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Incline Gothic 3.

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by smaug, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Don't remember lizards much. But wolfs will run to you and try to bite you, while snappers will constantly try to charge you (and 2-hit kill early) - major difference, you need to evade their charge, go out of their way.
     
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  2. Red Panda Sleeping the big sleep Patron

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    Take 5 different enemies and explain what you do different when fighting them.
     
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  3. S0rcererV1ct0r Cipher

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    On the first game, damage spells was more useful.

    Mainly because spells aren't mana efficient on G2.
    Fire BOLT, the most basic offensive spell. On G1 it costs 1 mana and deals 30 damage. On G2, Fire Arrow costs 6 mana and deals 30 damage.
    Fireball - 5 mana and 150 damage(5/mana) VS G2 nad 10 mana/60 damage on G2.
    Rain of fire - 15 mana/ 150 damage(g1) VS 60 mana/300 damage(g2)

    Most offensive spells on G1 has a damage / mana ratio of 30. On G2, of 5.

    http://www.worldofgothic.com/gothic/?go=g1magie
    http://www.worldofgothic.com/gothic2/?go=g2magie

    I never got rain of fire on G1, since i played on swamp camp and Cador only teaches up to circle 4. BUT Fire bolt can be used even at end game to cheese enemies at range with low mana cost. Magic is probably the weakest point of G2. Not only the spells aren't mana effective, but also potions and healing items expensive, with the expansion, costs a lot to raise mana and you can't be a water magician or a Xardas apprentice despite Xardas being able to teach circle 6 on the first game. Why he can't teach me circle 1 on the second game? And why i forgot all circles that i learned on the first game?
     
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  4. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Certainly, here:

    Humanoids: Parry, riposte

    Snappers: avoid charge, attack as it recovers

    Field Raiders: Bait into abandoning defense and attacking, counter when open

    Trolls: stay behind, near legs, keep strafing as the troll rotates, keep hacking at the leg

    Goblins: Try to hit these buggers with quick slashes as they run circles around you and don't be overwhelmed :)
     
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  5. Red Panda Sleeping the big sleep Patron

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    You can do that, but you don't need to.

    Humanoids. You run there and kill them with a few swings. No need to parry at all.

    Snappers can be attacked while they try to bite. You attack they get stunned. Two more hits and it is dead. No real strategy. Only attacking.

    Field raiders same.

    Goblins you at least need to lure a little bit that they come one after another and you have killed enough till the rest of the goblins come.
    Most complicated so far.

    Trolls really are different. You have to avoid the attack.

    There is a little bit of variation, but it isn't like humans, orcs, wolves or field raiders have different move sets that you have to adapt to.
     
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  6. S0rcererV1ct0r Cipher

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    Only one aditional detail about Gothic 4 - ARCANIA.

    The game was initially sold as a Gothic game but was SO dumbed down and pissed so much Gothic fans that they renamed the game. was Jay Wilson's levels of dumb down. They added cooldowns to the RUNE magic(that Xardas supposedly have destroyed), they made the game into a gear playing game where your char's DNA is on the gear, railroaded the entire experience. The magic """progression""" is heavily determined by the deity that you banished from the world in the previous game. In other words, was completely BS.

    Gothic 3 is just a unfinished game. Could be good as G1/G2 if PB had more time and money. G4 - Arcania is completley trash.

     
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  7. smaug Arcane Patron Shitposter

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    I can't load up Gothic 1, it just goes into a glitched screen, any patches I need?
     
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  8. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    Buy it off Gog, you toddler troglodyte. Old games don't work on Steam.
     
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  9. smaug Arcane Patron Shitposter

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    I did, still doesn't work.
     
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  10. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    Then you might be shit out of luck. I last played it on Windows XP I think.
     
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  11. Lord_Potato Arcane

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    Use this guide. Should work on Windows 10 just fine.
     
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  12. thesecret1 Arcane

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    Been a while, but from what I remember, there are some community patches that get the game working on newer systems
     
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  13. badger76 Learned

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    It's a feature.
     
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    Remember to use the community patch that you can find in the beta tab in the game's Steam options if you have G3 on Steam.
     
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  15. Danikas Arcane

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    Lol this is capital city of Myrtana and it looks like glorified villiage with walls. :lol:

    Reminds me of Imperial capital with 30 inhabitants in Oblivion I dont know why game designers keep doing this shit if you cant show at least some illusion of scale in your game dont bother with trying to pass off this shithole as a capital of a kingdom.
     
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  16. Lord_Potato Arcane

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    Community patch + quest pack + content mod updated to the latest version. Still there are some bugs, but not gamebreaking.
     
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  17. thesecret1 Arcane

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    It's kinda fun when played the very first time... just remember to not revolt against orcs until you have all the side quests finished everywhere, otherise they'll become hostile on sight and lock you out a shitload of quests (this design decision was really idiotic...)
     
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  18. Konjad High on potatoes Patron

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    I'm playing the Gothic 3, but tbh I have a hard time keeping my interest... it's so devoid of any interesting content, and both the story and quests are shallow. Dialogues are just a few boring lines each time... I have found Xardas and all we had to say is "i devoured all powah, now im powahful, now go bring me 6 trash items" "ok, will do".

    Any tips? Am I playing it wrong? I bought the game when it came out and I remember I also did not finish it back then as I got bored from running through the empty world and slaying copy-pasted enemies.
     
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  19. Lord_Potato Arcane

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    It's certainly not a storyfag game, true. I have fun clearing the capitol from the orcish horde, but being about halfway through I already feel my interest waning. Propably I shall finish the game, but it's true there is not enough interesting content for the size of the world.
     
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  20. Konjad High on potatoes Patron

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    I've decided to replay Gothic series recently. Gothic 1 & 2 being one of the best RPGs ever released engrossed me once again even if I completed them multiple times over a decade ago. Once again I had so much fun as with few other games. Then it became time for Gothic 3.

    It's even worse than I remember it and I didn't finish it when I bought it on release, nor I am going to finish it now. It's extremely buggy, bland and boring. Even if you use Community Patch 1.75.

    Remember how amazing storytelling and quests were in Gothics? How much attention to details was given? How even simplest tasks had a story you could recall and inscribed memories? Gothic 3 throws it all out the window for copy-pasted quests and locations.

    I do not mean it figuratively. The entire world is filled with many towns. You can traverse through three different kingdoms/areas - from their farms to their capitals. The problem is: They all have the very same quests to get +++ reputation, so you can meet the leader, do a quest for him and get an artifact that you need to collect from another fed-ex quest (from Xardas/Rhobar). ALL quests are extremely simplistic and devoid of story. You meet many people, no matter if these are old friend NPCs, the king or just random people on the street - they all have only very few uninteresting lines that just tell you what to do for their fed-ex quest, and after you complete it you forget about them. There are no stories told. Have you seen the outro of Gothic 2 and you had many questions? Now when you meet Xardas he only says "I devoured the power of dragons! Now bring me 6 artifacts". The same if you meet the king himself: "We lost the war, so now I need 6 artifacts!".

    Instead of faction choice, now you get +++ points in factions by doing the same extremely basic tasks or freeing towns (where you just kill all orcs in a town). Mentioning orcs, I should also add that the terrifying orcs of Gothic 1/2 with their own language and tribal culture were replaced with "intelligent" orcs that are exactly like humans, but bigger and greener/more blue.

    The main story I cannot criticize because it doesn't exist. You are just thrown into the world with copy-pasted everything repeating same quest over and over again. By chance you should gather all the artifacts at some point and bring them somewhere to finish the game, but I had no patience to do so. I endured through a lot of trashy games, but this one is too much. Except decent music it has no positive aspects. There is literally no motive to play it, MMOs are way more varied in quests and elaborate in their story.

    If only at least it was a decent walking simulator. However, all surroundings and environments are also just copy-paste and there is no reason for exploration. This game is the opus magnum of copy-paste. It is the embodiment of repeatability. I have never in my life played a game that is even half as protracting. Even for a fan of original Gothics this game is pure garbage.

    I won't even go through trouble of describing how technically bad this game is and constantly sutters for 1-3 seconds even on a modern NVMe SSD with 4 core CPU and decently powerful GPU.

    I cannot recommend it to anyone. Not for any price, not for any time. Gothic 3 is just terrible game in practically every aspect and playing it feels like an unrewarding chore. It it beyond my grasp how people who made original Gothics could make this junk. It is one of the worst RPGs I have ever played.
     
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  21. Danikas Arcane

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    I bought it at release too and never finished it.
     
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