Diablo IV

[Kjaska]

self owning yourself.

I rest my case.

 

[Zeriel]

Me too, Atlantico. I enjoyed Diablo 1/2, I would't classify them as RPG's, only action dungeon crawlers with light rpg elements, but D3 is just rainbow slot machine simulator.

Depends on whether you consider Rogue an RPG, I suppose. Diablo 1 is a (stripped down) but fairly honest graphical Rogue clone. It just kept evolving in more "cinematic", mass-market direction from game to game.

 

[Zeriel]

Diablo-likes are hopeless. Someone make Nox-likes.

Revanant-likes would be better. I fucking loved that game. Such a cool melee combat system, magic system etc.

I liked the combo-based action combat some of those early late 90s early 2000s Diablo clones were going for. Soulbringer was another one that had a really interesting combat system based on weapons each having a unique series of attacks and interweaving different strikes.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Diablo-likes are hopeless. Someone make Nox-likes.

Revanant-likes would be better. I fucking loved that game. Such a cool melee combat system, magic system etc.

I liked the combo-based action combat some of those early late 90s early 2000s Diablo clones were going for. Soulbringer was another one that had a really interesting combat system based on weapons each having a unique series of attacks and interweaving different strikes.

Or Silver.

 

[d1r]

Diablo-likes are hopeless. Someone make Nox-likes.

Revanant-likes would be better. I fucking loved that game. Such a cool melee combat system, magic system etc.

Man, this looks like a weird Sacred, Ultima 8 hybrid. The meaty sound effects are incredible though.

 

[Grunker]

Diablo-likes are hopeless. Someone make Nox-likes.

Revanant-likes would be better. I fucking loved that game. Such a cool melee combat system, magic system etc.

Sacred, Ultima 8

No need for tangential games - the open world is almost exactly Lost Ark. Play a little of that or watch some videos and you'll know how the open world works. Note that I'm talking specifically the open world.

 

[Justinian]

IIRC Revenant was basically released unfinished. That's why the ending sucked.

 

[Daedalos]

No lifed the beta this weekend.

Honestly its fucking good. graphics top notch, combat top notch, the UI is kind of iffy and shitty.. and it FEELS kind of mobile/console, but its tolerable when everythin else is nice.

itemization? eh i dunno.. will reserve for launch to judge but so far its fine imo.

level scaling to zones is the biggest thing ppl are angry about... its kind of... getting used to, but its fine imo. means that every zone is still relevant..

8/10 so far. Played the game until lvl 25 HARDCORE on sorc, died 5 times on barb... barb is weak.

 

[Reinhardt]

literally "it's shit, 8/10"

 

[Arbiter]

literally "it's shit, 8/10"

 

[Arbiter]

Blizzard never understood Diablo and why should they have? It was never their game.

I disagree, Diablo heavily inspired OldBlizzard Irvine games like WC3 and WoW.

BTW, welcome back Atlantico.

 

[Arbiter]

graphics top notch

That would be a nice change, the last Diablo game with good graphics (for its era) was D1.

 

[Storyfag]

literally "it's shit, 8/10"

 

[Camel]

That would be a nice change, the last Diablo game with good graphics (for its era) was D1.

A reminder that the D2 original resolution was 640x480.

 

[Arbiter]

That would be a nice change, the last Diablo game with good graphics (for its era) was D1.

Reminder that the D2 original resolution was 640x480.

Same video mode as WC2 released 5 years earlier. An elaborate plan to release a remaster 20 years later?

 

[Multidirectional]

graphics top notch

That would be a nice change, the last Diablo game with good graphics (for its era) was D1.

I watched a dude stream it for a bit just now, visually it does look really nice. Certainly much improved over D3 in that regard.

 

[Atlantico]

Diablo-likes are hopeless. Someone make Nox-likes.

Revanant-likes would be better. I fucking loved that game. Such a cool melee combat system, magic system etc.

Sacred, Ultima 8

No need for tangential games - the open world is almost exactly Lost Ark. Play a little of that or watch some videos and you'll know how the open world works. Note that I'm talking specifically the open world.

Man, back in the day I've soaked so many hours into Revenant. It was very grindy and the ending wasn't that great as far as I recall. Was it some kind of love story?

 

[d1r]

Can't believe that I somehow missed that episode.

 

[kites]

Diablo-likes are hopeless. Someone make Nox-likes.

Revanant-likes would be better. I fucking loved that game. Such a cool melee combat system, magic system etc.

I had forgotten about this game! Thanks for the refresher..

RIP Sinatar

 

[abija]

I watched a dude stream it for a bit just now, visually it does look really nice. Certainly much improved over D3 in that regard.

It's desaturated and darkened D3. Also Perkel is wrong in pretty much anything he says.
Worst part... in an early game beta you end up rolling over content without thinking, I seriously doubt this game won't turn into max zoom zoom very fast.

 

[Serious_Business]

I won't be ironic about this one, it does look like utter shit. This whole genre is shit more or less ; this is my enlightened conclusion after having played a bunch of rogue-likes. If you think about it two seconds, Diablo games are a degraded action-based form of rogue-likes. There is only so much you can do with the formula. The fact that it centered around "grind" and item-hunting for more than two decades is not only disgusting, but probably pathological in some way. Just play DCSS or TOME, in a very sane and reasonable way, restarting characters over and over for hundreds of hours, becoming progressively blind and fat in the process, increasing your inner potential as a human being.

 

[Zeriel]

I watched a dude stream it for a bit just now, visually it does look really nice. Certainly much improved over D3 in that regard.

It's desaturated and darkened D3. Also Perkel is wrong in pretty much anything he says.
Worst part... in an early game beta you end up rolling over content without thinking, I seriously doubt this game won't turn into max zoom zoom very fast.

Yep, early levels are when all ARPGs are at their "hardest", generally speaking, outside of prestige challenge encounters, so it really says nothing much if a low level demo takes 2-3x hits to kill a monster instead of 1x in a finished game at higher levels. If anything, if the experience is not very challenging initially in a demo you can expect it to be completely braindead at mid levels in the finished product.

 

[Storyfag]

it really says nothing much if a low level demo takes 2-3x hits to kill a monster instead of 1x in a finished game at higher levels

I would say it sounds much like D1 and D2. But that single factor does not a full experience make.

 

[Takamori]

No lifed the beta this weekend.

Honestly its fucking good. graphics top notch, combat top notch, the UI is kind of iffy and shitty.. and it FEELS kind of mobile/console, but its tolerable when everythin else is nice.

Come on UI is straight dogshit not even in a console PoV it makes sense, your substats is hidden through 2 menus. Irrelevant shit being easy to access and not what matters like total HP,Mana and so on, visual clarity throw in the garbage for the sake of "looking cool" instead of helping your collect information fast like the fucking friend list.
Font is trash Blizzard with their resources could hire someone to do stylized fonts for this game but they choose this shit that looks like an alpha placeholder.

Itemization like I said previously much better compared to D3 given that I during beta I actually was paying attention to what stats I wanted in my gear as barb, but the legendary system I have some reservations should be a separate system from gear and attached directly to skills and actually do legendaries that have interesting behavior in gameplay.

In theory they can overhaul the UI before the release but itemization is set to stone will require them to patch along seasons, now what bothers me how to they plan to do seasons with this Lost Ark Lite garbage attached to the game, do I have to go collect Lilith statues every fucking season?

 

[Zeriel]

it really says nothing much if a low level demo takes 2-3x hits to kill a monster instead of 1x in a finished game at higher levels

I would say it sounds much like D1 and D2. But that single factor does not a full experience make.

PoE takes multiple hits at low levels to kill stuff too. "Clear speed meta" is, like all metas, a meta for endgame. Basically, as someone else alluded to, Perkel is full of shit.