From Software Elden Ring - From Software's new game with writing by GRRM

[HeatEXTEND]

Gotta learn to love the horse, world is simply too large.

 

[Hell Swarm]

world is simply too large.

And empty and boring and soulless.

 

[Odoryuk]

I like the vibe of it. But the horse sometimes feels like "make the game easier and less interesting" cheat option.

It's more like "I don't want to engage with some content" option and it's honestly pretty valid. I skipped a lot of stuff on my first playthrough thanks to Torrent, thinking I will return back later.
Only returned to those places in next playthroughs, lmao. You can't skip actual meaty parts of the game with Torrent, only some enemy camps and other shit (which can also be fun to clear if you're in no hurry)
Horse combat is pitiful and should not be encouraged at all

 

[Hell Swarm]

Only returned to those places in next playthroughs, lmao. You can't skip actual meaty parts of the game with Torrent, only some enemy camps and other shit (which can also be fun to clear if you're in no hurry)

You can skip stormveil with torrent. You can skip the academy. There's plenty of places you can run past and never know had worth while content.

 

[Odoryuk]

Only returned to those places in next playthroughs, lmao. You can't skip actual meaty parts of the game with Torrent, only some enemy camps and other shit (which can also be fun to clear if you're in no hurry)

You can skip stormveil with torrent. You can skip the academy. There's plenty of places you can run past and never know had worth while content.

I guess technically you can, but there should be an intention to do so. Stormveil's passage is pretty well hidden, I found it only after I finished it, and the Academy is just there, you don't need Torrent to skip it. And if you skip both, for some reason, you can't progress past Leindell. While the open world camps and ambushes for both Stormveil and Academy can be easily skipped (plus you can just use a teleporter in Raya Lucaria to get directly to the gates of the Academy, skipping academy town, which itself is a glorified enemy soldier camp)

 

[Hell Swarm]

Only returned to those places in next playthroughs, lmao. You can't skip actual meaty parts of the game with Torrent, only some enemy camps and other shit (which can also be fun to clear if you're in no hurry)

You can skip stormveil with torrent. You can skip the academy. There's plenty of places you can run past and never know had worth while content.

I guess technically you can, but there should be an intention to do so. Stormveil's passage is pretty well hidden, I found it only after I finished it, and the Academy is just there, you don't need Torrent to skip it. And if you skip both, for some reason, you can't progress past Leindell. While the open world camps and ambushes for both Stormveil and Academy can be easily skipped (plus you can just use a teleporter in Raya Lucaria to get directly to the gates of the Academy, skipping academy town, which itself is a glorified enemy soldier camp)

I've known people who missed stormveil on their first place through. It's not that hidden.

You can still progress without doing the academy or stormveil. Radahn and Rykard are both open for unlocking the capital.

 

[Odoryuk]

You can still progress without doing the academy or stormveil. Radahn and Rykard are both open for unlocking the capital.

Damn, the game is more open ended than I thought

 

[abija]

While you can argue it's easy to find the route around Stormveil, not sure how you can miss it.

 

[Lyric Suite]

So is it good?

It's fine. Could be a lot better, could be a lot worse. Unfortunately FROM will never improve as a developer because the entire gaming landscape is filled with the sort of morons that post endlessly in this thread about how every flaw of the game is actually a positive.

More like the other way around.

When you are absolutely committed in trying to find flaws in everything they do legitimate criticisms tend to fall by the wayside.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

world is simply too large.

And empty and boring and soulless.

How many hours did you play the game?

 

[Hell Swarm]

world is simply too large.

And empty and boring and soulless.

How many hours did you play the game?

415 hours but most of that was spent checking wikis so I could stack buffs and instagib bosses. You?

 

[HeatEXTEND]

440, but I like the game

 

[Hell Swarm]

440, but I like the game

What a fucking loser. We all know you only play to 420 hours then stop for the snoop dogg reference.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Don't you mean a Fuhrer reference?

 

[SomeGuyWithAnOpinion]

I gave up playing it for now, the size of this game spooked me a bit.
My impressions overall are mostly positive. I'm just not entirely sure how I feel about the "horse".
I like the vibe of it. But the horse sometimes feels like "make the game easier and less interesting" cheat option.

I guess the solution would be making horse combat more complex. Or maybe making more no-horse areas.
No, I'm not limiting horse on my own, you gave me a powerful tool so I'm going to use it.

Every dungeon is a no horse area.

But generally horse combat sucks. You only have access to a limited subset of attacks, and generally are very limited in what you can do. The only advantage is speed, which you lose if your horse gets hit and you get knocked on your back.

Personally I hate the horse combat and avoid it wherever possible because it's borderline useless.

 

[Odoryuk]

There's not a single bossfight that is better on a horse. I don't even use Torrent to get closer to Fire Giant.
Torrent is strictly my buddy for serene watching at gorgeous Elden Ring vistas

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Good for chasing dragons.

 

[Silverfish]

I don't argue bullshit

No, just that difficulty settings are too much work.

 

[Spike]

I don't argue bullshit

No, just that difficulty settings are too much work.

The difficulty slider is using magic.

 

[abija]

No, just that difficulty settings are too much work.

Still struggling with words I see.
This is the quote you refer to: "Then you argue they should work even more to add difficulty selectors. I mean why not, there's no difference between utopic and slightly more utopic.".
That equates them with more work, which they are. The utopic amount of work is what was mentioned before difficulty settings.

You already demonstrated that you can't grasp basic logic. Why are you trying so hard to display the range of your disabilities?

 

[Hell Swarm]

Japan has the laziest developers ever. Elden Ring is literally worse than resident evil 2. When a character hands another character an item in that game they put their hands together. It shows an exchange. When characters give you items in Elden ring they don't even move. Unless you're fighting them every character is a cardboard cut out. They don't move their mouths when they talk and they never move except for a breathing animation.

It's fucking lazy.

 

[Hell Swarm]

If you summon 2 players for the gank squad and both survive Radahn sudokus before you even get to the boss door? Fucking lol

 

[General Disarray]

Okay you autist been sinking the thread now for some time. Personally I only played the game once on release, and I loved the first 40-60 hours, not the last 40-60h. But after reading this argument I'm forced to go from the "fuck 15 chain combo" camp to Lyric. And I blame Hell Swamp and his utter retardnes of argumentation. I started playing the series on ps3 Demon's Souls and has loved it. But as Lyric shows everything is perfectible beatable.

Final drop was saying whip and short sword were useless. Guy obviously never played DS3, Witch lock carried ( in pvp ) my attunement perfect quality build in pvp and short sword was the get go for int builds who didn't want to waste levels in dex or str, plus it had good scaling. And as other has said, end game is not all game! Early and mid game exist, unless you are an MMO faggot.

I don't understand how you can reach the conclusion that the bosses are hard if you get video proof that they are easily beatable. It must be some sort of delusion from Hell Spawn. I know I cleared the org game with a shit character, dex faith with prophet but that was only because the Dune movies had been on and I know what happens to Paul in the second book. And just to make straight, these are single player role playing games, you should roleplay!

And, as Carto liked to do, I end with saying the open world is totally shit with no incentives and I dropped the game to replay Outward which actually has an open world worth exploiting. Fuck, even Death Stranding does open world better than this piece of shit.

 

[NJClaw]

Japan has the laziest developers ever. Elden Ring is literally worse than resident evil 2. When a character hands another character an item in that game they put their hands together. It shows an exchange. When characters give you items in Elden ring they don't even move. Unless you're fighting them every character is a cardboard cut out. They don't move their mouths when they talk and they never move except for a breathing animation.

It's fucking lazy.

Sir, this is the RPG Codex forum where we play RPG games such as Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, and Planescape: Torment.

 

[Strange Fellow]

But after reading this argument I'm forced to go from the "fuck 15 chain combo" camp to Lyric.

There can be only one conclusion: Hell Swarm is an advertising plant working for Fromsoft.