play the game 14-16hrs a day, 7 days a week. It was way harder to gear up at launch Diablo 3 than it ever was in any PoE league. Some people were good at playing economy simulator and actually made money on D3's RMAH. Therein lies the problem, I'd rather my ARPG be an ARPG and not another market/economy to exploit. Why can't games simply be games?

It really comes down to the question of, would you rather find your own loot, or would you rather have to trade or pay real money for it? Solo-self found loot also kills 3rd party currency/item vendors who charge real money - case and point being PoE and D2. I'd rather whales not be able to open their wallets and have all the best stuff, I'd rather those faggots have to earn it in game.

For the record, I have no intentions of playing D4.

 

[ArchAngel]

I prefer self-found over trading. I've gotten my fill of games with economies from playing Path of Exile.

Loot 2.0 was the best thing that could have happened to Diablo 3, even though it wasn't perfect. I remember playing that game within the first month it released, and it was nearly impossible to gear up, a lot of players got to hell mode and hit a massive gear wall, and quit. If you wanted to overcome the gear wall, you had to get your wallet out, or be a streamer who had people feeding upgrades to you, or play the game 14-16hrs a day, 7 days a week. It was way harder to gear up at launch Diablo 3 than it ever was in any PoE league. Some people were good at playing economy simulator and actually made money on D3's RMAH. Therein lies the problem, I'd rather my ARPG be an ARPG and not another market/economy to exploit. Why can't games simply be games?

It really comes down to the question of, would you rather find your own loot, or would you rather have to trade or pay real money for it? Solo-self found loot also kills 3rd party currency/item vendors who charge real money - case and point being PoE and D2. I'd rather whales not be able to open their wallets and have all the best stuff, I'd rather those faggots have to earn it in game.

For the record, I have no intentions of playing D4.

I agree, and it is especially irritating when trading UI is as terrible as it is in PoE.

 

[Atlantico]

Can't believe this was announced in 2019. Time flies. Odds are this will blow, because Blizzard hasn't made a good game since Hearthstone was released almost a decade ago and before that it was WoW a decade before.