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I was dealing almost 2k damage with my super sledge, one-shotting LEGENDARY DEATHCLAW MATRIARCHs and whatnot
 
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Fallout 4's weapons are pretty stupid looking in general, but the super sledge is definitely the worst. Seems like they opted to value uniqueness over cool or practical looking weapons, it's even immersion breaking at points, like in Kellogg's head movies, when going to get revenge he whips out that goofy looking assault rifle and the situation turns from tragic to comical. Have you seen that thing? It looks like a big fat nigger dick:
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I actually miss NV's weapons, they were mostly just tweaked real world weapons, but there was variety and at least a few that I thought were cool.
I'd prefer that direction over Zomg Whacky and useless shit like the garbage gun, "YOU HAVEN'T LIVED UNTIL YOU'VE KILLED SOMEBODY WITH A TEDDY BEAR" -Fallout 4's loading screen
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Most automatic weapons in the game are pretty useless, if only because a lot of them share the same ammo type as their semi-automatic counterparts, so by picking them you're actively choosing to use a weapon that wastes more of your ammo and does less damage per bullet than if you were using a semi-automatic equivalent.
 

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It's the Id software influence at play, big chunky gun models are what they think is cool. Basically the same artists who designed all the weapons from Rage and latest wolfenstein instalments worked on this as well:

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Fallout 4's weapons are pretty stupid looking in general, but the super sledge is definitely the worst. Seems like they opted to value uniqueness over cool or practical looking weapons, it's even immersion breaking at points, like in Kellogg's head movies, when going to get revenge he whips out that goofy looking assault rifle and the situation turns from tragic to comical. Have you seen that thing? It looks like a big fat nigger dick:
assault_rifle.png

I actually miss NV's weapons, they were mostly just tweaked real world weapons, but there was variety and at least a few that I thought were cool.
I'd prefer that direction over Zomg Whacky and useless shit like the garbage gun, "YOU HAVEN'T LIVED UNTIL YOU'VE KILLED SOMEBODY WITH A TEDDY BEAR" -Fallout 4's loading screen
just-because-you-are-unique-doesnt-mean-you-are-useful-quote-1.jpg
Just....wh...what the fuck is going on with that assault rifle?...front-heavy design, water cooling barrel, side loader, pitiful stock, short barrel, grip looks awful, it doesn't even LOOK cool, so what rule is this? Rule-of-Shit?
 

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My dream mod for any FO game would let you play as a Raider, looting, killing, raping and doing drugs from start to finish. I think it's time for a Fallout game that lets you choose your own role. It's an RPG after all, isn't it?

The first two Fallouts?
 

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It looks like a weapon that'd be more suited to a steam-punk game or something. The barrel reminds me a lot of the Maxim/Vickers machine gun, which is a weapon more evocative of late nineteenth century British colonialism and WW1 than fifties Americana/Sci-Fi. They should've just made it either some M16/M14 derivative or something.
 

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The assault rifle was bleh, the other weapons are cool though. And at least it doesn't have nonsense like F1/2's bozar, the "full-auto sniper rifle"
 

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The assault rifle was bleh, the other weapons are cool though. And at least it doesn't have nonsense like F1/2's bozar, the "full-auto sniper rifle"
Eh, the combat rifle is bland-looking and the combat shotgun's a slightly less ugly variant from Fallout 3. Most of the decent-looking weapons are either holdovers from older games (i.e. the plasma rifle, laser rifle, 10mm pistol) or are obvious stand-ins for real world guns (the hunting rifle, the 44. revolver, the tommy gun, etc). The gatling laser looks decent, and the gamma gun is kinda ugly, but at least fits the fifties sci-fi kitsh aesthetic. The only only new gun design that actually looks pretty cool in the game is the gauss rifle.
 

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The combat rifle when fully upgraded makes pretty much all the other guns a waste of time. It's per-second damage is unequalled, has superb accuracy and ammo is ridiculously plentiful.
 

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Fallout 4's weapons are pretty stupid looking in general, but the super sledge is definitely the worst. Seems like they opted to value uniqueness over cool or practical looking weapons, it's even immersion breaking at points, like in Kellogg's head movies, when going to get revenge he whips out that goofy looking assault rifle and the situation turns from tragic to comical. Have you seen that thing? It looks like a big fat nigger dick:
assault_rifle.png

I actually miss NV's weapons, they were mostly just tweaked real world weapons, but there was variety and at least a few that I thought were cool.
I'd prefer that direction over Zomg Whacky and useless shit like the garbage gun, "YOU HAVEN'T LIVED UNTIL YOU'VE KILLED SOMEBODY WITH A TEDDY BEAR" -Fallout 4's loading screen
just-because-you-are-unique-doesnt-mean-you-are-useful-quote-1.jpg
Just....wh...what the fuck is going on with that assault rifle?...front-heavy design, water cooling barrel, side loader, pitiful stock, short barrel, grip looks awful, it doesn't even LOOK cool, so what rule is this? Rule-of-Shit?

Gotta love that metal grip. You'd never a pair of gloves to use it after tearing through a few magazines.

Of course, that doesn't come close to the stupid that is that possible water cooled barrel.
 

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All of the rifles are "full-auto sniper rifle" with an auto receiver and scope.
Uh no they're not. Anyway Fallout 2's retardation went way beyond procedural names

The ultimate refinement of the sniper's art, the Bozar is a scoped, accurate, light machine gun with an ammunition capacity of thirty .223/5.56mm rounds.
which is so hilariously nonsensical it might as well have been written by a markov process.
 

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In the steam forums people are starting to complain that all perks only level up to 50 even when Bethesda had "promised" no level caps of any kind, and that you can complete the game in way less than 400 hours. It's cute to watch how they realize Bethesda was lying all along.
 

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Yeah, that "assault rifle" is pretty stupid, but I don't even think it's one of the worst in the game. According to the wiki, it was supposed to be a machine gun, but Bethesda cut the actual assault rifle.
They even made the model, just no texture:

The game doesn't have a single assault rifle. The "combat rifle" is a reskinned combat shotgun, the pipe rifle is a modded pipe pistol, which is dumb, ugly and poorly designed.
With 4 years in development, it's hard to believe they didn't have the time, they just spent resources elsewhere. It's all about promoting the actual rifles they're going to add in the DLCs.
 

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Uh no they're not. Anyway Fallout 2's retardation went way beyond procedural names


which is so hilariously nonsensical it might as well have been written by a markov process.

That literally describes a scoped Assault Rifle, dipshit.

Yeah, that "assault rifle" is pretty stupid, but I don't even think it's one of the worst in the game. According to the wiki, it was supposed to be a machine gun, but Bethesda cut the actual assault rifle.

If you assign the Assault Rifle to one of your favorites, the little favorite icon still has the AK-like design, and isn't shaped like the in-game AR.

The combat rifle when fully upgraded makes pretty much all the other guns a waste of time. It's per-second damage is unequalled, has superb accuracy and ammo is ridiculously plentiful.

The AR is a niche weapon because it's better at hip-firing than the AR, and has much less recoil. It's fun to play with even if it's ugly and stupid as Hell.
 

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I already expressed my feelings towards Fo4 weapons. They are simply stupid. But in this case mods CAN fix it. I wonder why Assault Rifle in this game doesn't resemble AK-112, why combat rifle doesn't look like FN FAL, why Bethesda didn't bring Winchester P94 Turbo instead of that ugly Urban Plasma thing and so on. I hope Millenia or someone else will bring classic weapons to this game. It suprises me how low weapon count is in this game. For first half enemies were dropping only pipe guns (which should be named homemade, they aren't made from pipes).

About Sawyer tweet: I remember destroyed wooden doors in Fo3 with very hard lock. It was ridiculous. You could smash it with a kick because half of those doors have fallen off and rest was barely holding.
 
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Hate to break it to people, but Bethesda's writing is fine, as has been stated by various experienced professional actors who have certainly seen the gamut of writing quality.

Here's the thing: writing is NOT about quests, so stop worrying about dialogue and quests. If you want deep, complex writing in dialogue and character interactions, play Japanese visual novels and adventure games because that is their focus. No Western game can come close, believe me, as I have been comparing products from these markets for decades.

Bethesda's writing is perfectly fine because they write for the environment and world context, not character dialogue. They write better worlds than pretty much any company out there and that is why they have high quality products. Dialogue is unimportant when the world environment tells a story for you

^Look at this donkey

These bethtards are something else, and they've pretty much hijacked the franchise. After Morrowinds release, there was a lot of complaints about the writing quality, as a I was a member of the forum in those days. Now, we got brainfarts like this guy.
 

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