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Jagged Alliance 3 from Haemimont Games

Strange Fellow

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Gib Jagged Alliance 3: Unfinished Deadly Business Games!
 

deuxhero

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Could be going for a standalone expansion Jagged Alliance 4. They've built a great engine and mechanics that just need a relatively small amount of tweaking so a new campaign with some new mercs would be relatively cheap and quick. The 30th anniversary of JA is in April next year, and that's the time to announce something.
 

Beowulf

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Hopefully not a new Tropico game (even if they're not that bad). The latest thing listed as their release is the DLC for Stranded.
I won't blame you if you don't know what he hell it is, as I heard about it now for the first time, I believe. Also this Stranded thing has more recent patches.
Anyway, who knows, perhaps some developers are indeed working on some kind of a standalone/sequel. It would be a shame if they let all this groundwork they made for JA3 go to waste.
 

Papill0n

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What makes you think otherwise?

Ja2 had no game-ish nonsense to its cover system like covering regenerates 4 AP for the next turn and makes hits grazing shots or how you can be in cover and see around the corner without exposing yourself (but only standing, crouching is totally different) and how using certain attacks would magickally debuff the cover buff. Ja2 was just very logical. You're behind something big enough, you can't be seen. You're behind something hard enough, you won't be hit. The rules for covering were just the same as the rules for all other tactical game aspects. Just like you would expect it. No gamey shit systems tacked on. Ja3 is a mess of shit systems tacked together from industry standard shit. But I still enjoy it greatly after 25 years of Ja2, so there :)
 

raeven

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Ja2 was just very logical. You're behind something big enough, you can't be seen.

Go ahead and use the hotkey to look at what is and isn't in cover for a given merc and tell me if you still feel this way. Half the time the sector next to the giant rock is exposed while an exposed sector two squares away is in cover.

I get why it's like this, it has to do with how the game calculates lines of sight, but it feels completely bonkers as a player.

Also as much as I love JA2, adding or subtracting APs for obscure reasons is kind of a core part of how it works.
 

Abu Antar

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
As long as the studio doesn't shut down. JA3 is good enough to warrant a sequel. The question is if sales were good enough to warrant one.
 

raeven

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Roguey

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Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.
Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim that doesn't look it could have been released in the 90s. JA3 is a bit more faithful, but yeah, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't like it either since it's not indisputably better than JA2.
 

ArchAngel

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I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.
Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.
Nobody with any brains likes BG3

People who prefer their RPGs old school (full customizable party, turn based, emphasis on choices and consequences) like it. It's not for everybody though. That's okay, some people just prefer skyrim.
There is very little "old school" in that game unless you consider Dragon Age 2 "old school" . And do not say TB combat as that has been part of mainstream since 2012 and release of NuXcom.
This is like when libtards talk about saving "our democracy" but they got a whole different definition of what that means.
 
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raeven

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I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.
Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.
Nobody with any brains likes BG3

People who prefer their RPGs old school (full customizable party, turn based, emphasis on choices and consequences) like it. It's not for everybody though. That's okay, some people just prefer skyrim.
There is very little "old school" in that game unless you consider Dragon Age 2 "old school" . And do not say TB combat as that has been part of mainstream since 2012 and release of NuXcom.
This is like when libtards talk about saving "our democracy" but they got a whole different definition of what that means.
Never played any of the dragon age games. Combat was RTwP in origins so I dropped it pretty much right away. Same reason I never got through either of the original baldur's gate games even though I owned the original on release day.

It's fine that you like Skyrim though, no judgement.
 

raeven

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You hate rtwp that much?
Yes.

Or alternatively you could say I love turn based that much.

Even the games with both systems that I've tried (arcanum, post patch kingmaker) don't feel quite right playing in turn based mode and I've been unable to get into them as a result.

As Josh Sawyer recently said, baldur's gate 3 the question of whether turn based is a viable system for modern games to bed, permanently. Don't see any reason for devs to backslide into a system that was never really a great fit for RPGs in the first place going forward now that the market has shown turn based is not the commercial suicide it was presumed to be for decades.
 

raeven

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Roguey

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What does that even mean?
Gay is self-explanatory. The writing is reddit in tone and appeals to redditors. There's a lot of emphasis on talking to NPCs.
 

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