Jagged Alliance 3 from Haemimont Games

[ArchAngel]

I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.

Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.

Nobody with any brains likes BG3

People who prefer their RPGs old school (full customizable party, turn based, emphasis on choices and consequences) like it. It's not for everybody though. That's okay, some people just prefer skyrim.

There is very little "old school" in that game unless you consider Dragon Age 2 "old school" . And do not say TB combat as that has been part of mainstream since 2012 and release of NuXcom.
This is like when libtards talk about saving "our democracy" but they got a whole different definition of what that means.

 

[raeven]

I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.

Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.

Nobody with any brains likes BG3

People who prefer their RPGs old school (full customizable party, turn based, emphasis on choices and consequences) like it. It's not for everybody though. That's okay, some people just prefer skyrim.

There is very little "old school" in that game unless you consider Dragon Age 2 "old school" . And do not say TB combat as that has been part of mainstream since 2012 and release of NuXcom.
This is like when libtards talk about saving "our democracy" but they got a whole different definition of what that means.

Never played any of the dragon age games. Combat was RTwP in origins so I dropped it pretty much right away. Same reason I never got through either of the original baldur's gate games even though I owned the original on release day.

It's fine that you like Skyrim though, no judgement.

 

[anvi]

You hate rtwp that much?

 

[raeven]

You hate rtwp that much?

Yes.

Or alternatively you could say I love turn based that much.

Even the games with both systems that I've tried (arcanum, post patch kingmaker) don't feel quite right playing in turn based mode and I've been unable to get into them as a result.

As Josh Sawyer recently said, baldur's gate 3 the question of whether turn based is a viable system for modern games to bed, permanently. Don't see any reason for devs to backslide into a system that was never really a great fit for RPGs in the first place going forward now that the market has shown turn based is not the commercial suicide it was presumed to be for decades.

 

[Modron]

You hate rtwp that much?

I hate round based real time with pause combat that much yes.

 

[Vic]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

 

[raeven]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

It means the codex is not about traditional methods of making RPGs anymore, it's about bullshit.

 

[Vic]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

It means the codex is not about traditional methods of making RPGs anymore, it's about bullshit.

And what the hell does that mean?

Are you all smoking reefa?

 

[raeven]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

It means the codex is not about traditional methods of making RPGs anymore, it's about bullshit.

And what the hell does that mean?

Are you all smoking reefa?

Lol I'm just saying that people here talk more about whatever woke means than they talk about CRPGs.

 

[Roguey]

What does that even mean?

Gay is self-explanatory. The writing is reddit in tone and appeals to redditors. There's a lot of emphasis on talking to NPCs.

 

[ArchAngel]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

It means the codex is not about traditional methods of making RPGs anymore, it's about bullshit.

And what the hell does that mean?

Are you all smoking reefa?

Lol I'm just saying that people here talk more about whatever woke means than they talk about CRPGs.

Because there is more and more woke shit in our RPGs. You like gay sex, we do not like BG3. That is ok, I am sure your wife's boyfriend agrees with you.

 

[raeven]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

It means the codex is not about traditional methods of making RPGs anymore, it's about bullshit.

And what the hell does that mean?

Are you all smoking reefa?

Lol I'm just saying that people here talk more about whatever woke means than they talk about CRPGs.

Because there is more and more woke shit in our RPGs. You like gay sex, we do not like BG3. That is ok, I am sure your wife's boyfriend agrees with you.

Pretty sure you're right about that

 

[Vic]

Why do you chain quote 6 posts?

 

[anvi]

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim

What does that even mean?

It means the codex is not about traditional methods of making RPGs anymore, it's about bullshit.

And what the hell does that mean?

Are you all smoking reefa?

Lol I'm just saying that people here talk more about whatever woke means than they talk about CRPGs.

Because there is more and more woke shit in our RPGs. You like gay sex, we do not like BG3. That is ok, I am sure your wife's boyfriend agrees with you.

Pretty sure you're right about that

whee

 

[Alienman]

Why do you chain quote 6 posts?

Maybe Larian player?

 

[Silva]

You hate rtwp that much?

Tangent: I also hate rtwp, but recently stumbled with "Alien: Dark Descent" and had a blast. Highly recommend.

 

[raeven]

Why do you chain quote 6 posts?

Idk I just hit reply, I thought

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Why do you chain quote 6 posts?

Idk I just hit reply, I thought

Pyramids are cool.

 

[Zombra]

Why do you chain quote 6 posts?

Idk I just hit reply, I thought

Pyramids are cool.

quote pyramid x 1

 

[Hellraiser]

Why do you chain quote 6 posts?

Idk I just hit reply, I thought

Pyramids are cool.

quote pyramid x 1

There should be a codex default avatar troll on it to symbolize Khor.

 

[Ivan]

I'm struggling a bit to find the fun here. I've made it to the mainland, have my first mine, and am moving east (just landed at the square with the brothel). Stealth killing was a frustrating experience, spent many a reload trying to understand how it works, still don't really get it so I don't rely on it. Are you meant to auto resolve travel encounters, a lot of them feel samey and repetitive. My fav part of the game is nuking enemies with the strong grenades + the C&C has been nice thus far. Still getting used to not having a chance to hit %.

Also, I haven't created my own merc, did I fuck up and are you meant to create as many of your own mercs as possible?

Thanks for any info/tips to getting gud/finding the fun zone.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Stealth killing was a frustrating experience, spent many a reload trying to understand how it works, still don't really get it so I don't rely on it.

As far as I remember, there is a chance for any attack made from stealth to result in a critical hit/stealth kill, which is guaranteed to take down the enemy. If you don't kill the enemy right away, or if another enemy sees the first one being killed, combat will start normally.

If you're talking about melee, you first declare an attack, then move the character into melee range at which point the attack is executed automatically.

Are you meant to auto resolve travel encounters, a lot of them feel samey and repetitive.

I would, unless you're outnumbered or severely injured. If you don't want to fight but also don't want to autoresolve, you can sneak through the sector.

My fav part of the game is nuking enemies with the strong grenades + the C&C has been nice thus far.

This is a highlight. I recommend lots of grenades and heavy weapons. Laying down overwatch with a big fuck-off machine gun is very satisfying. Going heavy on the melee is also a lot of fun, and many of the skills are geared towards melee combat so character building is arguably more interesting for that. I would keep a diverse roster that can handle every weapon type (although SMGs are a bit pathetic). If you double up on anything, make it explosives or melee.

Also, I haven't created my own merc, did I fuck up and are you meant to create as many of your own mercs as possible?

No. You can only create one, and like in JA2 it's entirely optional.

 

[Old One]

Stealth killing was a frustrating experience, spent many a reload trying to understand how it works, still don't really get it so I don't rely on it.

If you're talking about melee, you first declare an attack, then move the character into melee range at which point the attack is executed automatically.

The mechanic for melee stealth kills is tricky until you get used to it, and unless you're using a character who is really, really good at it. Also, the knives you start with are not very good.

Dr.Q is a good character to practice with in the early game. He's got good stealth, and you can use his special martial arts attack aimed at the throat. He might not kill his target outright, but as long as he hits he'll paralyze the target and the target will choke to death before he can move again (usually).

In any case, you need a character with good stealth and melee skills, and especially high dexterity.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Also, the knives you start with are not very good.

Yeah if you're running strength you're better off pummeling them bare handed.

 

[Yosharian]

Has the developer finished patching this game yet or what