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Makabb

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It just works
 

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The people who designed the Fallout 4 fetch quests should all have been forced to memorize this flowchart of how a real RPG developer makes quests with great branching.

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Is there a gay romance?
Some Codexian should LP it as Gaider in dominatrix outfit.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Been playing with this for a few hours and it's quite startling how cheap and ugly everything looks and feels. This game is like American cars used to be up until recently - big and boasty on the outside but once you're inside it's all nasty plastics and shoddy fittings, plus it handles like a wardrobe tumbling down a rocky slope.

The dialogue system is a shocker. I refuse to believe it's that mutilated. I must be missing something. Maybe it's gonna branch out into more complexity later on, I keep telling myself.

One thing kept me playing - it's not trivial anymore. A battle with a fucking deathclaw that chased me for ten minutes all over the starting town barely an hour in was refreshingly non Bethesda-like. If that's sign of what's coming in the combat department I might even stick around.
 
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actually dialogues get worse and worse, in stupidity and ignorance, and soon you'll realize how the 4 choices are actually
1) yes
2) maybe (yes)
3) sarcasm (yes)
4) no (yes)

i did this since the very beginning, the tutorial, where they worked exactly like this and never failed to deliver once since then.
so sad...
 
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Metro

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It does prevent you from using helmets that cover your face and effectively lowers your PER by 1 for perk buying purposes since only base stats count.

There were the lucky and cool shades too. (+LUK and +CHA), but those are easier to understand since luck and charisma are made-up factors. And armor raising agility and endurance can be interpreted as it just making you more effective in combat or raising your confidence. I'm even willing to accept the science and repair bonuses that come with doctor jackets and mechanic overalls since it's implied you're really using the tools attached to them, even though a sane designer would just make them separate items.

But a nazi hat that gives a big endurance boost is...strange. Does it fill your character with racist fervor?
So how do you explain glasses that magically enhance your vision beyond normal corrective levels? You're splitting hairs. Bottom line is there was stat boosting clothes in New Vegas, many of which made zero sense from an 'e-larp' perspective. Call a spade a spade.

The perception bonus can easily be explained, the glasses increase your eye sight beyond that of a 'normal' person.

By... magic? Again, this is par for the course on Codex. People are so desperate to split hairs to hold New Vegas on a pedestal. It's certainly better than FO4 but you can't ignore they also had derpy magic clothes. Sure you can set your own definition of 'normal' to fit your argument: 'Normal isn't actually perfect vision, it's... average as defined by me as perfect -10' or however you want to spin it.

Anyway, side point as you can't explain away the shirts that give you +1 END or the other glasses that give you + Luck... But I'm sure you'll come up with some explanation of how glasses can make you lucky.
 
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The dialogue system is a shocker. I refuse to believe it's that mutilated. I must be missing something. Maybe it's gonna branch out into more complexity later on, I keep telling myself.
No, they never get any better, trust me.

Pro-tip though; you can save in the middle of a dialogue, and the speech checks are percentage-based, so it's pretty easy to just quicksave at a speech check and then just save-scum until you pass.
 

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No, they never get any better, trust me.

Pro-tip though; you can save in the middle of a dialogue, and the speech checks are percentage-based, so it's pretty easy to just quicksave at a speech check and then just save-scum until you pass.
And in some cases it even gets worse. I'm shuddering just thinking about how many 'Sarcastic' options I saw during my playthrough.
 

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And in some cases it even gets worse. I'm shuddering just thinking about how many 'Sarcastic' options I saw during my playthrough.
I just never went with sarcastic because of how nebulous it was. Am I giving a sarcastic yes? A sarcastic no? Am I just being obtuse? Just using the word 'sarcastic' tells me absolutely nothing about what I'm actually saying other than the fact that I'm being an utter asshole about whatever it is.
 

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What would this game be best compared to? Kind of borderlands-esque with some minecraft elements to extend the game artificially?
 

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What would this game be best compared to? Kind of borderlands-esque with some minecraft elements to extend the game artificially?
A contorted fetus birthed from Borderlands, Minecraft, and Skyrim.

It's got the bland, boring dungeons from Skyrim, the loot-focus and throw away story of Borderlands, and the lego-building of Minecraft.
 

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A contorted fetus birthed from Borderlands, Minecraft, and Skyrim.

It's got the bland, boring dungeons from Skyrim, the loot-focus and throw away story of Borderlands, and the lego-building of Mniecraft.

Quite an apt comparison.
 

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A contorted fetus birthed from Borderlands, Minecraft, and Skyrim.

It's got the bland, boring dungeons from Skyrim, the loot-focus and throw away story of Borderlands, and the lego-building of Minecraft.

Sounds about right. Is bethesda an entirely shit studio now? I mean jesus christ what were they thinking with this piece of garbage?
 

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Sounds about right. Is bethesda an entirely shit studio now? I mean jesus christ what were they thinking with this piece of garbage?
That the people who like Borderlands, Minecraft, and Skyrim will gobble it up.
And they are right, we do.
 
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So how do you explain glasses that magically enhance your vision beyond normal corrective levels? You're splitting hairs. Bottom line is there was stat boosting clothes in New Vegas, many of which made zero sense from an 'e-larp' perspective. Call a spade a spade.

The stuff I mentioned were in Fallout 1, 2 and 3. "Magic items" always existed and New Vegas isn't different, so I don't feel like it needs to be defended or anything. I was only baffled by a nazi hat that gives you a ton of health, which is really out there. Then again, in this thread I saw freezing flamers and tire irons that become harder by night ( ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ), so maybe it's actually one of the more mundane items around this time.
 

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So how do you explain glasses that magically enhance your vision beyond normal corrective levels? You're splitting hairs. Bottom line is there was stat boosting clothes in New Vegas, many of which made zero sense from an 'e-larp' perspective. Call a spade a spade.
I can see better with my glasses than years back when i didnt need them. Also how can you be retarded enough to want a realistic explanation for an abstraction, are you unable to come up with one? maybe shortsightedness made you rely on other senses that made them stronger. when you use glasses you still have your enhanced sense of heearing or smell or whatever the fuck.
 

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TotalBiscuit's opinion about the game:
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He even mentioned shiitty dialogues.
 

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