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Gee, Blizzard fucked up the servers at launch yet again. Shocking. These cheap fucks are always too cheap to buy enough servers, so peole gotta wait for hours in queues at launch. Disgusting.

Also, the basic skills for Barbarian suck ass. If you want to use a 2-handed sword, Lunge is the best skill (Flay a DoT being the only other one). So who the fuck came up with a lunge as a base skill? The lunging animation for a 2h sword over and over is retarded as fuck. It's a 2-handed sword, not a fucking epee. Imagine Conan yelling "En Guarde!"
 

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Gee, Blizzard fucked up the servers at launch yet again. Shocking. These cheap fucks are always too cheap to buy enough servers, so peole gotta wait for hours in queues at launch. Disgusting.

Also, the basic skills for Barbarian suck ass. If you want to use a 2-handed sword, Lunge is the best skill (Flay a DoT being the only other one). So who the fuck came up with a lunge as a base skill? The lunging animation for a 2h sword over and over is retarded as fuck. It's a 2-handed sword, not a fucking epee. Imagine Conan yelling "En Guarde!"
That's what I thought during the beta as well. It looks fucking retarded, you pretty much have to use polearms only for it to be okay. Imo just use anything else for your basic and then wait to get stuff like leap for mobility. At least, that's what I figured before release anyway.
 
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I don't know shit about the game yet, but I don't think you have options for a basic skill (if you are using a 2h sword). There are 4 basic skills which you need to use to build up fury to use other skills. One of them is for dual wielding weapons, one for bludgeoning weapons. So that leaves 2 you can use for 2h sword, Lunge, or Flay. But flay is a DoT, so you can't really spam it to build up Fury.

Also, Lunge animation for a 2handed hammer is just a regular overhead attack (with a closer). So it's only 2h swords that are fucked.
 

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Idk if it's just me but I soured on the genre as a whole after Grim Dawn. It dawned on me that the gameplay loop was just 'button-awesome with cooldowns' carried by paper doll dress up.
 

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Alk quickly shows how to have 100% uptime on shouts and suggests ways of getting the necessary gear to enable it.
 

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Its been a LONG ago since I played Diablo II, I cant claim I have perfect memory of it but I remember playing on Hell on LoD 1.10 and while the immunities were an extra mechanic that I liked, I never felt they added this super tough layer of difficulty unless you really overfocused on a single damage type. I actually got disappointed because everyone at the time were hyping it up as a balls crushing difficulty and ended being okay. Yes, you cant play like a moron and just charge on the middle of static charge elite mobs but it wasnt soul crushing like I hoped it would be.
I depends on your build. Characters focusing into physical damage or magic damage are least effected.
Fire, cold, lightning and poison are those screwed.
 

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It's not bloated dogshit like PoE where you're forced into trading if you want viable builds
This is fake news. By definition, all viable league start builds are those which don't rely on rare uniques or difficult to craft rares and there is a substantial portion of the playerbase who enjoy playing without trading at all.
 

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Alk quickly shows how to have 100% uptime on shouts and suggests ways of getting the necessary gear to enable it.


I just can't get over the fact every toon in this game is a fatso. That model is fucking atrocious, all though it's not as bad as the Druid i guess.
 

Perkel

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I don't know shit about the game yet, but I don't think you have options for a basic skill (if you are using a 2h sword). There are 4 basic skills which you need to use to build up fury to use other skills. One of them is for dual wielding weapons, one for bludgeoning weapons. So that leaves 2 you can use for 2h sword, Lunge, or Flay. But flay is a DoT, so you can't really spam it to build up Fury.

Also, Lunge animation for a 2handed hammer is just a regular overhead attack (with a closer). So it's only 2h swords that are fucked.

Bleed in D4 stacks up. It is not like in POE where bleed is just last biggest bleed dot.

Classic didn't have elemental immunities so it was not harder.

Just the fact that runewords didn't exist in classic D2 made game much harder. Mercs were not being able to use gear and were not permanent, synergies didn't exist so you had to split point between different skills instead of chaining them into one synergy. Yeah release D2 was harder and much more fun than LOD version.

You can even try it yourself. D2R has classic mode but it requires one mod to remove synergies as well because that was feature of one of patches after release but before LOD so it is still contained in "classic"
 

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Alk quickly shows how to have 100% uptime on shouts and suggests ways of getting the necessary gear to enable it.

I see something like this myself. Leap and Kick are pretty much like 90% reusable after 1-2 seconds and I have already a way to make them 100% reusable without cooldown. This goes pretty much to every skill as there are many ways to remove or shorten cooldowns usually as some sort of combo mechanic.

In my case kick resets leap cooldown completely and you have 2 kicks with like 5-6 second cooldown. So you can have 3 leaps at start of fight with 2 kicks in between, and recently i found legendary with minus to seconds of cooldown on leap if you hit enemy so with few enemies at once you have effectively 0 cooldown. In my case leap is more important because with each leap i get 40 fury which is enough for about 2 hammer of ancients hits.

The only issue right now with my build is that once i clear pack and I am left with 1-2 elites i run out of kicks or leaps and have to bash my way around which works well but doesn't feel smooth. With new unique i mentioned i will be able to sustain leaps much better.

Overall I am not too hot on whole cooldowns as a feature of system, I would rather prefer resource cost (just high enough not to spam it) but with such mechanics as mentioned above it cooldown sort of becomes resource to manage not that different from fury or mana and there is pathway to completely remove them at some sort of cost.

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I also found unique chest (unique items in D4 have properties that can't be transferred over like legendary aspects) chest that removes around 1 second per enemy hit on ultimate skills. Ultimate skills usually have around 60 second cooldown which further can be modified to lessen it but with this unique pretty much i can sustain ultimates on big battles.
 

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Blizzard launches and communism.
Every time same story - naive optimists think this time will be different.
"This time it will work."
Stop giving them the money for anti-consumer tactics, you are basically paying them to have worse experience than people with pirated versions.
 

spectre

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Now I just get timed out every login attempt. How is this not a lawsuit? You should be able to sue the fuck out of these cunts. I would like blood
Welcome to the Diablo(tm) Experience(R), please have a good day.

So, blizzard still hasn't learned to build moar pylons for its hyped up game launches.
Looks to be same shit as when Diablo 3 dropped.
 

ArchAngel

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Now I just get timed out every login attempt. How is this not a lawsuit? You should be able to sue the fuck out of these cunts. I would like blood
Sue the retard that keeps selling you alcohol.
 

Perkel

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I was able to gain a few more levels and do a main quest before everything went to shit. Could have been worse I guess.

Yeah, decided to stop playing for today and just play some D2R classic instead. After I will reach D4 high end game i plan to restart with new class but hardcore.
 

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