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As in hepatitis B? That’s pretty fitting given the companions we’ve seen.
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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]
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Hep as in the correct spelling of 'hip'.
On one hand I have a morbid curiosity about this degeneration and I'm an RPG junkie who will slurp anything to have some dialogs and stats. Writing a quickie for fellow 'dexers would be a pleasure.
On the other hand though, I'm not sure I want to stare into this abyss.
By default don't trust a gaming opinion of someone who's not on 'dex
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Elttharion
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I agree with most of your points but regarding the action games that came this year, most of them are from Japan and A LOT of people outrightly refuse to play Jap games. This will still find an audience imho.
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Idk, this shit could still sell reasonable well, covering the costs at least. AC Shadows and other big games were delayed recently so we don't have many mainstream releases until the end of the year anymore. Plus surely there will be a big push of "oh you liked BG3? Try this game then" from gaming websites and youtubers.
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EA can't bank on BG3 crowd with this turd
All of its promotional materials just alienate both waifufags(with ugly women) and female SIMS players(with manlets). You can't sell a game with ugly women and manlets dipped in offensive purple color palette. You just can't.
All of its promotional materials just alienate both waifufags(with ugly women) and female SIMS players(with manlets). You can't sell a game with ugly women and manlets dipped in offensive purple color palette. You just can't.
They made the game for those who do not identify as men or women.
GrainWetski
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Why would they distance themselves when the only thing they don't have yet is the beastiality? It is more "BG3 type shit" (degeneracy).
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The fact that Star Wars Outlaws isn’t selling and Concord’s spectacular crash proves you wrong. With inflation, money is tighter, and people think twice before spending 80 euros on a game. I’ve also noticed that kids still have the same tastes we did — knights in shining armor and combat robots. That’s definitely not Veilguard.
La vie sexuelle
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For Andy's Pants, it has always been a form of psyop used by corporations or consulting firms to gauge sentiment. His content is very direct, he says things that were unthinkable during Rise of Woke, and even now you can be punished for them, and YouTube does nothing about it. In my opinion, kirpos check what trends really are, apart from the reality they create in their marketing.
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Veilguard doesn't need to flop, it just needs to underperform to put Bioware in a difficult position. Never forget that EA only allowed the game to be single player because Fallen Order sold 10 million copies, that's the amount of copies sold EA expects to Veilguard to do. The entire AAA gaming market is in big trouble, and Veilguard is not immune from the external forces.
sosmoflux
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I've actually come around. It's going to flop. Gamers aren't touching it at all. Normies never played Dragon Age. Game looks unappealing, generic, bog standard. And nobody wants to spend that kinda money. Bioware's last games have sucked and they have no name recognition.
It's crazy how much work the hair physics is doing. Might be the only thing that sells units.
It's crazy how much work the hair physics is doing. Might be the only thing that sells units.
Assisted Living Godzilla
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While they mean the same thing, they are two different works that are pronounced differently.
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Almost nobody outright refuse to play Japanese games.
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This is true, but the other part of the issue is that Christian movies ARE morally correct, while this shit is irredimably evil.
Can't ignore that aspect.
DemonKing
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This. It's not going to be Concord bad but it's not going to go anywhere near 10 million units.
They're making a game with a very niche appeal seemingly to people that care more about having relationships with weird and annoying imaginary people than actual gameplay. Also the game doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to previous titles gameplay wise so probably won't please the fans of any of those.
Knowing Bioware though they'll somehow survive.
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Do you find them entertaining? Do you enjoy watching them? You find them quality products?
Bad is bad, regardless of the reason. If you want to create an NGO to receive donations for a cause, whatever it may be, then just do that. The intellectual dishonesty inherent in trying to advertise through a product invariably generates a mediocre result because you have already started from the wrong premise.
The core principle of a product is that it fulfills a consumer's need. It only makes sense to try to sell something that people want to buy – be it a story, a movie, a book, or anything else. The fundamental mistake here is not realizing that no one wants to pay for the "privilege" of being targeted by proselytism, religious or otherwise. You can obviously tell stories or make products that address any issues, as long as your product is a product first, and anything else second. And often the ideas and themes you want to address will by definition alienate part of your audience, so you need to double your efforts to ensure your product is good.
A prime example of this is the debate between Tolkien and Lewis on how to approach Christian themes, whether indirectly or directly, but something both make clear is that above all you need to first have a good work. If the book isn't good, any themes it intends to discuss become completely irrelevant because you weren't competent enough to attract an audience in the first place. Defending your agenda, whatever it may be, only makes sense if someone is going to be interested in what you have to say, regardless of how morally right you believe it to be and how important the themes you intend to discuss are.
The total failure and incompetence of modern activism, without even considering whether their causes are foolish or not, lies in the fact that they start from the a priori notion that the issues they advocate for are important, and therefore people should buy their products. This narrative stems from complete media illiteracy and an absolute lack of basic understanding of market dynamics and mass psychology. Yes, people can be foolish, but even that has its limits. When an industry loses sight of its own identity, collapse becomes inevitable.
It is evident from the frequent and sequential failures within the gaming industry that we have already surpassed the point of saturation. I can't say whether Veilguard will be a failure or not, although I would argue it's obvious that it deserves to be, and I very much want it to be. But even if it isn’t, I find it entirely implausible that it will become a fraction of what it could have been if Biorawe, like all these other major corporations, had not been destroyed from the inside out. Honestly, all the major Western companies have existed in name only for over a decade; you can barely see traces of what they once were.
The core principle of a product is that it fulfills a consumer's need. It only makes sense to try to sell something that people want to buy – be it a story, a movie, a book, or anything else. The fundamental mistake here is not realizing that no one wants to pay for the "privilege" of being targeted by proselytism, religious or otherwise. You can obviously tell stories or make products that address any issues, as long as your product is a product first, and anything else second. And often the ideas and themes you want to address will by definition alienate part of your audience, so you need to double your efforts to ensure your product is good.
A prime example of this is the debate between Tolkien and Lewis on how to approach Christian themes, whether indirectly or directly, but something both make clear is that above all you need to first have a good work. If the book isn't good, any themes it intends to discuss become completely irrelevant because you weren't competent enough to attract an audience in the first place. Defending your agenda, whatever it may be, only makes sense if someone is going to be interested in what you have to say, regardless of how morally right you believe it to be and how important the themes you intend to discuss are.
The total failure and incompetence of modern activism, without even considering whether their causes are foolish or not, lies in the fact that they start from the a priori notion that the issues they advocate for are important, and therefore people should buy their products. This narrative stems from complete media illiteracy and an absolute lack of basic understanding of market dynamics and mass psychology. Yes, people can be foolish, but even that has its limits. When an industry loses sight of its own identity, collapse becomes inevitable.
It is evident from the frequent and sequential failures within the gaming industry that we have already surpassed the point of saturation. I can't say whether Veilguard will be a failure or not, although I would argue it's obvious that it deserves to be, and I very much want it to be. But even if it isn’t, I find it entirely implausible that it will become a fraction of what it could have been if Biorawe, like all these other major corporations, had not been destroyed from the inside out. Honestly, all the major Western companies have existed in name only for over a decade; you can barely see traces of what they once were.
Origins had terrible hair meshes. DA2 improved upon them somewhat for both sexes, but the meshes were still more or less static. Inquisition was similar. Now, thanks to advances in game engines, they finally managed to add hair that both looks good and flows naturally.
Hair quality went up, gameplay and story went down. They prioritised.
Hair quality was held back by consoles much of the time, wasn't it? I think some Final Fantasy was among the first to use nvidia hairworks (2018) though it first appeared in the Witcher 3. Inquisition had no hair physics, I guess EA couldn't implement it in Frostbite on time?
Edit: from Wikipedia: "The first game to use TressFX Hair was the 2013 game Tomb Raider."
Look at us discussing hair in a thread about what is supposed to be an RPG.
I saw a comment in that IGN video "Wow, that's a pretty woman! ".
Edit: from Wikipedia: "The first game to use TressFX Hair was the 2013 game Tomb Raider."
Look at us discussing hair in a thread about what is supposed to be an RPG.
I saw a comment in that IGN video "Wow, that's a pretty woman! ".
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Hammer Of The Heretics
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Lewis definitely pulled this off. I was not raised religious, and I liked the Chronicles of Narnia even though I didn't realize it was a religious allegory until several years after reading it. It stood on its own as a story and world.
Interestingly, from the other side of the ideological spectrum, Ayn Rand has the same view of art. It has to work as a story first and foremost. If you rank the didactic elements over the integrity of the plot, characters and world building then you're crafting propaganda, not art.
mOrE hAiRsTyLeS people ruined RPGs
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