Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

[HoboForEternity]

I honestly don't get the appeal of DLC such as this. What is it that makes Bethesda designer and perhaps some of their customers think that this is good and fits well in the Fallout franchise.

I get it, the franchise is no longer for old bastards such as me who liked Fallout 1, 2, New Vegas, and wanted Van Buren, but are so many of the modern public so intelligence deprived that a poor settlement building expansion is considered a good expansion to a series that was original about Roleplaying and making decisions that could have consequences?

typical casual's/bethesda fan definition of "impact to the gameworld" is you can build a fancy house, or other physical, tangible objects that change the gameworld but have no depth and impact to the lore, background conflict, and everything, then their definition of "freedom" is whether you can walk south, north, east or west first. hence calling new vegas "linear" because you are railroaded to take the long route to vegas.
which not even true. with good sneaking skill, couple of stealth boys. you can evade the horde of deathclaws in quarry junction.

 

[circ]

but are so many of the modern public so intelligence deprived that a poor settlement building expansion is considered a good expansion to a series that was original about Roleplaying and making decisions that could have consequences?

No. Most of the response I've seen has been negative with the odd Beth shill crying that they're entitled. I think they shipped a shitload of product with their shitty season pass ploy.

 

[racofer]

I get it, the franchise is no longer for old bastards such as me who liked Fallout 1, 2, New Vegas, and...

You're late to this train:

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Nope, racofer, was on that train from the start on NMA when I saw the first images of Fallout 3.
I am just trying to figure out now what makes Bethesda's Fallout so good in the eyes of their customers because whatever it is, it does not seem to be clear to me.

No. Most of the response I've seen has been negative with the odd Beth shill crying that they're entitled. I think they shipped a shitload of product with their shitty season pass ploy.

Hmm, I don't think they or we for that matter have a right on anything. Game developers can appeal to our tastes but that is it. We of course have the freedom not to buy a product because it does not meet our expectations or is to our liking, and tell others what is not good about it and why they should not buy it either.

As for the Season pass, well perhaps people should not give companies money in advance for a product that has not even been made yet.

 

[Sigourn]

eggcellent RPG

*curses at Bethesda in Spanish*

 

[Mrfactty]

Looks like FO4 got some basic animation tools. Retarded design decisions like bolts on left-side of right-handed weapons might start getting replaced eventually.

Link?

Here: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16691/?

 

[dextermorgan]

Yesterday a dumb hobo who can't build a house or sweep a floor, today a plastic surgeon! Why can't the player operate himself/herself? It can't be that hard.
Also, why is radiation still a thing if everyone eventually just turns into an immortal being that doesn't need to eat or pee?

Would be hilarious if each treatment resulted in PC being hideously disfigured but this is Bethesda we're talking about so yeah.

 

[Infinitron]

Vault-Tec Workshop released: http://store.steampowered.com/app/480631/

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Where's that from?

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?cat=188

He has some great little asides.


In other news:


After playing through the introduction, my daughter came downstairs and said, “Dad, did you ever notice how there’s a bunch of Mr. Handy Fuel? Like, in your house at the start of the game?”


“Yes”, I said guardedly.


“So that means Codsworth needs fuel, right?”


I nodded knowingly.


“SO HOW IS HE STILL WORKING TWO HUNDRED YEARS LATER?”


I sighed. “He’s not just working, but he’s been HOVERING for two hundred years. Also, he claims he’s spent the whole time taking care of your house. And yet the place is totally trashed and hasn’t felt the touch of a broom in decades.”


Esther went wide-eyed with frustration. “Just… what… are they DOING?”


I’m so proud of her.

 

[pippin]

The explanation offered by Bethesda was that radiation just kept everything working. That was already in BIS lore about Fallout btw.

 

[Beastro]

She turned into a ghoul because the bombs went off before her vault was finished, and has spent the last 200 years waiting to build it.

Man, I love Bethesda grounded, realistic characters.

I have to join Minutemen first to hand over that quest, of course when I did that stupid fucker gave me 3 more quests, one in the same dialogue after I agreed to help with his stupid agenda. If someone tells me this game wasn't half-assed and was properly QA'ed then he is an idiot. I thought Bethesda had some balls in Skyrim to fill my quest journal with stuff I didn't agree to do with. In Fallout 4 they went one step further and give me quests from faction I didn't agree to fucking join.

But, but, but what if the person refused the quest but then later decided they wanted to join his faction and couldn't anymore so they started complaining on the forums!!!!

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

The explanation offered by Bethesda was that radiation just kept everything working. That was already in BIS lore about Fallout btw.

Well then he could have kept my damn house in order. I don't care if the rads wreck wood flooring Codsworth, there's plenty more to do!



Also, keep Marcy from sleeping in my bed.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

She turned into a ghoul because the bombs went off before her vault was finished, and has spent the last 200 years waiting to build it.

Man, I love Bethesda grounded, realistic characters.

Refrigerator Ghoul has got to be related to her.

 

[Beastro]

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?cat=188

My son Issac (14) is not a roleplayer. He plays Fallout 4 because he likes finding legendary items, killing legendary creatures, and collecting suits of power armor. Doesn’t care to mess with mods. (His other two big games are Terraria and Borderlands 2.) He’s only ever made one character (named Issac) who is the default male character. He’s level 68 right now, which I didn’t even know was possible.

Shamus needs to ignore the angel and go Abraham on his kids ass.

My daughter Esther (16) is a roleplayer. She gets getting mods for more customization options. She likes making characters and building houses, like she’s playing a first-person version of the sims where you sometimes need to murder the neighbors.

- version of the Sims? That's all the Sims is good for~

Where's that from?

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?cat=188

He has some great little asides.


In other news:


After playing through the introduction, my daughter came downstairs and said, “Dad, did you ever notice how there’s a bunch of Mr. Handy Fuel? Like, in your house at the start of the game?”


“Yes”, I said guardedly.


“So that means Codsworth needs fuel, right?”


I nodded knowingly.


“SO HOW IS HE STILL WORKING TWO HUNDRED YEARS LATER?”


I sighed. “He’s not just working, but he’s been HOVERING for two hundred years. Also, he claims he’s spent the whole time taking care of your house. And yet the place is totally trashed and hasn’t felt the touch of a broom in decades.”


Esther went wide-eyed with frustration. “Just… what… are they DOING?”


I’m so proud of her.

The girls got her head on straight, the boy needs a lot of work.

 

[Zerginfestor]

I still don't understand the point of making an underground vault after the great War. The entire purpose of the vault was to survive the nuclear apocalypse, and it (somewhat) did that. There's no purpose to hold onto it, as it's entire systems were not meant to last long. So...why make one after 200 years the bombs dropped? Shouldn't those resources be focused on making construction vehicles work and rebuild the city or some shit?...

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

I still don't understand the point of making an underground vault after the great War. The entire purpose of the vault was to survive the nuclear apocalypse, and it (somewhat) did that. There's no purpose to hold onto it, as it's entire systems were not meant to last long. So...why make one after 200 years the bombs dropped? Shouldn't those resources be focused on making construction vehicles work and rebuild the city or some shit?...

Well depends on the Vault, really. Some weren't meant to last more than a few weeks, a few months or even a few years. Some weren't meant to ever be opened and have lasted more or less fine with basic upkeep (again, provided they weren't sabotaged from the get go). Why would people flock to a Vault? Because electricity and purified water are a big deal and in the minds of many they sound like a dream. Oh man no more sleeping on soggy mattresses in a rundown farmstead miles away from anything other than bandits and bloatflies. That door would make a good deterrent to raiders.



Remember, the average scavver has no idea what the vault program was really like. They just know it's been centuries and they're stuck in a Bethesda world where nothing ever seems to get rebuilt and the diner lady let her son make friends with the skeleton laying in the corner.

 

[Reinar]

The Boston inhabitants (PC included) have neither tools or know-how to build such sophisticated structures. Adding vault construction to F4 makes only a little bit more sense than adding it to Skyrim - only because it at least exists in the universe.

 

[typical user]

I have finished Automatron, the final part is you versus Mechanist, a comic-book grotesque character put in post-apo universe.



What's next Todd? Will I fight a Coca-Cola Megazord at the end of Nuka World? How low have this game series fallen...

 

[Sigourn]

The death of Fallout in one image:

 

[Cyberarmy]

Rolling pin that freezes enemies with critical hits is a better example.

 

[HoboForEternity]

They really wants their own borderlands series, they just canmot help it

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

To think that if I killed Todd Howard and Emil Pugalerio I would still go to prison for it.

 

[HoboForEternity]

To think that if I killed Todd Howard and Emil Pugalerio I would still go to prison for it.

No if they dont find out

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

To think that if I killed Todd Howard and Emil Pugalerio I would still go to prison for it.

No if they dont find out

 

[pippin]

I'm still amazed at how ugly the graphics are.
3's graphix were ugly as well, but it was consistently ugly all around, almost like a cartoonish kind of deal. FO4 attempts to be truly realistic and imo that's why the characters and textures look butt ugly.