Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition

[Volourn]

"Basicly, if I fail the conversation minigame, I have to face 4 huge stone guardians, who do thousands of damage each, so I have no chance against them."

Fukkin' wuss.

 

[Jezal_k23]

Finished it! Yeah the final battle was not hard, just really long and tiring. I'm extremely happy with it overall. Steam says it took me 116 hours, although I kept it running while I left the computer on a few occasions. Still, certainly took me over 100 hours to finish it. It undeniably has a shitload of content, which is something I greatly respect in games.

 

[J_C]

"Basicly, if I fail the conversation minigame, I have to face 4 huge stone guardians, who do thousands of damage each, so I have no chance against them."

Fukkin' wuss.

What? If there is an option to talk yourself out from a battle, I want to be able to use it, that's why I spend points on the talking skills. I could have taken down the guardians after a few tries, but I chose another way.

 

[Gregz]

My party just got stuck by a game breaking bug:

http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519085

Disappointing, I cannot access the main content at the end, but it was a fun game up to this point.

Spoiler

Inner Source Temple door and beyond refuses to open claiming "I have not yet ascended" even though I have 14 spent blood stones. One of the portals got stuck and ZixZax is bugged and will not open it regardless of how many stones I spend. Worse, the bug was set very early in the game when I quickly used two in a row (I assume), so going back to that previous save would essentially be re-rolling...all this after a good 100+ hours (I savored the game and took it very slow), a shame.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Queshtion about the tomb with the stone guardians btw

Is it possible to actually get into the side chambers and/or loot the chests littering the place? Or is that just jewbait.

 

[Raghar]

My party just got stuck by a game breaking bug

Try to kill ZixZax.

 

[imweasel]

Queshtion about the tomb with the stone guardians btw

Is it possible to actually get into the side chambers and/or loot the chests littering the place? Or is that just jewbait.

You can get into the side chambers. Ignore the chests, there is only shit inside.

Spoiler

You need a character with high perception to uncover a path to the main chamber, if your perception is low than you can play the hot/cold game. You will need to use the pyramids to get into the other chamber.

 

[Mario]

Ok! So I bought the game and I really like what I see. The game is definitely a big step forward for the RPG genre, after the whole gaming industry went back a couple of hundred steps in the last 10 years. However, one thing really gets on my nerves and that is the rock, paper and scissors minigame when resolving a dialogue dispute. Anyone else shares this sentiment?

The way I see it, I have no idea who in their right mind thought that resolving dialogue decisions should be done through the rock, paper and scissors mini-game! Even in multiplayer this is a horrible idea, since you win or lose arguments based on pure luck. The argument could be made that if you invest into charisma, your chances of winning will be higher, but at least from my experience, more often than not I found myself losing an argument despite investing 2 points into charisma. I literally have the worst of luck, or there is something rigged here. The worst thing is that you can simply reload the game and try again if you fail, which is nothing short of cheating, but with such a broken design idea there is nothing else you can do. Do not get me wrong, I have no problem with reloading the game, but if you can just avoid the consequences of your choices just by reloading enough times until you get lucky, then I do not understand what's the point in investing into charisma. This is even further demonstrated by the fact that when I skipped the whole minigame, I finally started to win the arguments, but there doesn't seem to be any rule. Simply put, you win some and you lose some regardless of how much points you put in charisma. I must say that I prefer the more traditional approach where you win an argument based on skill checks. Due to this awful design idea, the dialogues are completely broken and difficult to enjoy, especially when the other character you play makes you do something that you would never agree to. Now, there is a way to disable this in options, but then you miss out on the disagreements with your other character, which can sometimes actually be very fun and which adds life to the other character. Baldur's Gate solved disagreements by having your followers protesting, and even leaving if you continued with something that went against their own judgment. In Divinity, you basically throw a dice and do what the dice tells you. Of course if you don't care about dialogues this will probably not bother you, but for me this is a big issue.

I am wondering if there is a mod to fix this? Or if there is at least some skill involved in recognizing patterns as to what to choose in the RPS minigame? Or if someone can please explain how does this damn minigame work, specifically how many charisma points do I have to have before I actually get an advantage?

 

[cvv]

Queshtion about the tomb with the stone guardians btw

Is it possible to actually get into the side chambers and/or loot the chests littering the place? Or is that just jewbait.

You can get into the side chambers. Ignore the chests, there is only shit inside.

Spoiler

You need a character with high perception to uncover a path to the main chamber, if your perception is low than you can play the hot/cold game. You will need to use the pyramids to get into the other chamber.

Spoiler

Throwing the pyramid didn't work for me. I'm guessing you need a very high teleportation skill, I had 4 and my toon still got zapped.

 

[Athelas]

So you're not just content taking over sea's avatar, but also his in-depth RPG analysis?


I think they said they'd 'fix' the RPS game with an upcoming patch? Hopefully make it replaceable with a simple charisma check.

 

[imweasel]

The game needs skill checks and elaborate dialogue options with meaningful consequences to one's choices and not some simple, binary RPS minigame bullshit.
D:OS is of course a great game, but this is one if it's weaknesses. Understandable, because of the limited budget™.

BTW you're not Sea. N-O-T S-E-A.

 

[imweasel]

Queshtion about the tomb with the stone guardians btw

Is it possible to actually get into the side chambers and/or loot the chests littering the place? Or is that just jewbait.

You can get into the side chambers. Ignore the chests, there is only shit inside.

Spoiler

You need a character with high perception to uncover a path to the main chamber, if your perception is low than you can play the hot/cold game. You will need to use the pyramids to get into the other chamber.

Spoiler

Throwing the pyramid didn't work for me. I'm guessing you need a very high teleportation skill, I had 4 and my toon still got zapped.

Spoiler

You have to be very exact. You need to stand on the right spot and throw the pyramid so it lands on the correct position. It took me about ten minutes until I got it to work. I know, it sucks.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Should have been GROM's diplomacy minigame instead.

But on a serious note, I didn't mind it in multi because it adds some hella tense mindgames between players if they disagree, but I imagine it could piss me off in singleplayer if I had a rebel-AI companion (because let's face it, sometimes the disagreements are seriously stupid, particularly the ones that concern whether a quest should even be accepted in the first place)

 

[Darth Roxor]

Ignore the chests, there is only shit inside.

That's what you say.

Meanwhile, I blasted one from afar and it turned out to have a unique sword inside :/

fkn RNG

 

[Ziem]

Charisma and choosing the correct dialogue option (intimidate/charm/reason) give you bonuses during the minigame. Skipping the minigame via spacebar is bugged, there's always 50% chance to win or lose and your stats or dialogue choices don't make any difference, but it's going to be fixed in the next patch.

I agree that it's awful and skillchecks would be 10x better, but oh well. Mods will fix it.

 

[undecaf]

I didn't mind it in single player all that much; as in, I got used to it after the initial WTF. It sure is something of goofball choice to abstract a back and forth between two characters into few rounds of RPS (or that's how I like to interpret it, rather than the characters actually going for "1, 2, 3, scissors... Fuck... 1, 2..."), but it does kind of fit the lighthearted tone of the game.

 

[t]

Seriously, man, change that avatar. sea is our true resident hairy icewind warrior.

 

[Mario]

BTW you're not Sea. N-O-T S-E-A.

I had this avatar long, long, looonng before Sea even existed So Sea is not Mareus. N-O-T-M-A-R-E-U-S. Just forgot my goddamn password and haven't been active since 2008. Underlord fixed the old account for me, so I guess I should start using it again, but the avatar stays.

 

[Mareus]

If its such a problem to differentiate us you can add "Pretty princess" tag under Sea's name. That should fix the problem.

 

[J_C]

BTW you're not Sea. N-O-T S-E-A.

I had this avatar long, long, looonng before Sea even existed So Sea is not Mareus. N-O-T-M-A-R-E-U-S. Just forgot my goddamn password and haven't been active since 2008. Underlord fixed the old account for me, so I guess I should start using it again, but the avatar stays.

Joined: Thursday

Hah, like we would belive you. Prove it! Your avatar scheme already confused me because I thought sea wrote the opening post. What he would never do, because we already discussed this issue in the main thread of D:OS.

If its such a problem to differentiate us you can add "Pretty princess" tag under Sea's name. That should fix the problem.

 

[AMG]

The worst part about the RPS minigame is that when I try to lose on purpose for better XP and loot by clicking the same thing over and over, 9/10 times I win anyway. Every time I skip the minigame I auto win it also.

 

[Gord]

So you're not just content taking over sea's avatar, but also his in-depth RPG analysis?


I think they said they'd 'fix' the RPS game with an upcoming patch? Hopefully make it replaceable with a simple charisma check.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't hitting space just bypassing the RPS-game and doing a skillcheck?
However, I don't know how big the chances for success are - if it's similar to the numbers you get for the RPS, it might not be exactly large even with relatively high charisma values.

 

[Watser]

So you're not just content taking over sea's avatar, but also his in-depth RPG analysis?


I think they said they'd 'fix' the RPS game with an upcoming patch? Hopefully make it replaceable with a simple charisma check.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't hitting space just bypassing the RPS-game and doing a skillcheck?
However, I don't know how big the chances for success are - if it's similar to the numbers you get for the RPS, it might not be exactly large even with relatively high charisma values.

Forktong confirmed in the DivOS thread that it was a 50-50 chance. Stated it was a bug and he'd look into it cause it was supposed to be a skillcheck

 

[Darth Roxor]

Mareus

Cheeses Christ, that was my first thought upon seeing this thread + username + avatar, but I hoped that was just a silly false-positive feeling

 

[ghostdog]

heh Mareus is an oldfag, so stfu newfags.