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Do any of you video game snobs cave to the temptations of cheat engine, console commands, etc.?

toiletwino

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My own skill level is now well below average, and I haven't had issues with giving myself boosts to get through a campaign these last ten years. For example, I got wasted a bunch of times early in Elex, so I fired up cheat engine to give myself unimited jetpack fuel to fight my battles like a chickenshit from the sky.

What I was angling for were a half dozen anecdotes from the kindly group of faggots here that entertain me on a daily basis: something involving console commands, cheat engine, mods, etc. What were some acceptable cases of compromise?
 

Butter

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I had to cheat to beat the last fight in Shattered Lands. That game is like a 2/10 for difficulty right up until it becomes 11/10.
 

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I used cheatengine to finish the credits shooting part at the end of Nier Automata because it was designed to be impossible without an internet connection. I've also used it to directly set my stats in games where you roll for stats, but I give myself what I judge to be a fair array, not max rolls across the board. That's the closest I've come to actually 'cheating' in a serious game as far as I can recall; otherwise it's just speedhack in general and noclip when I've somehow gotten stuck somewhere and don't want to load a previous save.
 

anvi

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I use cheat engine for every game that has walking with nothing going on, or waiting. Some turn based games are so much better with speedhack! I rarely use it to cheat unless I'm bored with the game and I want to see something before I quit. Like in no-real-content-or-gameplay survival games like The Forest etc, to give myself 10000 tree trunks so I didn't have to hack virtual trees all day.... Got to build all the stuff and discover how empty it is.
 
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I use cheats for debug and build testing. When I've mastered a game, I'll sometimes give a new character a unique edge/ability that I find amusing (without being OP).
 

KainenMorden

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I had to cheat to beat the last fight in Shattered Lands. That game is like a 2/10 for difficulty right up until it becomes 11/10.
Use that narrow area at the top of the map and entangle or something to slow them down. I solod it with half goanty fighter/earth cleric but I did have maxed stats, was still difficult
 

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I'll lower difficulty to fast forward through content I've already been through sometimes on subsequent playthroughs where I'm not testing a new build or something but no I'm always trying to recapture that OG coin-op buzz and cheat engines would kill that. There was a way to use a paper clip to get some free credits but obv hacking a cabinet wasn't something kids could do.

Plus too lazy to figure out how they work.
 

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Some offline pc games have worse grinding than certain MMOs, I see nothing wrong in speeding up such games with a third-party program.

Back when UnderRail and Sunless Sea came out I used Cheat Engine for the speed.
Totally justifiable.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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I had to cheat to beat the last fight in Shattered Lands. That game is like a 2/10 for difficulty right up until it becomes 11/10.
Although the last battle in Dark Sun: Shattered Lands is vastly more difficult than any previous ones, it's largely a matter of implementing appropriate tactics to first eliminate the enemy spellcasters and psionicists, and then to fall back into an area where the arrival of the remaining enemies can be somewhat controlled, while your party makes use of various spells and magic items that might not have been necessary earlier in the game.
 

Butter

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I had to cheat to beat the last fight in Shattered Lands. That game is like a 2/10 for difficulty right up until it becomes 11/10.
Although the last battle in Dark Sun: Shattered Lands is vastly more difficult than any previous ones, it's largely a matter of implementing appropriate tactics to first eliminate the enemy spellcasters and psionicists, and then to fall back into an area where the arrival of the remaining enemies can be somewhat controlled, while your party makes use of various spells and magic items that might not have been necessary earlier in the game.
I think it's bad design to not have a proper escalation of difficulty. It's one thing for something like Augury of Chaos to rape the player over and over again, but it's another to throw that in at the end of an otherwise easy game. Nothing prepares the player for how ball-crushing the final fight is going to be. I spent several hours on it, turned the difficulty down to easy, spent several more hours on it, and still couldn't win without cheats. It feels like they simply ran out of time and didn't do a proper difficulty pass.
 

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Nah, easy mode is always there. And if its not, then you likely know what you are getting into anyways. I like having moderate to hard challenge in most game. As long as it doesnt feel unfair. As for the speedhacking equation, not a chance. I play games to immerse and be part of the world. I have yet to find a game where the walking was to slow. I don't play games to beat games, I play to experience the game as intended. So cheat engine is a no go.
 

Norfleet

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I use cheats for debug and build testing. When I've mastered a game, I'll sometimes give a new character a unique edge/ability that I find amusing (without being OP).
I've used Cheat Engine in Notepad before. Is Notepad even a game? Can you cheat in Notepad? I've also cheated in Furryfox. It turns out you can accelerate those damn wait-to-download timers that way sometimes. For me it's more of a generic memory-editor and debug tool than something I actually use in games.
 

perfectslumbers

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I used cheats to speed up the world map movement in Kingmaker. Now if only I could use a cheat to make the loading screens faster, the game would be a 10/10
 

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I only used Cheat Engine in Dark Souls 2 (SOFTS) to give myself Cracked Red Eye orbs and other roleplay specific items for low level invasions and in Elden Ring to give myself unfarmable items for crafting for low lvl pvp builds.
 

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Only in extreme circumstances when otherwise I'd be stuck forever at a given part. To make things easier in general, or "speed up" things — hell no, never.
 

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Console command is most of the time~ Sometimes a line there can equal to a mod. So we would not need to have that mod active. And with games such as Fallout New Vegas (gambrio engine) console command is recommended.

Cheat engine is ... depend~ It's too easy to break the games with the options already in cheat engine tables. I have no object to cheat engine in general principles, but in actual circumstances I would intentionally avoid CC if I can replicate its results with console commands. Think of Cheat engine (with a game's specific tables) like an all-encompassed mod, or a total conversion project, in FNV. We all know such thing need careful caliberation before it's workable, but Cheat Engine Tables has nothing like that process. Thus very easy to break a game.
 

NecroLord

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I only use console commands for experimentation, or to test certain things.
Obviously, I also use it if the game has bugged out...
 

octavius

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Using the console is for casuals.

A True RPG Game Expert first researches the location of the best grinding spot, then grinds for days to max out all numbers. Or he puts a weight on the jump button and lets his characters jump up and down overnight when he sleeps, to max out the jump skill. Then they feel very :smug: for being so cunning without cheating, and posts the results on YouTube.
 

JarlFrank

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Literally nothing wrong with using cheat engine for speedhack in offline games. Way too many games are just fucking slow or purposely waste time to pad the game.
I use it in many, many games and it smoothens the experience a lot, especially when slow movement speed and backtracking are involved (hi there Underrail)
 

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