Diablo IV

[toro]

Just finished the campaign on Tier 2.

It's the first Diablo game for me. I was curious to play one of these cause I've kickstared Grim Dawn long time ago.

Needless to say, I think it's shit and satanic.

 

[luj1]

I do not understand what is so much different between D2C and LoD

its way slower, its harder, and has way less stat inflation / stat bloat

 

[ArchAngel]

I do not understand what is so much different between D2C and LoD

its way slower, its harder, and has way less stat inflation / stat bloat

Classic didn't have elemental immunities so it was not harder.

 

[ArchAngel]

Just finished the campaign on Tier 2.

It's the first Diablo game for me. I was curious to play one of these cause I've kickstared Grim Dawn long time ago.

Needless to say, I think it's shit and satanic.

Why did you waste 100$ on shit?

 

[toro]

Just finished the campaign on Tier 2.

It's the first Diablo game for me. I was curious to play one of these cause I've kickstared Grim Dawn long time ago.

Needless to say, I think it's shit and satanic.

Why did you waste 100$ on shit?

coop with nephews. curiosity. no work Monday

 

[luj1]

Classic didn't have elemental immunities so it was not harder.

brilliant conclussion

Why are elemental immunities the ONLY parameter of difficulty? dont be dumb sykar

it was much harder to find good gear, builds were less cookie cutter, mercenaries werent persistent, it was very hard to stack resists

Chaos Sanctuary was literally HELL in classic

It was VERY hard to do without other people, it took FOREVER, and you basically must move constantly (you cannot spam skills or you die)

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

It had it during closed beta and some time after it.

CI Flicker Strike Shadows tactically spazzing out in Vaal Ruins, back when that was the highest level area - that was closed beta, right?

 

[ArchAngel]

 

[DeepOcean]

Its been a LONG ago since I played Diablo II, I cant claim I have perfect memory of it but I remember playing on Hell on LoD 1.10 and while the immunities were an extra mechanic that I liked, I never felt they added this super tough layer of difficulty unless you really overfocused on a single damage type. I actually got disappointed because everyone at the time were hyping it up as a balls crushing difficulty and ended being okay. Yes, you cant play like a moron and just charge on the middle of static charge elite mobs but it wasnt soul crushing like I hoped it would be.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

it changed. there was a time when last difficulty was interesting and challenging, then it got changed into "you either have one of the top sets ALREADY and are level 90+ ALREADY or you get minced by the first random minor boss you meet".

 

[Artyoan]

Not sure how he can play D2 for twenty years straight and then skip the story for D4. Not disagreeing with his review since I wouldn't know, but still. My mind is the exact opposite of speed runners.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Gee, Blizzard fucked up the servers at launch yet again. Shocking. These cheap fucks are always too cheap to buy enough servers, so peole gotta wait for hours in queues at launch. Disgusting.

Also, the basic skills for Barbarian suck ass. If you want to use a 2-handed sword, Lunge is the best skill (Flay a DoT being the only other one). So who the fuck came up with a lunge as a base skill? The lunging animation for a 2h sword over and over is retarded as fuck. It's a 2-handed sword, not a fucking epee. Imagine Conan yelling "En Guarde!"

 

[mediocrepoet]

Gee, Blizzard fucked up the servers at launch yet again. Shocking. These cheap fucks are always too cheap to buy enough servers, so peole gotta wait for hours in queues at launch. Disgusting.

Also, the basic skills for Barbarian suck ass. If you want to use a 2-handed sword, Lunge is the best skill (Flay a DoT being the only other one). So who the fuck came up with a lunge as a base skill? The lunging animation for a 2h sword over and over is retarded as fuck. It's a 2-handed sword, not a fucking epee. Imagine Conan yelling "En Guarde!"

That's what I thought during the beta as well. It looks fucking retarded, you pretty much have to use polearms only for it to be okay. Imo just use anything else for your basic and then wait to get stuff like leap for mobility. At least, that's what I figured before release anyway.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

I don't know shit about the game yet, but I don't think you have options for a basic skill (if you are using a 2h sword). There are 4 basic skills which you need to use to build up fury to use other skills. One of them is for dual wielding weapons, one for bludgeoning weapons. So that leaves 2 you can use for 2h sword, Lunge, or Flay. But flay is a DoT, so you can't really spam it to build up Fury.

Also, Lunge animation for a 2handed hammer is just a regular overhead attack (with a closer). So it's only 2h swords that are fucked.

 

[KIss My Ass]

HA, made sure I got logged in before all the noobs came flooding in. No wait for me!

 

[Seethe]

- Harbinger (sci fi Diablo clone)

God, you wouldn't believe how hard I tried to remember what that game was called. I've played it a long, long time ago.

 

[Ivan]

Idk if it's just me but I soured on the genre as a whole after Grim Dawn. It dawned on me that the gameplay loop was just 'button-awesome with cooldowns' carried by paper doll dress up.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Diablo feels more akin to a bullet hell shooter at this point. That's fine. Bullet hell games are fun.

 

[Kjaska]

Alk quickly shows how to have 100% uptime on shouts and suggests ways of getting the necessary gear to enable it.

 

[ArchAngel]

Its been a LONG ago since I played Diablo II, I cant claim I have perfect memory of it but I remember playing on Hell on LoD 1.10 and while the immunities were an extra mechanic that I liked, I never felt they added this super tough layer of difficulty unless you really overfocused on a single damage type. I actually got disappointed because everyone at the time were hyping it up as a balls crushing difficulty and ended being okay. Yes, you cant play like a moron and just charge on the middle of static charge elite mobs but it wasnt soul crushing like I hoped it would be.

I depends on your build. Characters focusing into physical damage or magic damage are least effected.
Fire, cold, lightning and poison are those screwed.

 

[Kjaska]

It's not bloated dogshit like PoE where you're forced into trading if you want viable builds

This is fake news. By definition, all viable league start builds are those which don't rely on rare uniques or difficult to craft rares and there is a substantial portion of the playerbase who enjoy playing without trading at all.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Alk quickly shows how to have 100% uptime on shouts and suggests ways of getting the necessary gear to enable it.

I just can't get over the fact every toon in this game is a fatso. That model is fucking atrocious, all though it's not as bad as the Druid i guess.

 

[KIss My Ass]

I got kicked out and am now stuck in a waiting queue. For 7 minutes. I paid $90 for that. This will not be getting my goty vote. That vote would have always gone to Zelda anyway if it was eligible.

 

[Perkel]

I don't know shit about the game yet, but I don't think you have options for a basic skill (if you are using a 2h sword). There are 4 basic skills which you need to use to build up fury to use other skills. One of them is for dual wielding weapons, one for bludgeoning weapons. So that leaves 2 you can use for 2h sword, Lunge, or Flay. But flay is a DoT, so you can't really spam it to build up Fury.

Also, Lunge animation for a 2handed hammer is just a regular overhead attack (with a closer). So it's only 2h swords that are fucked.

Bleed in D4 stacks up. It is not like in POE where bleed is just last biggest bleed dot.

Classic didn't have elemental immunities so it was not harder.

Just the fact that runewords didn't exist in classic D2 made game much harder. Mercs were not being able to use gear and were not permanent, synergies didn't exist so you had to split point between different skills instead of chaining them into one synergy. Yeah release D2 was harder and much more fun than LOD version.

You can even try it yourself. D2R has classic mode but it requires one mod to remove synergies as well because that was feature of one of patches after release but before LOD so it is still contained in "classic"

 

[KIss My Ass]

Now I just get timed out every login attempt. How is this not a lawsuit? You should be able to sue the fuck out of these cunts. I would like blood