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From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

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I don't like larping restrictions. The game should enforce restrictions, not you gimping yourself on purpose. Time to install mods buddy, become the thing you hate the most, a retarded modder.
 

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I would not say "wrapped up" more like both retconned their respective games and offered a conclusion within that retcon. The Hunters DLC twisted all the events of the Yharnam around Kos who in the vanilla game was barely a name drop and for the most part was just cut content. It basically makes the moon presence look like a non-factor and side steps the Pthumerians and the Vile bloods completely. Its not so much a conclusion to the vanilla game but more like a conclusion to what the game could have been.

The ringed city similarly made a major retcon by making Gwyn directly aware and allied with the Furtive Pygmy and the Dark Soul. Thus making turning all of DS1 on its head because in that game the dilemma around the "dark soul" and the "age of humanity" was built entirely on the fact that nobody knew what it would look like or entail. He was holding back the age of dark because he could never know if it was just a different state of the world or straight up apocalypse... or so we though because after the ringed city Gwyn was essentially retconned into a power hungry clown who basically fucked up the world and himself because he did not feel like retiring.
None of this is a retcon.
 

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What are some weird and fun ways to play Elden ring?
If you play it using only your tongue to manipulate the controller, you can use that to make chicks horny b/c they'll think you're really good at oral sex. That's a win/win situation. GL buddy.
 

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Lmao, almost managed to burst Rellana, still had to deal with her balls in my face at the end because the last bleed didn't proc in time, but i was still able to brutalize her:



Paging my dear and good friend Hell Swarm for comment.

Wonder for how long i'm going to be able to get away with this without Scadutree Blessings. So far my damage is still good and even her damage wasn't unfair.
 

Hell Swarm

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What are some weird and fun ways to play Elden ring?
If you play it using only your tongue to manipulate the controller, you can use that to make chicks horny b/c they'll think you're really good at oral sex. That's a win/win situation. GL buddy.
Why would you want a chick to think you're going to go down on her? She should know you're only going to fuck her in the ass and call her Barry.
Paging my dear and good friend @Hell Swarm for comment.
You should kill yourself and until your amazon order of rope arrives you should stay in your containment thread. No one cares and your tiny dick being on display shows how pathetic you are.
 

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I don't like larping restrictions. The game should enforce restrictions, not you gimping yourself on purpose.

Larping is the best way, it's the "gimping" part that is not needed.

My preferred method is to combine LARPing with efficiency, find the "best" way to pursue a particular concept. Stick to the idea without intentionally making things worse for yourself.

You can control the difficutly of the game by limiting your level or weapon upgrade, there's no need to limit your options and reduce gameplay variety.

That said, if i were to take a character to NG+, i would just opt to not use any upgraded gear and threat the run as if it was a fresh character, while pursuing a completely different build. I was never able to just play the same thing twice or many times over. The only time i even took a character beyond NG+ was to get all the achievements in Dark Souls but that was a one time off.

My favored part in any RPG is the progression. If your build is complete and if you already have everything in the game i don't see the value of starting over with the same character. If there was a way to turn a normal game into NG+ (or something like that convenant in DS2 that made everything harder) i would gladly take that option over carrying a complete character into another playthrough.
 

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What are some weird and fun ways to play Elden ring? I'm considering a NG+ run using a dumb build.

I've always been partial to class runs, wherein you stick with your class' starting gear, other than consumables of course. ER seems particularly well suited for it, considering samurai, thief and vagabond all have great shit.

One idea i was toying with is to make "base" class runs as a substitute to a SL1 run.

The concept of starting with nothing and having to get really clever to maximize your low stats with gear and abilities is one of the main attractions to play a SL1 character but once you do it once all the mystery is gone. Picking another class while sticking to its "base" level might make for a bit of an easier experience but would also open up new combinations and possibilities while keeping the basic idea of a SL1 character. This is all the more so since some starting classes are deficient in certain things where as the Wretch is even in everything. So even if the other starting classes are a bit higher in level they also have deficiencies there Wretch doesn't have.
 

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Challenge runs aren't "basically speed runs" but they're generally very ghey. Except randomizers which are a fucking blast.

Depends. SL1 runs are the opposite of speed runs. Any level or increase of power is by its own nature a "short cut" you are taking, which as a consequence speeds up the game.

If we are talking about stuff like playing the whole game without rolling, or doing a no bonfire run etc, yes, that is quite retarded. But SL1 runs don't belong in that category and in fact were quite clearly intended by FromSoft to begin with. It's a legitimate way to play the game that opens up a lot of strategy and makes your resources feel much more valuable.

Finishing the game as SL1 also makes NG+ genuinely viable, as opposed to just some pointless continuation of a character that is essentially done and complete.
 

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SotE is practically begging for a smaller, Ringed City-style follow-up DLC that answers big questions but as mentioned before, probably not happening.

Which are?

From my PoV this lore is so entirely fucked up I don't even know what the questions are, let alone the answers.

From my part i don't want a DLC because there's too much game as it is. There was too much game already even before this DLC. I don't care enough about the lore to desire even MORE of what is already an excessively large game just to have some made up stuff "explained".

Of course, i personally never cared much about the lore. I always found the art direction to be far more interesting than the story in all FromSoft games i've played. The Dancing Lion was a case in point for why i like this company. The part in the cutscene where the lion's head slowly tilts towards you, gazing at you as if it were real was genuinely unsettling. They just have this seriousness about them that compansates for all the animu shit that still ends up in their games because Japanese people can't help themselves in that regard.
 
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You should kill yourself and until your amazon order of rope arrives you should stay in your containment thread. No one cares and your tiny dick being on display shows how pathetic you are.

Look bro, no need to get upset. We can all get along here.

Too much negativity in this thread anyway, even by Codex standards. You guys need to take care of that sand in your vagina.
 
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Lmao, almost managed to burst Rellana, still had to deal with her balls in my face at the end because the last bleed didn't proc in time, but i was still able to brutalize her:

Did you use the Deflecting Hardtear here or just got very good at parrying in general?
 

Hell Swarm

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Challenge runs aren't "basically speed runs" but they're generally very ghey. Except randomizers which are a fucking blast.
Elden Ring is nearly unplayable without a randomizer making upgrades something you find as you play instead of an hour long chore.
Depends. SL1 runs are the opposite of speed runs. Any level or increase of power is by its own nature a "short cut" you are taking, which as a consequence speeds up the game.
No they aren't. There's a bunch of fags on Twitch called Teamhitless. They're doing nohit, SL1, no upgrades, no infusion Dark souls 3 runs. They're interesting because they're having to avoid enemies in novel ways. Sneaking through the snow city using chameleon is really interesting to watch. The boss battles are interesting too showing stuff like being able to poison the deacons by poison misting the tomb not the deacons themselves.
You should kill yourself and until your amazon order of rope arrives you should stay in your containment thread. No one cares and your tiny dick being on display shows how pathetic you are.

Look bro, no need to get upset. We can all get along here.

Too much negativity in this thread anyway, even by Codex standards. You guys need to take care of that sand your vagina.
You're the fag repeatedly looking for my attention when we'd all rather you stayed in your containment thread.
 

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Lmao, almost managed to burst Rellana, still had to deal with her balls in my face at the end because the last bleed didn't proc in time, but i was still able to brutalize her:

Did you use the Deflecting Hardtear here or just got very good at parrying in general?

Just regular parry.

I tried the Deflecting Hardtear but i wasn't feeling it, mostly because there's no sound. One of the most satisfying things about the Sekiro deflection is that bad ass hard "clank" you get. Here you get a muted thud that's barely audible and some sparkles you can barely see. Doesn't feel very satisfying, but perhaps i have to spend some time with it.
 

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You're the fag repeatedly looking for my attention
Oh boy
Have you not noticed he keeps trying to ping me with posts in the thread? He's a faggot.

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Game needed more grafting. Fuck madness, give me a graft upgrade path where I get to kill red phantoms and attach their limbs to myself. If besieged can do it, so can Elden Ring!
 

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No they aren't. There's a bunch of fags on Twitch called Teamhitless. They're doing nohit, SL1, no upgrades, no infusion Dark souls 3 runs. They're interesting because they're having to avoid enemies in novel ways. Sneaking through the snow city using chameleon is really interesting to watch. The boss battles are interesting too showing stuff like being able to poison the deacons by poison misting the tomb not the deacons themselves.

People can play the game any which way they want but i don't find those artificial restrictions to be part of the game, where as SL1 runs are. I thought the distinction had to be made given some people seem to have the impression SL1 runs belong to the kind of stuff you are describing, where as they are an "official" way to play the game, supported conceptionally by the SL1 class you get that allows this.

Because of this, one can also make a criticism of the game based on whether it can make those runs entertaining. Dark Souls 1 and the whole pyro concept was great and likely still my favored, even if it wasn't much of a "challenge" (but then it wasn't intended to be. The pyro hand was actually intended to be a substitute for leveling and ideally just as powerful). Elden Ring is also great with all the amount of options you get at your disposal. By contrast, i found Dark Souls 3 to be rather dour to play as a SL1 character. Never even tried DS2 because the whole soul memory shit just fucked with my brain.
 

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Game needed more grafting. Fuck madness, give me a graft upgrade path where I get to kill red phantoms and attach their limbs to myself. If besieged can do it, so can Elden Ring!
This reminds me, after the DLC it is apparent that Marika for sure loathed Godrick, who used the same quality of his flesh that Hornsent people used to create the More Fucked Up Jars.
 

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